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@BsD_AoT

Former One above all DPS main now Eternity.

Katılım Mayıs 2020
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Cub@BsD_AoT·
@ClipseCreates The amount of apes that don’t realize it is even worse
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Cub@BsD_AoT·
@SZippz @Puhpeee It’s not confusing at all 😂😂 they literally showed them and never showed the ones you are talking about
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SZipp🎴@SZippz·
@Puhpeee If these are them then im happy with that. Little confusing which ones they are using
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Gen.G Arnold
Gen.G Arnold@arnoldwh·
I want to say something about Kiin, because I want to be direct with our fanbase about how I feel. They published the selection criteria. Read them for yourself, because they matter. After the achievement-based shortlist, the final roster came down to what they themselves called "detailed individual metrics." If you understand the game, look at that list and ask one question: what does a top laner do to make most of those numbers go up? He gets the favorable matchup. He gets the comfort pick. He gets resources funneled into his lane. Solo kills, DPM, DPG, gold diff at 14, CS diff at 14, every one of those climbs when the draft is built around you, and sinks when you give the lane up so a teammate can have theirs. Now ask what Kiin does. Kiin is the top laner who says "draft around everyone else and give me the leftover pick, I'll make it work." He takes the counterpick so a teammate gets comfort. He eats the hard matchup so the map opens elsewhere. Every one of those choices is a teammate's DPM going up instead of his. He trades his stat line for his team's win condition, every single game. There's no column on that list for that. The closest it comes to team value, gold share, damage share, still rewards the player who gets the resources, not the one who gives them up. And champion pool size is right there on the list: a metric that should favor exactly the kind of flexible player Kiin is. He plays one of the widest, most selfless pools in the role and still didn't make it. And before anyone runs with this: this is not about Zeus. Zeus is world-class and earned his spot. The players aren't the problem. The measuring stick is. We need to more rigorously test the statistics we cite, especially when it becomes a measuring stick that can impact decisions like these. If your criteria are built mostly from individual mechanical stats without proper statistical context, you haven't found the best players, you've found the players whose teams were built to make them look best. Kiin plays the game the right way. If these metrics say otherwise, the metrics are the problem, not Kiin, and not the players who were picked. To Kiin's fans: you already know this. You watched him do it. Please show him more support than ever.
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Cub@BsD_AoT·
@SuguYT These are fan made…..
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kam🇱🇧@kammmmmmme·
@Jad_Khanaferr These display after the game and at career and the one i qrt’d are the ones shown in menu and with that it’s still not clicking with me
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Lee@iUse360p50InTV·
@RalphyyR6 Not even sure how this community is so low IQ, we got a reveal with the actual ranks and then some donkey just posts a random fake ss and everyone just believes it like what😭
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Cub@BsD_AoT·
@qwyuijb @helloFB48 @arnoldwh Faker, Keria, Oner, and Guma were on his team… crazy how they won the very next year without him….
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KSG_2K@RY5700x2GB·
@Going2grind @G0LD_PLAYZ same would go for you not playing anymore, what did you do ask chatgpt to make a brain dead comment for you in response to someone posting their opinion ??
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Cub@BsD_AoT·
@sledgemymute @Rainbow6Game You do know these aren’t real right? They were fan made and posted on Reddit Defy is rage baiting
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Cub@BsD_AoT·
@Keerurgo You people are actual drones believing fake screenshots
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Gen.G Arnold@arnoldwh·
Oh and not counting MSI? I don’t even know how to address that since I can’t even understand the base logic of it…
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Cub@BsD_AoT·
@86twt @arnoldwh It’s not T1 fans is ZOFGK fans and HLE fans
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🌧️@86twt·
@arnoldwh t1fans in the comments acting like GENG CEO will admit a GENG players should been passed over for a t1 player almost everyone agrees kiin and oner should be picked but obv Arnold can’t say that so stop whining in his comments and tell ur ceo to file an appeal for his own player
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Ahri@ahri_ell·
@AuxCasts @perfectchovy i've seen it being speculated on korean forums that its because it might limit the pool of players that can be selected since in the last few years only T1 and GenG attended so it favors the players that have played on those rosters. thoughts ?
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Dan Harrison@AuxCasts·
This is completely correct, using these 'Detailed individual metrics' to judge a player without additonal context is a joke It's a huge self report that you don't understand league of legends if you do this Stats are a tool and are so often misused in the most incompetent ways
Gen.G Arnold@arnoldwh

