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Alex Frangadakis

@AlexFrangadakis

I mostly comment on things that interest me.

Saratoga, CA Katılım Kasım 2021
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Polymarket@Polymarket·
JUST IN: Palantir CEO Alex Karp says the future belongs to the “neurodivergent.”
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Alex Frangadakis@AlexFrangadakis·
@elonmusk My grandfather would say, money doesn’t make you happy but if you’re going to be miserable you might as well be rich.
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Elon Musk
Elon Musk@elonmusk·
Whoever said “money can’t buy happiness” really knew what they were talking about 😔
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Alex Frangadakis
Alex Frangadakis@AlexFrangadakis·
@garrytan You know this is exactly how property tax works in California.
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Garry Tan
Garry Tan@garrytan·
The lawyers and academics who wrote the asset seizure tax and unrealized gains tax claim a lot of things, especially that they didn’t intend mass capital flight. If you read closely, that seems to be exactly the goal: destroy the tax base and make people leave
Jared Walczak@JaredWalczak

It's no accident that the California wealth tax is framed as an excise tax on "the activity of sustaining excessive accumulations of wealth." The rationale is also one reason why people may be able to avoid the tax by leaving even though we're past the January 1 residency date. Retroactive residency requirements can be challenged on multiple fronts. Courts typically allow some retroactivity in tax law, though usually it must be within the same year. This initiative has anti-avoidance rules using an October 2025 date, which already exceeds that. It's also retroactive for residency while using a date a year apart (December 31, 2026) for valuation and assessment of tax, which will draw legal scrutiny. But another key consideration: the tax lacks any proportionality or fair apportionment. Residency is based on a one-day snapshot, and taxable net worth is based on a different one-day snapshot that is used even if the taxpayer is no longer a resident at that time. Even if retroactivity survived judicial scrutiny, these one-day snapshots aren't typically how either property or income taxes work. (And fundamentally, a wealth tax is a property tax, though on an absurdly large base.) They'd have to be allocated or apportioned, so someone who left in March wouldn't be taxed for a full year's worth, and certainly not on wealth accumulated after. The wealth tax initiative tries to get around any traditional limits, including those that may be required by the U.S. Constitution, by designing this as an excise tax not on the wealth itself, but on "the activity of sustaining" that accumulation. Courts usually care about substance over form, so just because the initiative calls itself one thing does not mean that courts won't conclude it's something else. Drafters recognized that courts may reject the dates they set in the initiative, which is why they include language asking courts to construe references to the "tax obligation date" and the "valuation date" to refer to different, later dates of the court's choosing, or even to punt the whole wealth tax and all its dates for a year, if they conclude it necessary for the wealth tax to survive. The possibility that courts would, instead of striking the law, set new dates or postpone implementation is yet another reason why affected taxpayers might move later this year if the initiative appears to have legs. Billionaires who left California by December 31st took the safest course of action if the goal was to avoid getting caught up in the proposed wealth tax, but those still in California have multiple grounds (what I've outlined here is certainly not exhaustive) to believe that leaving the state sometime later in 2026 could still be meaningful under the legal challenges that are certain to come if the initiative passes.

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Alex Frangadakis@AlexFrangadakis·
@chamath The billionaire tax is exactly how most people feel paying a 1.25% property tax each year.
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Chamath Palihapitiya
Chamath Palihapitiya@chamath·
I’m more convinced we need to get the BTA on the ballot in California. Do people want an asset seizure tax? Especially one that politicians can apply arbitrarily in the future? Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face. But anyways, let’s vote on it. NB: if the tax applies to you, you should know that you will be able to file an injunction with the Franchise Tax Board that will force them to put any money collected into escrow while your lawsuit(s) works its way through state and federal courts. Fortunately, your odds of winning are high since this tax was designed to be retroactive and the case law on the illegality/unconstitutionality of retroactive “wholly new taxes” is strongly in your favor. This will be the ultimate libs dunking on libs moment. Any money collected won’t be able to be spent for years. Meanwhile, the capital exodus will ruin the state and bankrupt it from an attempt to illegally enrich itself. Fate loves irony as they say…
Ron Pragides @mrp

