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@LPMisesCaucus @DefiyantlyFree Sniffing your own farts

@DefiyantlyFree You're who he's talking about, and he's right. You want more war for a foreign country. No more war with Iran. Vacate the Middle East. Defund Israel.

Once you see this for it is, makes you rethink everything this person has ever said.

@willchamberlain Another positive is that Chinese tech was obliterated and our tech excelled and was battle tested. I think another positive is that the ruling echelon was genocided (oops). Cons: messaging split republicans and damages allies (Israel), submission leads to long term peace (ie ww2)

The more I think about it, the less disastrous I think this deal is. I still think it's suboptimal, and that we made a number of errors that weakened our negotiating position. The key difference between this deal and the JCPOA is that we just obliterated the bulk of Iranian military capabilities as well as the bulk of the Iranian defense industrial base. When Obama handed pallets of cash to the Iranians in the JCPOA, they were able to put that money to work immediately churning out munitions and funding their proxies. Letting Iran sell its oil now lets them begin the process of reconstituting military capabilities that took decades to build - and they are starting from basically zero, because they have to rebuild their factories first. That's hard. It takes a lot of time. @planefag pointed out that the American strategic dilemma has been all about our shortage of missile interceptors. Well, we have basically infinite money to throw at that problem, and yet it's still a problem, because the production lines don't exist yet. Iran now has that problem but for EVERYTHING. Money alone doesn't solve it - not quickly at least. The IRGC gets time, too; but so do we. After six weeks of strikes, their military was degraded, but they still had two core capabilities that created problems: their ability to harass commercial ships in the Strait, and their ability to use short-range ballistic missiles to hit the Gulf. The Gulf countries have money and motivation too, and the factories that make their stuff weren't blown up. Expect the UAE and Saudi to keep working on new workarounds to be able to avoid the Strait entirely, and to massively upgrade their missile and drone defense capabilities as well. I still think we made some pretty significant errors during the ceasefire that weakened our negotiating position dramatically. When we let Iran get away with not opening the Strait after they had promised to do so (and Aragchi had publicly announced that they would!) that was bad. When we gave up on Project Freedom and didn't respond to the attacks on Gulf oil infrastructure, that was bad too. But the strategic position of America and its allies is stronger now than it was in February vis-a-vis Iran. If you don't think so, think about how much of our senior leadership, ships, planes, personnel, and defense industrial base you would trade for some cash. Not much, IMO.

@shipwreckedcrew Iran immediately refills its coffers and we demobilize. Israel may see a change in govt. republicans split pretty hard. I don’t agree

I don’t really care how much both sides of the political spectrum talk up the importance of the “MOU”. It’s a meaningless document. It’s an “Agreement to Agree” in the future. In reality it is meaningless. It freezes things for 60 days but nothing is really going to stop any different than it has been stopped the past 60 days.

@JackPosobiec Seems like you’re glad to bask in self righteousness just like the liberals, virtue signaling like the worst of the SF crowd. Pathetic

They don’t actually care about the deal They’d oppose any deal They just want more war

@zriboua …and any key resignations

Paying attention to U.S. military assets moves is a better indicator of what is going on than anything else

@chixbutt382974 @TonerousHyus I don’t think there will be total collapse of Iran, more so than what the dictatorship has done already. They killed 40k civilians those people will accept the costs - they’ll also do it themselves with the right support.

@AlexFer11229085 @TonerousHyus What do you think the total collapse of Iran will cause?

The reason why the Iran deal whining isn’t going anywhere is that Dems don’t support harming Iran in any way. So there’s no real opposition. The neocon argument is thin veneer over anger that Trump merely destroyed the country and didn’t genocide them.

@BlueskyLibs @EWErickson @MegynKellyShow Assassination? When was the latest assassination in Iran such as youre describing? What concession could have possibly potentially provoked such a threat?

@EWErickson Nah. The administration has been telling us what was in the deal from day one. It was pretty obvious that the Iranians wanted us to delay publication so they could spin the deal and avoid assassination. JD Vance confirmed that today on the @MegynKellyShow.

Today, you'll easily be able to discern who is carrying water and who is not by whom on TV and radio parrots this. I appreciate my friends in the conservative sphere wanting to be team players, but if the deal were a good deal, it'd be released already, and we wouldn't need multiple days for 5 measly talking points.

@chixbutt382974 @TonerousHyus the subject isnt trumps objective it’s the position of his critics: advocating for regime change is not genocide. if you disagree then explain why don’t just avoid the argument otherwise it’s same as Latinx just a tacit admission you know you’re wrong

@AlexFer11229085 @TonerousHyus Regime change was never Trump’s objective. It was nukes and missiles. They said this a gazillion times.

