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Blocking out "non standard" transactions in general just harms potential innovation

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> 1) I think mempool filters different from fee-rate are long-term incentive incompatible and can't be relied upon or enforced consistently in adversarial scenarios. In this, me and you mostly agree. Yeah, strong agreement there. > and it was not at all urgent Meh. As long as we are moving in the correct long term direction. I have a low time preference And with respect to the min relay fee, it actaully materially degraded the performance of several features of the node > nor fair to change Core's defaults to "own them" in this debate: LibreRelay was more then enough to prove the point If I thought that the Core devs were all blue haired trans lefty woke people, I would be delighted with the fact they lost control over relay policy. > especially in the sloppy way it has been done. This is what I really do not care about. I agree with the change on a technical level, no matter how sloppy it was. If the developers had a special arrangement with a doctor doing a medical gender transition surgery, such that they would stop the medical procedure half the way through, and press the merge button to increase the OP_Return relay default, then continue with the medical procedure, who the fuck cares? The code should be judged on merit. So its not that we disagree on if it was done in a sloppy way or not. I simply do not care if it was sloppy. So that is an example in why I say I kind of agree with you on everything. We either agree or you have some view that I do not care about, rather than disagreeing. > I side with many cultural and procedural criticism to Core's repo management in recent years, mostly aligning with Atak's and Hodlonaut's criticism. In this, me and you mostly disagree. As for Hodlonaut, to me he seems right in theory, in that any generic group of people is likely to develop the weaknesses he claims exist in Core. It is just that I think he didn't correctly identify which specific social groups had the power and influence and in which specific ways the problems manifested in the code. For example I watched Bitcoin quite closely when Newbery was active. I am pretty sure he wasnt a highly influential person pulling strings behind the scenes to get things done. And if he was, what specfic technical weakness did that result in? Maybe there were highly influential people explioting biases and other social dynamics to have influence behind the scenes, as one may expect in any group, I just do not think it was Newbery. As for Atack, I have some sympathy with his views. I think its fine to critisize the culture and procedures of Bitcoin Core, and to say they have bad governance practises. But, as I tried to explain to Atack, it needs to be explained and linked more closely to a negative technical impact these issues have on noderunners. I feel much of the critisim does not lead anyway. i.e. there is a claim of "bad governance", without explaining how bad governance leads to an actual problem, for expample something like inefficent signature validation, nodes crashing etc. Then someone like Atack could come forward with proposals and ideas on how to fix the specific problems that result from the bad governance, rather than the bad governance itself. That is what I would like to see from Atack anyway. 4) I find, and I've always found, the whole CSAM "emergency" completely crazy, the whole idea of using consensus changes to either fight specific kinds of spam or to enforce cultural/governance shifts incredibly reckless, the whole "we have 15% of nodes so we have full consensus" circus totally insane, the whole "doing something sloppy is always better than doing nothing" pseudo-philosophy dangerously retarded. In this, me and you mostly agree. Totally agree
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Giacomo Loathsome Bitcoin Destroyer Zucco
That's not at all "odd". 1) I think mempool filters different from fee-rate are long-term incentive incompatible and can't be relied upon or enforced consistently in adversarial scenarios. In this, me and you mostly agree. 2) I think a few experienced protocol devs and many tool devs and power-users disagree with me on 1, and it was not at all urgent nor fair to change Core's defaults to "own them" in this debate: LibreRelay was more then enough to prove the point, especially in the sloppy way it has been done. In this, me and you mostly disagree. 3) Even beside 2, I side with many cultural and procedural criticism to Core's repo management in recent years, mostly aligning with Atak's and Hodlonaut's criticism. In this, me and you mostly disagree. 4) I find, and I've always found, the whole CSAM "emergency" completely crazy, the whole idea of using consensus changes to either fight specific kinds of spam or to enforce cultural/governance shifts incredibly reckless, the whole "we have 15% of nodes so we have full consensus" circus totally insane, the whole "doing something sloppy is always better than doing nothing" pseudo-philosophy dangerously retarded. In this, me and you mostly agree. There's nothing in 2 and 3 which contradicts 1 or 4. Everybody intentionally misrepresenting my position on 4 just to try to discredit me when I argue 2 or 3 is in blatant bad faith. I think that's Adam's intention.