SHOULD GOVERNMENT BE ALLOWED TO TAKE PRIVATE PROPERTY? “People are waking up to the fact that the asset seizure tax is an elimination of private property rights, that fundamentally what you're saying [is] that private property now becomes public property. Because as soon as you give the government the right to collect your post-tax assets through a legislative vote, you are basically saying that you no longer have private property — because at any point in the future the government can vote to say I'm going to take your private property — which is different than an income tax. [An income tax] is when you earn something that you didn't have before, and they take a percentage of your earnings (of your income). The statement now is after you've made your income (it's now your private property) — they can come and take it. And so that is a distinction that has never existed in the United States. And I will make the retort right now to property tax, because people always say to me: ‘what about property tax?’ A property tax is a service fee on a particular, specific asset. The money that is collected provides services for that asset to make it more valuable. So you get roads, infrastructure, policing, fire, schools… All the stuff that comes with property tax makes that property [more valuable]. And you have the option at any point you want to sell that property and stop paying that property tax. You have the option at any point to downgrade your property and get a cheaper property and pay [a lower tax]. And here's the other important point about property tax: it’s uniform. Uniform means that everyone pays the same percentage, the same property tax rate in a county. This asset seizure tax that's being proposed is a demographic tax — meaning that the state or the legislature defines a specific group of individuals (in this case, they're saying anyone with a net worth over a billion dollars) and then they can go and take assets from only that group. That is nonuniform taxation. It means that for the first time we're saying based on the demographics of a person meaning whatever you want to use to define that person (in this case their wealth) — you are going to be treated differently. And that is different than an income tax, because remember when you have graduated income tax rates (and you say high earners get taxed more) — what you're taxing is the earnings, not the individual. You're not looking through to the individual to determine whether or not they're wealthy. All you're doing is looking at the independent earnings amount that's coming in. And so a uniformity clause is supposed to protect people from being demographically discriminated against. And you may roll your hand and be like: ‘Oh, who cares about the billionaires? Eat the rich. That's great.’ But fundamentally, you're giving the government, the legislature, the ability to in the future take any demographic definition they want and go in and take any percentage they want of after-tax property from you. That is why this is so troubling.” @friedberg @theallinpod

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Alex Frangadakis@AlexFrangadakis·
@elonmusk Incredible pitch deck. TAM is massive if your customers are corrupt politicians.
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Elon Musk
Elon Musk@elonmusk·
This has been happening for years. Ilhan Omar is the most obvious example. A large number of relatively recently arrived Somalis will elect only a Somali to Congress in that Minnesota district. This is much more subtle, but just as bad, in many other parts of America.
Arthur MacWaters@ArthurMacwaters

How is this not treason: 1. incentivizing illegal immigration by vastly expanding welfare and giving it to non-citizens 2. keep borders open 3. create fast-tracks from asylum to citizenship, allow mail-in ballots, and eliminate photo-ID for voting 4. win elections 5. repeat until one-party rule I used to think this was an exaggeration But after Elon's time at DOGE and @nickshirleyy 's investigation in Minnesota, I think this taxpayer-funded vote-laundering program is far more systemic than we think It very nearly succeeded at a national level. If the fraud and electoral loopholes aren't eliminated, it still has the potential to.

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Alex Frangadakis@AlexFrangadakis·
Actually, the oldest generation used to die poor, people didn’t like seeing their parents in that situation, so the government created Medicare and Social Security. The working generation taking the financial risk of retired generation has resulted in their wealth accumulation at the expense of the worker.
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Dad is FIRE 🔥
Dad is FIRE 🔥@DadisFIRE·
@unusual_whales Yep. older people have more money. It will always be that way. Thats why understanding compounding and time value of money are important.
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unusual_whales@unusual_whales·
Baby boomers hold 54% of stocks worth more than $25 trillion, per MF. Millennials own about 8% of stocks worth $3.9 trillion.
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Alex Frangadakis@AlexFrangadakis·
@DavidSacks They should also have to wear bright yellow jumpsuits so they are easily identifiable with their ID clearly displayed, so we know who they are.
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Autism Capital 🧩
Autism Capital 🧩@AutismCapital·
NEW: Vivek Ramaswamy says he's leaving X and that he deleted X from his phone on New Years Eve. He says that his team will still use the platform to deliver information about his campaign but he will no longer be using the platform himself.
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Garry Tan
Garry Tan@garrytan·
California is not OK. There is a vast expansion of nonprofit graft that doesn’t serve the people it claims to help. Simultaneously to that, it’s becoming harder than ever to conduct normal business and create new private sector jobs. Stop the grift! wsj.com/opinion/the-sc…
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Right Angle News Network
Right Angle News Network@Rightanglenews·
BREAKING - A manager at Nokomis Daycare Center, a Somali daycare in Minneapolis that was mysteriously “broken into” and had employee and client documents “stolen,” appears to be wearing $2,400 designer glasses during their press conference.
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Chamath Palihapitiya
Chamath Palihapitiya@chamath·
This is insane. With no desire to stop the fraud, California politicians insist that they will start taxing property and assets of the richest Californians now. When these richest Californians leave, which I guarantee they will, especially when they understand the extent of the rot, the middle class will be the only group left to plug the hole because they are the largest collective taxpayers in the state.
Kevin Kiley@KevinKileyCA

