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Since Roman Catholic X is fighting over kissing... Seemed like a good time to revive this gem.

@intj68 @RyanHurst171

Does he subscribe to any reformed, Calvinistic confession, Leighton?

@ma1ybe "We should kill the baby before it's born to prevent it from being killed after it's born" Not a hot take, it's a retarded take

It’s literally the title of an article by arguably the most influential Calvinistic pastor still living but we are the ones who just don’t understand Calvinism 🙉🙈….

🎵Jesus sometimes fails🎵 🎵Jesus sometimes fails🎵 🎵Heav'n and earth may pass away🎵 🎵But Jesus sometimes fails🎵

@rootcausesleuth Only believe that God never fails. Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, ‘My counsel will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure’, Isaiah 46:10 lsb

Prove it, theistic determinists!

@Soteriology101 Mr. Flowers, don't you believe that God could have given Adam and Eve incorruptible bodies in the garden, thus making the fall impossible? Similarly to Calvinism, your view entails that God planned for the fall to happen before creation itself.

MERE-CALVINISM Due to the fall, God decreed for all men to be born innately unable to willingly believe the gospel unless they were unconditionally chosen before creation and at some point in their lives irresistibly graced by a miraculous work of God changing their will so that they would certainly believe the gospel. In short, no individual has any meaningful responsibility as to whether or not he goes to heaven or hell. It was a decision made for him before he was even created.

No, the fall was not predetermined by God.

I have some clarifying questions based on your position here. How does God perform the greatest act of self-sacrificial love, if the cross wasn’t planned? Was there a possibility, given his free choice, that Adam wouldn’t have sinned? If Adam didn’t fall, does that mean the best display of God’s glory (which you say is self-sacrificial love) wouldn’t have happened? Without sin upon which to display His justice/righteousness, and sinners upon which to properly display mercy/grace, how exactly can self-sacrificial love be displayed? What exactly is He sacrificing selflessly? If God displaying His glory is done best by self-sacrificial love, then does that mean the cross was planned prior to creation, thus making the entrance of sin into the world necessary and planned?

@rootcausesleuth Even a "dynamically omniscent" God lets molesters have their way with children.

This is how Calvinism sounds to normal people. It’s a horrible stumbling block and erroneous portrayal of the real living God.

@HwsEleutheroi A lot of the responses to this from the Catholics are as follows: "This is false, but I can't explain why."

This is why Rome needs Newman. "It is all development."

@aspin3 @_jonbowlin

It saddens me that Calvinists have no idea or understanding of who the sheep are Jon. Meditate on this verse for a while and reflect on why you deny it and subvert the very foundation of the Gospel of who we were before being saved. Romans 8:9You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. Sheep are followers. The sheep referred to in John 10 are followers of the Father. They trusted and believed the Son because they spoke the same message and had the same voice. While Christ was on earth HE ONLY came for the Lost House of Israel. The apostles never even knew salvation was for the gentiles until after CHRIST ascended which is why He said when He is raised up he will draw all people unto HImself. John is clear about that all the way through. The sheep of another fold were the few Gentiles that followed and feared the Father like the Centurion and the Eunich, etc. Such a notion that we have always been in Christ and His sheep subverts the very foundation of the Gospel of what our position was after the fall/before we are saved vs. what our position is after we are saved. We were enemies of God, children of wrath, not known by God or knowing God before we were saved. If we were always in Christ, always His sheep what are we being saved from? Scripture is CRYSTAL clear: Romans 8:9You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. John 5:45-47: “‘Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father; the one who accuses you is Moses, in whom you have set your hope. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?’” Who was Christ talking to? Those Jews/self-professed followers of God and the Mosaic law who do not believe what Christ is saying or who He is. (So, if the Jews who were pushing back against what Jesus was preaching really were followers of God and students of Moses, then they would have believed Jesus’ message, and recognized what He was saying had already been proclaimed through Moses and Abraham, etc.. Note how Christ refers to the hope they put in Moses referring to the law as well and them not recognizing that Jesus came to fulfill the law.) John 6:45: “‘It is written in the prophets, “And they shall all be taught of God.” Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.’” (Jesus is calling them out on their claim that they know and follow the Father and have been taught by Him. We know all the Jews have been taught by the Father through oral tradition and the Toray but they have not all heard or learned from the Father or else they would believe what Christ says because the Father and Son are one and speak the same message. Those who have heard and learned from the Father come to the Son). I will repeat. All have been taught of God. Not all heard and learned from the Father though. John 7:17: “‘If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself.’” (If you are in right relationship with God the you’ll see the Father in the Son.) John 8:19: “So they were saying to Him, ‘Where is Your Father?’ Jesus answered, ‘You know neither Me nor My Father; if you knew Me, you would know My Father also.’” (Christ very pointedly rebukes them that if they actually knew God the Father they would know the Son but since they do not know the Father that is why they are rejecting Christ. John 8:42: “Jesus said to them, ‘If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me.’” John 8:47: “‘He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are not of God.’” (This is a huge rebuke to the elite of the Jews who believed they were the closest to God and were the teachers and holders of the law of God. HE is saying they truly are not of God because they had not truly heard and learned. They are following their own religiousity they added to God’s word and created more rules and requirements) John 12:44-45: “‘He who believes in Me, does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me. He who sees Me sees the One who sent Me.’” John 14:10: “…‘the Father abiding in Me does His works.’” As Richard Coords summarizes, “In other words, it’s a pretty seamless transition, going from disciples of the Father to disciples of Christ— no unconditional election or Irresistible Grace is required, because the one’s given, drawn and granted by the Father to come to Christ are not the unwilling but the willing.” The reason why everyone who is given, comes to Christ—with perfect consistency—simply echoes what Jesus had already said: If you believed Moses, “you would” believe Me. (John 5:46) These very same ones are those who are referred to as the Sheep. Sheep are followers, we will get into this when we go through chapter 10. When Christ says I have other sheep who I will bring into this fold He was referring to the God fearing Gentiles like the Centurion or Cornelius who believed and followed the Father and would be given to the Son. There were NO enemies of God, children of wrath, those who did not follow the Father but were supposedly elected before the foundation of the world that were spoken of as sheep of the Son. Romans 8:9 states that 9You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.” We see this same message of Christ all the way through chapters 5 to 14. Let’s not forget that while Christ was on the earth He came only for the Lost House of Israel. It is not until Acts 10 that God reveals to the apostles that salvation is for the Gentiles as well. He then stated in John 12:32 that when He is raised up He will draw all men to Himself, both Jew and Gentile.