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Giacomo Loathsome Bitcoin Destroyer Zucco
For anyone interested about the truth: Adam Back is absolutely, overtly and veritably lying about me *ever* supporting BIP110, or even being "a fence sitter" about it. I have always strongly, clearly and unequivocally opposed any similar fork proposal since the very earliest suggestions. I have always been, and remain, consistently opposed to: - using consensus rules to tackle specific types of onchain spam, - defensively addressing any kind of "illegal data" moral panic in any possible way (mempool policies included), - enforcing any controversial consensus change (including the ones I agree with, unlike this one) without clear full-ecosystem agreement. It's a bit unfortunate that a very influential voice in the industry is lying about me, since I have a smaller reach to debunk him. Maybe some of you can help me by spreading the correction. Thanks.
Adam Back@adam3us

@giacomozucco @ocean_mining the overlap of that company with the ring-leaders is near 100%, so i'm poking at that. obviously. i assume you are the token "vocal anti 110 insiders" they misleadingly claim in their later post. (and you've been a bit of a fence sitter on and off, though currently against, net)

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BitMEX Research@BitMEX_Jon·
> I'd not support OCEAN changing DATUM to be able to prevent rogue miners to attack Bitcoin with spammy blocks Right. You don't support a change to prevent a spam attack. That is fine, you support inaction. But this is taking action to specifically enable a specific attack. What if miners couldn't use OCEAN and DATUM to produce hard to verify poisonous block spam attacks (I have no idea if this is true or not). Would you support a change in DATUM to specially enable that spam attack? Surely not.
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Giacomo Loathsome Bitcoin Destroyer Zucco
Spam is also a clear attack on Bitcoin, yet I'd not support OCEAN changing DATUM to be able to prevent rogue miners to attack Bitcoin with spammy blocks. The main point of the pool is to reduce its central role in favor of local block templates, for good and bad. Same for consensus changes.
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OCEAN@ocean_mining·
Today we are announcing that OCEAN’s backend will be upgraded to follow multiple chains independently in the event of a BIP 110 chain split. If a split occurs, DATUM miners automatically continue on whichever chain their own node enforces, and OCEAN will credit rewards to a split share log for that chain, subject to the chain’s continued operation and to our Terms of Service. OCEAN will effectively operate as two pools from the split point. Updated Terms of Service addressing split handling will be published before block 961632. We are building all this so our miners can receive rewards based on their own actions without adversely affecting other OCEAN miners.
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BitMEX Research@BitMEX_Jon·
@mattkratter @Bitertarian Pretty sure it isn't about vaccines. See the topic of pregnancy How do you explain this one then?
Steve@steverabinow

@Pakkaustukku @stephanlivera <luke-jr> the only thing stopping you from agreeing that 'the crime of a 72-yr-old having sex with a female child is worse than two old men going at it' is your emotions, which are basically worthless and irrational.

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Matthew R. Kratter #BIP-110
If you want to make Andy Back really mad, ask him how much money he has lost with his degen trading over the past few years. I did, and now he can't stop tweeting about me. There's probably some signal there
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BitMEX Research@BitMEX_Jon·
@giacomozucco seems to have occupied quite an odd position at the start of this. He seemed to be on the "filter side", yet when questioned, he said he agreed that "incentive incompatible relay filters are economically unsustainable" & as a staunch supporter of this claim, I couldn't find any technical disagreement with him. So maybe he had some "cultural sympathies" with the filter/knots people, while recognising they are technically wrong about everything, but not necessarily always willing to say that?
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Mr.Hodldamus@MrHodl·
@giacomozucco .... You didn't reach full retardation but you went half retard with fighting spam with policy.
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BitMEX Research@BitMEX_Jon·
@giacomozucco @ocean_mining Running a multicoin mining pool is fine, however businesses that help facilitate attacks on Bitcoin should not be encouraged by Bitcoin supporters
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Giacomo Loathsome Bitcoin Destroyer Zucco
Very elegant solution, fully consistent with OCEAN's vision: miners running their own nodes are adult in charge of their block templates, not blind pool-dependant hashers, and the pool is just a service to reduce variance, not a decision maker calling the shots. This doesn't mean that should miners decide Bitcoin rules: as clarified with the NYA failure at the end for the "block size wars", miners just follow Bitcoin's economy. But mining pools should serve miners first, who should in turn serve the economy. This could even be a good way to deal with other controversial consensus changes in the future.