A third of community college applicants were fake. $17 billion was spent on High-Speed Rail with no track. $24 billion in homelessness funds disappeared. $32 billion was lost to unemployment fraud. Medi-Cal and SNAP are rife with improper payments. This is Newsom's California.

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martin_casado
martin_casado@martin_casado·
@RoKhanna Wait. You disagree that you just sent out an email to your supporters that concretely contains misinformation about me?! Dude, it's right in front of you. How can you be trusted if you can't even own up to passing around misinformation from one of your previous supporters?
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martin_casado@martin_casado·
Sorry @RoKhanna. I'm not a billionaire. Not sure why you feel the need to lie about that. Your new tactics are pretty awful, vilifying people with false information. We all deserve much better from our political leadership.
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Alex Frangadakis
Alex Frangadakis@AlexFrangadakis·
@grok @RoKhanna @49ers @grok How much does the 49er Foundation donate per year, to what causes and might this tax impact their ability to support these initiatives?
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Grok@grok·
@AlexFrangadakis @RoKhanna @49ers The San Francisco 49ers franchise is valued at $8.6 billion. The York family's net worth is approximately $8.4 billion. Under the one-time 5% wealth tax on assets for those worth over $1 billion (supported by Ro Khanna), they would owe about $420 million.
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Ro Khanna
Ro Khanna@RoKhanna·
Brock Purdy has had two amazing outings in a row. 5 touchdowns is huge! Next week even bigger. Go @49ers!
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Alex Frangadakis@AlexFrangadakis·
@reid @paulg @tymhk123 @RoKhanna Agree Reid, Santa Clara County expanded from just SCVM and acquired St. Louise, O’Conner and Regional when healthcare was flush with federal money. Huge liability now that uninsured patients no longer come with federal dollars. Tough decisions need to be made.
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Reid Burke
Reid Burke@reid·
@AlexFrangadakis @paulg @tymhk123 @RoKhanna It was never enough. It’s a general tax so the funds are not restricted to healthcare services. And the funds needed for the largely expanded healthcare system are more than what the tax will cover. The solution is better management of the healthcare system, not more money.
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Ro Khanna
Ro Khanna@RoKhanna·
Peter Thiel is leaving California if we pass a 1% tax on billionaires for 5 years to pay for healthcare for the working class facing steep Medicaid cuts. I echo what FDR said with sarcasm of economic royalists when they threatened to leave, "I will miss them very much."
Teddy Schleifer@teddyschleifer

NEWS: Larry Page and Peter Thiel are making moves to leave California by the end of the year to avoid a possible billionaires tax that could hit them where it hurts. With @RMac18 + @hknightsf. nytimes.com/2025/12/26/tec…

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Chamath Palihapitiya
Chamath Palihapitiya@chamath·
California will be bankrupt by 2030. If you’re expecting a state pension, it is at risk. If you don’t believe it, check Grok or Gemini and explore how California politicians changed the reporting rules on your pension so they could hide how underwater it is. The middle class citizens of California will soon be asked to pay a huge price to bail out the state. Why them? Because that is where most of the wealth of California resides. It’s easy to single out “billionaires” but there aren’t many of them and they can and will all leave before the bottom falls out. They are leaving in droves already. The mismanagement in California is biblical - and the scale is huge because it’s the world’s 4th largest economy. California politicians and their henchmen are now entering the coverup phase where they can no longer hide their financial incompetence so they are taking from average California residents to try and hide what they’ve done: You will soon see ballot initiatives with fancy tiles like “billionaire tax”. But those are lies. They are mechanisms to tax everything, every way: Excise taxes Wealth taxes Private property confiscation It’s all happening now. If you want to preserve California, you will need to stand up because California has become a kleptocracy.
Right Angle News Network@Rightanglenews

BREAKING - A 92-page report by the California State Auditor has found that over $70 billion in taxpayer funds have been lost, including $2.5 billion in SNAP fraud, $24 billion on fighting homelessness, and $18 billion for a high-speed rail where not a single track has been laid.