I want to say something about Kiin, because I want to be direct with our fanbase about how I feel. They published the selection criteria. Read them for yourself, because they matter. After the achievement-based shortlist, the final roster came down to what they themselves called "detailed individual metrics." If you understand the game, look at that list and ask one question: what does a top laner do to make most of those numbers go up? He gets the favorable matchup. He gets the comfort pick. He gets resources funneled into his lane. Solo kills, DPM, DPG, gold diff at 14, CS diff at 14, every one of those climbs when the draft is built around you, and sinks when you give the lane up so a teammate can have theirs. Now ask what Kiin does. Kiin is the top laner who says "draft around everyone else and give me the leftover pick, I'll make it work." He takes the counterpick so a teammate gets comfort. He eats the hard matchup so the map opens elsewhere. Every one of those choices is a teammate's DPM going up instead of his. He trades his stat line for his team's win condition, every single game. There's no column on that list for that. The closest it comes to team value, gold share, damage share, still rewards the player who gets the resources, not the one who gives them up. And champion pool size is right there on the list: a metric that should favor exactly the kind of flexible player Kiin is. He plays one of the widest, most selfless pools in the role and still didn't make it. And before anyone runs with this: this is not about Zeus. Zeus is world-class and earned his spot. The players aren't the problem. The measuring stick is. We need to more rigorously test the statistics we cite, especially when it becomes a measuring stick that can impact decisions like these. If your criteria are built mostly from individual mechanical stats without proper statistical context, you haven't found the best players, you've found the players whose teams were built to make them look best. Kiin plays the game the right way. If these metrics say otherwise, the metrics are the problem, not Kiin, and not the players who were picked. To Kiin's fans: you already know this. You watched him do it. Please show him more support than ever.

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Cub@BsD_AoT·
@adololfan You mention Canyon but most GenG fans agree that Oner should be over Canyon 😂😂
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ado (i miss theshy)@adololfan·
I can empathise that Arnold wants to defend his player but at the same time his words can be used against his own player (Canyon) and push further into the thought why Oner wasn’t selected? Also mentioning Zeus as if he didn’t tank several bad drafts for HLE through the year..
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HLE Creator@HLECreator·
@adololfan @love_woojezpzvd I find it funny that people think he perma gets counterpick or always gets draft prio, he’s had his fair share of doing his ksante/ornn/sion duties and in fact one of his biggest strengths has been to pick a losing matchup, equalize the lane through skill and scale up and carry
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Aleš@AlTeichman·
@chovygoat You do understand they only get exemptions if they win, right?
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Church of Chovy@chovygoat·
Ppl are mad at this when I literally said yesterday Oner not getting selected is crazy too. I don’t think Chovy or anyone who’s already exempt should be in the team.
Church of Chovy@chovygoat

@arnoldwh One of the biggest robberies in history. Kiin deserves better. We are behind Kiin no matter what. #KiinFighting 👊

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Cub@BsD_AoT·
@helloFB48 @arnoldwh Kiin is far better than Zeus…. The gap between Kiin and Zeus is the same size as the gap between Canyon and Oner
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ZOFGK_RAT❤🖤💜@helloFB48·
@arnoldwh Oner >>>> Canyon... What about that... Kiin and Zeus are definitely close in impact.. But oner is definitely far better... Still canyon got picked.. 🙂
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Akshan@AkshanJeng87754·
@ShuixingP86937 @arnoldwh Zeus can play sacrificial picks too but the difference is when Zeus does it he ends up 2k gold behind, while Kiin still comes out of lane 2k gold ahead even when hes put on weak side That’s why Kiin is the greatest top in history and that won’t change even if he never wins Worlds
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Cub@BsD_AoT·
@Chason93 @arnoldwh Both are world class but it’s clear to everyone that Kiin is the best top laner in the world
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Chason@Chason93·
@arnoldwh Canyon got picked over Oner with lower DPM, CS diff, and Gold diff. Selectors already knew metrics aren't everything just not in your favor. Both Kiin and Zeus are world-class. Take it to the federation, not here.
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