Austin Farley
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Austin Farley
@AustinFarle
I share facts about wildlife conservation, food, and travel.
Katılım Aralık 2012
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The Mormons are all crashing out that someone disagreed with them calling it “hate” or claiming they are being “targeted”.
Dude, you guys will say you “believe in Jesus” knowing that what you are saying isn’t received the way you mean it.
It’s a lie. You evangelize with intentional lies. And engage in bad faith.
Then throw a hissy fit when someone presents some good faith arguments.
Take a chill pill.
Repent, and confess the sovereignty of the trinity.
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@seekingtruth325 Says who? You?
Fixing mistakes made by fallible scribes and updating understanding and replacing it with a more fitting word as revelation progresses are what one would expect from fallible men who are working with God.
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@AustinFarle 'Fallible' doesn't apply to 'deliberate'
changes. That's not fallibility. Yes, humans are fallible. But to change things knowingly and with intention isn't fallible.
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@AustinFarle @LutheranAnswers Battle of the memes, eh?
😜
Highly intellectual 🧐
Highly Devoted to the study of
“Theos logos” you are!
Logos = Word
Theos = God
A word about God
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Mormons are amazingly dishonest about their faith.
They say that the papyri Joseph Smith translated was destroyed in the Chicago Fire, when in fact a large portion of it was recovered undamaged.
Enough of it was recovered, in fact, for us to determine two very specific things about it:
1) It was an ancient copy of an egyptian scroll we have other copies of.
2) We know that it was a funeral scroll, and that Smith's translation was bogus - such to the point that even the LDS church now says that Smith didn't literally translate the document, but offered a "spiritual translation."
Ranteumptom@JayBird1782
@LutheranAnswers Kind of hard to have something burned in the Chicago fire.
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@garyandglendah1 @LutheranAnswers Cool and irrelevant to my post.
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@tattered_bible @AggieFiringLine Like I said, if you want to base your beliefs on confirmation bias, that's fine. Just don't use it to justify religious bigotry.
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@AustinFarle @AggieFiringLine Why would I doubt what I now have evidence of and am convinced of? You make no sense.
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There is no archaeological evidence for the Book of Mormon.
Luke Hanson@LukeFHan
It's wild that Matt Fradd was in the room for Jacob Hansen's Boom of Mormon debate and still says "there is zero archeological evidence for the Book of Mormon" in this article. FYI @RealMattFradd: "Evidence I don't accept" ≠ "No evidence"
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@tattered_bible @AggieFiringLine Which again, is special pleading since you refuse to apply the same standard to your own beliefs.
If your beliefs are predicated on presuppositions, confirmation bias, and special pleading, that's fine. Live your life how you want.
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No. I’ve accepted a conclusion and I’m discounting alternative conclusions unless they are backed by evidence. Christianity isn’t come to by evidence first. Evidence is a reward for those who believe Christianity. But now that I believe and have the evidence anything without similar evidence or better evidence is discounted.
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@tattered_bible @AggieFiringLine You said you accepted the Bible without evidence. Demanding evidence for the Book of Mormon is special pleading on behalf of the bible.
What you are now describing is called confirmation bias, where you already accept a conclusion, and try to find things that will fit it.
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No. It isn’t. I got the evidence. I didn’t initially believe because of the evidence. But I now have evidence. If you change your beliefs flippantly over the kind of arguments presented here then you aren’t sincere in your beliefs. Someone who sincerely believes what they believe requires actual evidence to change those beliefs. The kinds of arguments presented here wouldn’t shake such a person off of their beliefs.
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@tattered_bible @AggieFiringLine Applying a different standard to another set of beliefs that you won't apply to your own beliefs is special pleading.
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@AustinFarle @AggieFiringLine No. If something contradicts what I believe then it needs extraordinary evidence in order for me to jettison my current beliefs. This isn’t unreasonable. Otherwise a Muslim could make the same argument for Islam that you are making for Mormonism.
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@tattered_bible @AggieFiringLine That is called special pleading
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@AggieFiringLine I’m not arguing like an atheist. I accepted the Bible without evidence. The Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible so it needs evidence first.
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What if we had another document he translated?
Like a papyri or something?
Bruce North@BruceNorth46058
If we had the golden plates in a museum, and every expert in the world agreed Joseph translated the Book of Mormon correctly, would that "prove" The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is true? Would everyone be compelled to join the Church?
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@3ringTruthBack @Rultpwr @dds_dave @Salt_n_Smoke You showed me a random roman burial tomb as "evidence" of the resurrection, I simply demonstrated how silly that was. Of course that flew over your head.
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@AustinFarle @Rultpwr @dds_dave @Salt_n_Smoke Archaeology and history tells us it was near Jerusalem. At least you didn’t think it was in Missouri! 😂
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These are how my engagements w many LDS go. Not because I’m rude or disrespectful. Because I ask questions that people can’t answer.
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@seekingtruth325 It's not an excuse, it is a basic fact of reality. All humans are fallible, and everything they produce whether it be the Bible, the Book of Mormon, or a scientific textbook, will be fallible.
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@AustinFarle This 'fallible' excuse is getting old. These words were changed over multiple years. The most at over 10,000 was done in 1920. JS said the book was the 'most correct book' when he published it. So God changes his mind? Changing words causes confusion.
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@TrevorSAndersen @LutheranAnswers It's because I follow the advice of Jesus Christ in Matthew 7:6 when it comes to people who are obviously acting in bad faith, such as yourself.
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@AustinFarle @LutheranAnswers It’s funny how Mormons never answer with answers. It always memes, insults and deflection. I’m praying the truth gets through to you
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@8qh5mvxnxh That isn't a baby elephant, that is a fully grown cow elephant.
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@TribeRuffner @varen_barovar @GuyInco15542744 Were the Jews in a state of apostasy when Christ came the first time?
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Incorrect.
Your premise to begin with is incorrect and contradicts scripture.
The apostasy described in the NT is the falling away from the church.
The church remains, as promised by Christ and the OT prophesy I gave you in scripture.
His Church remains, has remained since He came, and will remain until He comes again, per scripture
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There’s a ton of different ways to debunk mormonism as false; however, this is the best way imo.
Why?
Because all of mormonism hinges on the claim that the church itself apostatized and needed to be restored; however, scripture says that won’t happen.
The Bible does say that before the end times that people will apostatize in large numbers, but it doesn’t say that the church will disappear - the church will remain.
And of course it will - that’s what the Bible says. It remains and will always remain, even if people leave it.
The entire premise for Mormonism is false. The church doesn’t need “restored” because the church has always existed since Christ established it.
Case closed. Don’t even waste your time on Kolob, the bom, book of Abraham, etc.
Thats all a side show.
Christ established his church.
It’s never gone away and will endure until He comes again.
Just as God promised.
God bless.
JustPassingThrough@TribeRuffner
What do you guys think? Does the Bible say something other than what this scripture says? I'll take God's word over Joseph Smith's.
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@AustinFarle @Sola_GPT @LutheranAnswers Mormons: We’re right because there’s no evidence left to prove us wrong,
Prove Exodus, We don’t need proof of an advanced American Jewish society, Lets compare 40 years in the wilderness to a 2000 year old Iron Age civilization
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@AustinFarle @LutheranAnswers Gotta deflect so your shelf doesn’t get overloaded
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@Sola_GPT @LutheranAnswers But it does match the pictures that Joseph copied. Mormon cope
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