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BitMEX Research@BitMEX_Jon·
@Bitcoin_Lawyer > some of the industry's strongest critics of BIP 110 work at OCEAN or serve on our Board Are the views of these critics technically valid? If so, BIP-110 is an attack on Bitcoin.
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BitMEX Research@BitMEX_Jon·
@udiWertheimer @PakoVM @DavidFBailey > i’d say it provided little to no long term value to bitcoin holders 1. It has like 98% adoption 2. It solved the quadratic scaling of sighash operations bug 3. Fixed third party transaction malleability 4. Helped mitigate UTXO bloat, by increasing the relative costs of UTXOs
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Udi Wertheimer
Udi Wertheimer@udiWertheimer·
@PakoVM @DavidFBailey i don’t hate it. but i certainly don’t think it was brilliant. i’d say it provided little to no long term value to bitcoin holders. and yet the cost was no joke those things happen. i don’t think it means anyone was malicious or anything like that. but brilliant?
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David Bailey🇵🇷 $2.0mm/btc is the floor
Back in 2014 Luke secretly added bitcoin address blacklisting to Gentoo repository. His judgement cannot be trusted to run a trillion dollar asset as sole maintainer. I’m not denying he’s a brilliant person, but anyone with eyes can see it’s a non-starter reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comm…
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Udi Wertheimer@udiWertheimer·
@DavidFBailey why does everyone keep saying he’s brilliant what’s the brilliant thing he did
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BitMEX Research@BitMEX_Jon·
@MrHodl @CedYoungelman @Excellion Yep. Like you. I probably repeated over 500 times that SegWit was an ACTUAL REAL blocksize limit increase Even after SegWit happened, large blockers would not believe it and I still had to spend countless hours explaining
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Cedric Youngelman ⚡️@CedYoungelman·
"Is there even such a thing as 'spam' on Bitcoin?" @Excellion cuts through the argument most Bitcoiners talk past. Native Bitcoin data vs. ordinals, why immutability is the thing being abused, and where the line between spam and not-spam actually sits. The definition the BIP 110 fight keeps dodging. Samson Mow on what actually counts as spam: "There's a simpler way to define spam: it's not an organic Bitcoin transaction — it's trying to do something else. A Bitcoin transaction is data, yes — but it's Bitcoin's native data. If you're sending someone Bitcoin, that's not spam. But a lot of what we're seeing now — ordinals and the like — is trying to embed data and images into Bitcoin to piggyback on its immutability. That's the delineation: this is spam, this is not." @Excellion on The @_BitcoinMatrix #243
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BitMEX Research@BitMEX_Jon·
SegWit was not just a "net increase in the effective blockspace", SegWit was an actual real and literal blocksize limit increase. It was large blocker propaganda to suggest that SegWit wasnt a real blocksize limit increase somehow
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Cedric Youngelman ⚡️@CedYoungelman·
"Did we actually win the block size war — or did we lose?" @Excellion asks the question most Bitcoiners won't. Fees as a filter, the jump to 4MB, and why @LukeDashjr may have been right about smaller blocks. The context the BIP 110 fight skips. 👇 Samson Mow on whether we actually won the block size war: "The Core people say the fees are the filter. But that misses the point — you're not looking at the entire network, and what's already happened. Yes, fees filter spam. You pay fees to transact, and a spammer pays fees too. But during the block size war, we changed the whole dynamic. We changed the unit economics — we increased the block size and decreased fee pressure. So we actually made it cheaper to spam the network. Only one person talked about decreasing the block size back then — Luke Dashjr. And I think he was right. So it begs the question: did we actually win the block size war, or did we lose? We had a net increase in effective block space, going to four megabytes — and the repercussions of that, I don't think we've really reasoned out. Maybe it was a mistake to go to four. Maybe we should have kept it at one, and left the settings of the network as they were." @Excellion on The @_BitcoinMatrix #243
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Caylon
Caylon@CoSatoshi821·
I mean, just look at all this fucking spam-ass garbage that will soon be rejected at the consensus layer... #BIP110 #runknots
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Stephan Livera@stephanlivera·
gmax on the lies of the BIP110 crowd who claim it is not about spam, while still agitating based on spam #msg66844763" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">bitcointalk.org/index.php?topi…