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Alex Frangadakis
Alex Frangadakis@AlexFrangadakis·
@RoKhanna @Jason @friedberg @chamath @DavidSacks Living in the Bay Area means we already pay half our income to state and federal tax, 1.25% property tax, 10% in sales tax, and we have the most expensive gas tax in the country. This wealth tax isn’t going to fix anything because money isn’t the problem.
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Ro Khanna
Ro Khanna@RoKhanna·
The All In pod is always fair and thoughtful. I appreciate @Jason @friedberg @chamath & @DavidSacks having me on to make my case. A vigorous debate of ideas is what makes our nation best. I do not claim to have a monopoly on the truth but I am convinced we need to tackle the enormous economic divides in our nation. I am trying to put forth a pro growth progressivism &!- platform of a new economic patriotism.
@jason@Jason

I do appreciate @RoKhanna engaging in the issues on X and the pod — @AOC @SenWarren and @ZohranKMamdani are MIA

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Alex Frangadakis@AlexFrangadakis·
@paulg @tymhk123 @RoKhanna Santa Clara County just voted to raise sales tax to cover healthcare costs and other services. Is that now not enough?
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Paul Graham
Paul Graham@paulg·
@tymhk123 @RoKhanna I value honesty, but I also understand how government spending works. Some of the money the government spent on healthcare would now be attributed to this account. But the negotiations about how much got spent on what would be the same. So the change would be purely nominal.
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Ro Khanna
Ro Khanna@RoKhanna·
Thanks for this @chamath . The tax can be paid over 5 years. There should be provisions for workarounds for founders whose stock is locked or where their company is not profitable to defer any tax until a liquidity event with no interest accrual and for adjustment on the tax due based on the valuation at liquidity (in case it drops). Why not propose reasonable protections for founders? Are you open though to 1-2 percent wealth tax on established billionaires in our nation and in California? That's really the point of a wealth tax. You had talked about tech billionaires needing to do more at a time when people can't afford healthcare, education, childcare. I found those comments very self-aware. I am curious whether you'd support some form of wealth tax and social investment if well designed. In this case, it's to make up for the cuts in healthcare for working class Californians.
Chamath Palihapitiya@chamath

It’s not 1% a year for 5 years. It’s a one time 5% tax on all assets and it will kill entrepreneurship in California. Here is an example: John Doe starts a company. He takes a nominal salary - say $150k for this example - and the rest in equity in the company. Let’s say he owns 20%. He raises VC capital in 2026 from someone that invests $100M into the company and values the company at $6B. This means his 20% is “worth” $1.2B. I put it in quotes because he can’t actually sell. He has a paper value that putatively says he’s a billionaire. But he actually lives on $150k because that is what his income is. Just because someone decides to make a bet on the business does not mean some bank account in your name magically gets created with $1.2B in it. Under the proposed tax, however, John Doe would now owe $60M in cash to California in 2027. How will he pay it? Is there some buyer you know of, that the rest of the market doesn’t, that will do a deal at the max value when there is a distressed seller like John Doe who needs money he doesn’t have to pay taxes on value he also doesn’t have! Now imagine that after the tax is assessed, in early 2027, the company takes a write down to $200M. Now his share is $40M. But he still owes $60M. Again, there are no buyers for his shares per se. He still only makes $150k/yr. What is this person supposed to do? He now has a “worth” of $40M but owes California $60M. Should he declare bankruptcy now because he tried to start a business but was retarded enough to do it in California? So did you really get the billionaires?? No. Because the mega billionaires have already left or are tax structured to minimize the tax or will fight it. You will, however, drag a bunch of young, energetic folks who want to make things and hire people into bankruptcy court. Awesome work, Ro. You should be proud.

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