TBH

Why the change? The change of words is interesting. 1830 BOM verses modern BOM.

@jameslsimmons JS said it was the 'most correct book' so why would it need more corrections after the fact? The BOM even states the doctrine in the BOM is the lords doctrine. Anything "more or less', is not of God- per BOM.

It's telling they won't answer the question. Very few changes have been made that even have real change context after taking away grammar fixes and obvious context errors. The real concern though; Are the changes made that really do change context done by revelation and confirmed by the Spirit? If so, we can rejoice we're not falling for the same transcribal fallacies that have happened to other written texts, and that we have living inspired prophets today to guide us in the correct path like in ancient times.

Why are there over 28,000 changes to the Book of Mormon? The largest amount made in 1920- 10,012! These aren't just punctuation or grammar changes ? Entire sentences missing, words changed, words added... highly sus, imo! Compare the 1830 to current LDS book.

@jameslsimmons Well, the fact there are some changes, replacing words that changes context, may seem small to some. But for others it has impact. To each his own I guess...

@seekingtruth325 The last time I saw a post like this, I asked the guy what the biggest change was made. He was full of words without an answer.

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@DdsRockdent Ok- fair enough. Explain why this change? Adding 'not' changes context of paragraph/verse.

@seekingtruth325 It would be a more thought-provoking comment if you simply subtract out the grammatical errors and focus on the ones that might matter in your argument. By using 28,000, then admitting most are grammatical in nature, you weaken your own argument. Do the honest math first.

@MCrobison Currently searching the BOM at this time. I'm sure the Bible has its issues too.

@seekingtruth325 And you don’t say this about all the changes and inconsistencies in the Bible?

@AustinFarle 'Fallible' doesn't apply to 'deliberate' changes. That's not fallibility. Yes, humans are fallible. But to change things knowingly and with intention isn't fallible.

@seekingtruth325 It's not an excuse, it is a basic fact of reality. All humans are fallible, and everything they produce whether it be the Bible, the Book of Mormon, or a scientific textbook, will be fallible.

@w283790251 @Eddie1968K There are a few upside down letters, Which would make sense. But word changes that seem to be intentional? ...I don't think are mistakes.

@seekingtruth325 @Eddie1968K You realize the printer took hand written copies and had to layout the type by hand. Doesn't it make sense mistakes will get made in that process?

@crapolavich Foundation is the Devil... verses 'founder is the devil'? Imo, those two statements have entirely different meanings.

@seekingtruth325 Come up with something new. This is 1980s anti-Mormon stuff. People have ChatGPT and Claude, they won't fall for this garbage anymore. Show me a change that actually alters doctrine.

@crapolavich Foundation is completely different than the change to formation. This alters doctrine- it changes the Lord's words.

@crapolavich Changed to "who had not fallen" where 1830 says "which had fallen"...

@Eddie1968K Misreading? Changing a word from woundedness to blindness is not a misread. Or foundation to formation. Changing almost every 'which ' to who... are not misreads. They are deliberate changes. Other changes took context of the paragraph in another direction.

I’m not in the office so I cannot examine Skousen’s work to confirm if that specific change was due to the printer misreading the scribe’s handwriting or falls in another category. Either way, the dictation in a single pass of a 269,318-word manuscript with such complexity in such a compressed time is without parallel.

@NoDisassemble5 Good point- so is the 'rock' still being used to change the words? ( if I understand your question right)

@seekingtruth325 and how can there be so many changes if the characters were given via the rock in the hat? According to the witnesses, a character would appear on the rock to Joseph and would only disappear once written down correctly

@AustinFarle This 'fallible' excuse is getting old. These words were changed over multiple years. The most at over 10,000 was done in 1920. JS said the book was the 'most correct book' when he published it. So God changes his mind? Changing words causes confusion.

@seekingtruth325 Because humans are fallible, and the role of prophets is to correct where and when they can in order to draw people nearer to God.

@Eddie1968K I disagree- when you look at the Hebrew meaning of woundedness, it ties into what the words are teaching/saying. The change in words turns the book into 'past' tense, history. But reading them as they are speaks to our day- a warning to us.

@seekingtruth325 Those are simple transcription errors. All new scribes make such mistakes when writing down dictation.

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@seekingtruth325 Now do the Bible

@CA_Blue_Print Why would it need to be made more 'readable' when it is the word of God? Why change His words he dictated to JS? It's clear The 'Plain and precious ' things have been 'removed'. It's sad to see.

@seekingtruth325 Editors. Why is all the effort today being made to bring it back to exactly as Joseph first dictated it? Editors tried to make it more readable to modern audiences, but they lost too much of the Hebraic nature of the original text. We are working very hard to bring it back.

@Eddie1968K Explain : "awful woundedness" was changed to "awful blindness"? Page 31 in 1830. "Foundation" was changed to 'formation' ? Modern book is missing words circled in blue... many many more like this.

Incorrect - not a single sentence is added or removed, and not a single paragraph is resequenced. There is actually a six-volume set that examines every change in ALL editions of the Book of Mormon. I happen to have not just a copy of the 1830 edition, but also a copy of the surviving 28% of the Original Manuscript and the entire Printer's Manuscript (I can literally touch them with my left hand from my desk). The actual text is remarkably coherent for dictated text, and has no parallel in history. byustudies.byu.edu/product/book-o…

Mormon 8:33... sounds like the 28,000 + changes right here.