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> Agreed that he’s done great work for Bitcoin, especially in the early days. Agreed. @LukeDashjr is a pioneer and legend * Luke put the following "Yandere" message in the blockchain in August 2011. As far as we can tell, the first ever onchain spam "yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "]yandere" to join.FN #yandere" Source: mempool.space/block/00000000… * Luke put the following "Hamburger" message in the blockchain in August 2011 “'I am eating a big juicy hamburger" Source: mempool.space/block/00000000… * In 2011, Luke put all these "prayers" in the blockchain: Eligius/Benedictus Deus. Benedictum Nomen Sanctum eius. Eligius/Benedictus Deus. Benedictum Nomen Sanctum eius. *************************************************** Benedictus Iesus Christus, verus Deus et verus homo. Benedictum Nomen Iesu. Benedictum Cor eius sacratissimum. Benedictus Sanguis eius pretiosissimus. Benedictus Iesus in sanctissimo altaris Sacramento. Benedictus Sanctus Spiritus, Paraclitus. Benedictus Sanctus Spiritus, Paraclitus. Benedicta excelsa Mater Dei, Maria sanctissima. Benedicta sancta eius et immaculata Conceptio. Benedicta sancta eius et immaculata Conceptio. Benedicta eius gloriosa Assumptio. Benedictum nomen Mariae, Virginis et Matris. Benedictum nomen Mariae, Virginis et Matris. Benedictus sanctus Ioseph, eius castissimus Sponsus. Benedictus Deus in Angelis suis, et in Sanctis suis. Amen. In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti. Amen. O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee and I detest all my sins... O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee and I detest all my sins... Eye'm the strongest! ...because of Thy just punishments, but most of all because they offend Thee, ... ...my God, who art all good and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to sin no more... I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to sin no more... ...and avoid the near occasions of sin. Amen. O my God! I firmly believe that Thou art one God in three Divine persons, ... O my God! I firmly believe that Thou art one God in three Divine persons, ... ...Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; I believe that Thy Divine Son became man, ... ...and died for our sins, and that he will come to, judge the living and the dead. I believe these and all the truths which the Holy Catholic Church teaches, ... ...because Thou hast revealed them, who canst neither deceive nor be deceived. O my God! relying on Thy infinite goodness and promises, ... ...I hope to obtain pardon of my sins, the help of Thy grace, ... ...and life everlasting, through the merits of Jesus Christ, my Lord and Redeemer. ...and life everlasting, through the merits of Jesus Christ, my Lord and Redeemer. O my God! I love Thee above all things, with my whole heart and soul, ... ...because Thou art all-good and worthy of all love. ...because Thou art all-good and worthy of all love. Yukkuri Shiteitte ne I love my neighbor as myself for the love of Thee. I forgive all who have injured me, and ask pardon of all whom I have injured. I forgive all who have injured me, and ask pardon of all whom I have injured. I forgive all who have injured me, and ask pardon of all whom I have injured. O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of Hell, ... ...lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy. I confess to Almighty God, to blessed Mary ever Virgin, ... ... to blessed Michael the Archangel, to blessed John the Baptist, ... ... to the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, and to all the Saints, ... ... that I have sinned exceedingly, in thought, word, and deed, ... ... through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault. Therefore I beseech blessed Mary ever Virgin, blessed Michael the Archangel, ... ... blessed John the Baptist, the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, ... ... and all the Saints to pray to the Lord our God for me. Amen. St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle; be our safeguard against ... St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle; be our safeguard against ... ... the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke him, ... ... we humbly pray, and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, ... ... we humbly pray, and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, ... ... we humbly pray, and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, ... ... we humbly pray, and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, ... ... by the power of God, cast into Hell, Satan and all the other evil spirits, ... ... who wander throughout the world, seeking the ruin of souls. Amen. Angel of God, my guardian dear, to whom His love commits me here, ... ... ever this night be at my side, to light and guard, to rule and guide. Amen. Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum. Benedicta tu in mulieribus, ... ... et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ... ... et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ... ... et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ... ... ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc, et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen. Salve, Regina, mater misericordiae: vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra, salve. Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae. Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes ... Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae. Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes ... ... in hac lacrimarum valle. Eia, ergo, advocata nostra, illos tuos ... ... misericordes oculos ad nos converte. Et Iesum, benedictum fructum ... ... ventris tui, nobis post hoc exsilium ostende. O clemens, O pia, ... ... O dulcis Virgo Maria. Ora pro nobis, sancta Dei Genetrix. Ut digni efficiamur promissionibus Christi. Amen. Pater noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur Nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Pater noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur Nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua, sicut in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum ... ... da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra sicut et nos dimittimus ... ... debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem! Sanae is a good girl We adore Thee, O Christ, and we bless Thee; We adore Thee, O Christ, and we bless Thee; because by Thy holy Cross Thou hast redeemed the world. May the Holy Trinity be blessed. People were pretty angry about the spam and Luke defended himself as follows: "there is no technical problem with the prayers" "Nevermind the fact that it was actually started with political propaganda in the Genesys block by Satoshi himself, setting a clear and undeniable precedent." * In Feb 2013, Luke gave the first ever philosophical of non-standard transactions, saying: "Blocking out "non-standard" transactions in general just harms potential innovation." Source: #msg1494788" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">bitcointalk.org/index.php?topi… * Luke mined the first ever OP_Return in March 2013 (mempool.space/block/00000000…) * Luke mined the first non-standard OP_Return in July 2013 (mempool.space/block/00000000…) * Luke mined the first music lyrics in OP_Return in Nov 2013 (mempool.space/tx/d29c9c0e8e4…) Yes Luke is a pioneer. And he has contributed a lot to Bitcoin outside of the area of spam. But as far as onchain spam goes, Luke is the absolute OG! Luke set the precedent for the inscriptions we have today, like nobody else.

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Leonidas 🧡 $DOG
Leonidas 🧡 $DOG@LeonidasNFT·
BELOW I PRESENT SHOCKING EVIDENCE THAT EXPOSES BIP-110 LEADER @LUKEDASHJR AS A FRAUD AND A LIAR 🧵 I SPENT THE PAST MONTH RESEARCHING THE BITCOIN BLOCKCHAIN AND HAVE UNCOVERED A DARK SECRET SO ASTONISHING THAT IT WILL SURPRISE EVEN LUKE'S MOST DEVOUT SUPPORTERS WHAT I DISCOVERED NOT ONLY UNDERMINES LUKE'S INTEGRITY BUT CALLS INTO QUESTION THE LEGITIMACY OF THE ENTIRE BIP-110 PROPOSAL HERE ARE MY FINDINGS BEGINNING IN BLOCK 139690 LUKE'S MINING POOL ELIGIUS MADE ITS FIRST OF MANY INSCRIPTIONS INTO THE BITCOIN BLOCKCHAIN THE INSCRIPTIONS APPEAR TO BE CATHOLIC PRAYERS THAT ARE STORED IN COINBASE TRANSACTIONS THAT MUST BE HOSTED BY NODES IN THE BITCOIN NETWORK FOREVER SIMILAR INSCRIPTIONS APPEAR ACROSS BLOCKS 139717, 139792, 139831, 138898, 139904, 139921, 139942, 139960, 139977, 139990, 140181, AND MANY OTHERS ANYONE CAN INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY MY FINDINGS WHAT IS MOST ASTOUNDING IS THAT THESE INSCRIPTIONS BEGAN APPEARING IN 2011 WHICH IS OVER 10 YEARS BEFORE THE FIRST ORDINALS INSCRIPTIONS APPEARED IN THE BITCOIN BLOCKCHAIN THIS MEANS THAT NOT ONLY DID LUKE USE THE BITCOIN NETWORK TO HOST NON-ARBITRARY DATA BUT HE WAS THE ONE WHO STARTED THE "SPAM" MOVEMENT BUT IT GETS EVEN WORSE NOT ONLY WAS LUKE HIMSELF A "SPAMMER" BUT HE APPEARS TO HAVE BUILT A SERVICE THAT ALLOWED OTHERS TO "SPAM" THE BITCOIN NETWORK IN ELIGIUS MINED BLOCK 142573 SOMEONE APPEARS TO USE HIS SERVICE TO INSCRIBE THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE: "7Militant atheists, {LINK REMOVED} -- happy now?" THE LINK THAT I REMOVED APPEARS TO BE A "RICKROLL" THERE ARE MANY OTHER SUCH INSCRIPTIONS LUKE HAS ATTEMPTED TO HIDE THIS INFORMATION FROM HIS FOLLOWERS FOR OVER A DECADE HOPING THAT IT WOULD NOT BE FOUND AND BROUGHT TO LIGHT FORTUNATELY I HAVE DISCOVERED IT AND FEEL OBLIGATED TO SHARE IT WITH THE BIP-110 COMMUNITY WHO HAS BEEN WORSHIPING A FALSE IDOL IF THE LEADER OF THE BIP-110 MOVEMENT IS THE ORIGINAL "SPAMMER" THEN IT MAKES ME WONDER WHAT OTHER SECRETS ARE THESE PEOPLE HIDING?