“I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep.” John 10:14-15 ESV

@DiscussingFilm I need an edit of Mando exploding within seconds of being fired upon.

New clip from ‘THE MANDALORIAN & GROGU’. In theaters on May 22.

@Soteriology101 The only solution would have to be God making deception impossible.

If your God is the kind of God who would decree for some people to HONESTLY feel they are chosen by God for salvation when in reality they are not, then it is literally impossible for you to have assurance that you aren’t one of those chosen by God to be self-deceived. x.com/Lets_Talk_HC/s…

🚨‼️Calvinism does not usually begin by denying the Bible. It begins by redefining the Bible. That is why it is so dangerous. It keeps the words on the page while changing the meaning under the page. “World” does not really mean world. “All” does not really mean all. “Every man” does not really mean every man. “Whosoever” does not really mean whosoever. The system does not erase the verses. It puts them in a cage and then calls the cage “the doctrines of grace.” The issue has never been whether God is sovereign. Of course God is sovereign. The issue is whether Calvin’s version of sovereignty has the right to swallow every plain gospel invitation in the Book. The Bible says God “commandeth all men every where to repent” (Acts 17:30). Calvinism says only some are granted saving repentance. The Bible says Christ tasted “death for every man” (Hebrews 2:9). Calvinism says not every man in any honest gospel sense. That is not exegesis. That is damage control. A Bible believer does not need to apologize for believing the words God chose. If God wanted to say “the elect,” He could have said “the elect.” If God wanted to say “all kinds,” He could have said “all kinds.” If God wanted to say “the world of the secretly chosen,” He could have said it. But He said “whosoever,” and no theologian has authority to stand beside the open door and whisper, “Only if you were secretly chosen before the foundation of the world.” The gospel is not a theological escape room where sinners have to solve Calvin’s system before they can know whether Christ died for them. The gospel is that Christ died for sinners, was buried, and rose again. The call is “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved” (Acts 16:31). The promise is “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Romans 10:13). Let the scholars argue with the words. I am going to believe them.

@Soteriology101 By Church Split?

Gnosticism is still affecting our society today! Watch this!!! youtu.be/dbiSvrHbb-w?si…

@Soteriology101 I don't think Provisionists can say they believe this if the fall of Adam was not a part of God's plan.

Provisionists don’t hate God’s sovereignty, we just know how to define it. soteriology101.com/2017/09/24/sav…

Helldivers 2 is a game where youtubers hyperbolically tell community things are terrible and that shooting weak points, an aspect thats been insisted upon since before the games launch, is not possible or a viable option. We could do with less youtubers is my point.

@AzureusBlaze @OrangeSaturnVI @Vargin_1 @Helldivers_NOW People still get hardlocked trying to play the game, are you sure that people don't know how good they have it right now?

@OrangeSaturnVI @Vargin_1 @Helldivers_NOW Im managing fine. Have always adapted even during the worst time with the games early game whith pc launch. People do not know how good they have it right now

@thechurchsplit Because, there is only 1 Alpha and Omega. 🥁

Calvinists are such betas.