@AGHamilton29 Im just wondering why didn’t irgc didn’t sign it months ago

Bloomberg has published the MoU. Now we know why they did not want to release the text… There are zero substantive enforceable commitments from the Islamic Republic in this document. bloomberg.com/news/articles/…

@chixbutt382974 @TonerousHyus Strawman. The position is regime change and return of govt to Iranians. Address the actual argument

@AlexFer11229085 @TonerousHyus No, they definitely want the total collapse of Iran and another Iraq/Afghanistan.

@JonahDispatch Already happened

Agree. The test will be when Hezbollah attacks Israel (at Iran’s behest) and Israel responds. Then Iran will scream “Israel is breaking the American ceasefire!” If Trump agrees with Iran in that scenario, and demands Israel show “restraint,” it will prove Trump surrendered to Iran not the other way around.

@GabeGuidarini Completely false spin it however you want. I was 100% pro trump now 100% whoever’s running against Vance

Breaking: The people who didn’t support Trump in the 2024 primary and didn’t support Trump in the 2016 primary now want everyone to know they are “never Vance.”

@ggreenwald are you kidding everyone who has a principled stake is criticizing trump

These fucking Israel First cowards are still scared to criticize Trump, so they're now calling the deal that Trump signed with Iran "the Vance peace deal," as if Vance somehow forced Trump to agree to it.

@JackPosobiec no hes a fucking moron, like the woke reich, and a large portion of the base has always thought this

It's become clear that the pressure campaign against the Trump deal is not only undercutting our President, but also targeting our VP. Many of the loudest voices you see were anti-Trump in the 2024 primary and backed DeSantis as well

@gummibear737 i think he's letting JD own it, same as Marco. Voters will decide in a few years

Even though I've been very critical of the Iran MOU and Trump's entire handling of the Iran War since the ceasefire... I also want to acknowledge that he's dealing with difficult circumstances because, short of boots on the ground, there is little he can do to impose the deal he wants on the Iranian regime But pretending it's an amazing deal and attacking anybody that doesn't agree is not the way to approach it. Also, sending JD Vance out there to sell this deal has been a disaster

The President has been clear from day one: Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. Once again, President Trump's efforts to establish peace have paid off for the American people, despite countless attempts to thwart it by people who hate America and President Trump.

@TVNewsNow Hillbilly Obama is perfect quip thanks

🔥 NEW: Fox’s Ben Domenech: “This President has been the best foreign policy president of my lifetime. I think he has been incredibly bold, used American power to restore our sovereignty, and protect our interests and look out for the American people.” “I think it was a gutsy call for him to go into Iran when he did. He didn’t have to do it but he did and he thought it was the right time. I still think that was the right decision.” “This deal and everything we know about it to the degree it is being spun by this administration: everything about this deal seems bad to me. It all seems like a setback. It doesn’t meet any of the measures the president put out there of his goals for this conflict,” adds @bdomenech to @BretBaier. “At some point the Republican party needs to decide which kind of foreign policy it’s going to have. An American first policy.. or are we going to backslide into being some kind of ‘hillbilly Obama’ kind of GOP? That’s not something that is acceptable to me and it shouldn’t be acceptable to Republicans or any conservative who is interested in the success of America.”

@GaryGol88424403 @denvercunning It tracks with Venezuela being a huge success and Iran being a shit show

Trump neutered Rubio in two ways - refusing to use him as the chief US diplomat while replacing him with three real estate developers plus a 41 year old vice president with no foreign affairs experience. I don't think he realized when he took the job that Trump would behave like this, but this development has made it clear that he doesn't have the president's trust. I think Rubio will resign the day after the midterms whatever the outcome.

MSN "reports" that "A senior official warned Rubio and Hegseth their jobs may be at risk if they keep opposing Trump's Iran deal."

@nodesireforfame @hey_itsmyturn 🥱

@AlexFer11229085 @hey_itsmyturn However before '48 the jews that lived there, were wholeheartedly engaging in terrorism, just like the Palestinians that you so readily condemn for the same. As you brought up '67, some would say that attack on the USS Liberty that killed so many US sailors was also terrorism.

IRGC-Owned Fars: “Fars News Agency reports that the official statement from the Secretariat of the Supreme National Security Council regarding the ceasefire agreement will be released in a few moments. According to this report, Iran had canceled its negotiations and prepared to attack the Zionist regime following the assault on Beirut's Dahiyeh district. However, Iran was ultimately persuaded to refrain from the attack due to eleventh-hour concessions offered by the American president, including the preservation of Lebanon's territorial integrity, Israel's withdrawal from the Lebanese border, and the immediate lifting of the blockade. Additionally, a legal framework for navigation in the Persian Gulf waters is to be established through cooperation between Iran and Oman.”