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Adam Back@adam3us·
@DavidFBailey 🤣🤣LMAO the running vote count thinking nodes vote, shows how retarded Bitcoin twitter is.
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BitMEX Research@BitMEX_Jon·
It depends: * The consensus rules are enforced by economic nodes * Deciding on the longest chain within the rules is heavily influenced by miners * Tightening relay policy requires near unanimous consent of all nodes, even ones without any economic influence or coins * Loosening relay policy can be done by a tiny handful of noder operators, even ones without any economic influence or coins Therefore, ironically, the one tiny area the BIP-110 people are complaining about is ruled by noderunners and plebs. Which I think is great! Power to the noderunners!
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BitMEX Research@BitMEX_Jon·
In the Blocksize War, I was fasinated in it from the start. While at the moment I am following this BIP-110 issue very closely, the trouble is I think I missed the start of this dispute. When Ordinals became popular in 2023, I really did not care in the slightest. To me, this was just like waves of other stuff that had been on Bitcoin over the years. (e.g NFTs, Counterparty, Omni, images in fake public keys, LukeJr's onchain spam about Hamburgers and Yandere anime etc) I saw some people were annoyed by it, but I had no sense of the anger and passion they felt and I did not pay much attention. When the whole OP_Return issue picked up in the summer of 2025, I was pretty surpirsed by how angry this made people. Therefore, I do not tink I have been following this from the begining, which would make it harder to write a good book. At the same time, not much has happened compared to the Blocksize War and much of what has happened feels like a pathetic joke compared to the Blocksize war. I was at the "Hong Kong agreement" in 2015. It felt like there was real tension and fear in the room. The meeting felt important. And it felt like the group there had some influence over Bitcoin. I was at an "equivalent" showdown meeting in Lugano in 2025. It felt a bit pathetic by comparison. Felt like the participants were not a significant part of the ecosystem. Some participants had other priorties. Some people wanted it to be important, but it didnt really feel important. Felt more like an act or performance. And the fundemntal issues being talked about were total nonsense. "There have never been any images in Bitcoin, but its different now because large OP_Returns are now officially sanctioned by Core, and Core is the reference client. Therefore we are in a crises". Like what the actual fuck!! That is just utter nonsense! We actually sat there and spoke about that for hours. That said if the BIP-110 movement do eventually split off into anthother chain, I may think about a book. But I think a book is unlikley at this point
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Eric Wall
Eric Wall@ercwl·
BIP-110 people, don't fork yourselves off. The spam is gone. No one is even using large OP_RETURNs. Luke is a weird retard and you haven't even noticed that you disagree with him about critical stuff. You have no market support. You will directionally go the way of big blockers but achieve less than 1% of their failed result. No one will remember you (except for that "weird period when bitcoiners were all talking about CSAM"). Not even Zucco thinks you're wired right. @BitMEX_Jon will probably start to write a book about you at some point and then decide it isn't really worth the time and downgrade the task to an Al-generated blogpost.
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