Katie ☦️

@ShanePaisios @Alex_Ortodoxie Every time Kelly was asked a question that forced him reflect on his worldview, he would say he wanted to “move on”. He spent more time running than answering questions.

This is an example of people watching the debate they wanted to see. I think Kelly is a decent enough guy, but to say that his showing was anything more than amateur reveals your bias for his position. @Alex_Ortodoxie asks about Kelly's justification for his own interpretation and Kelly says, "Because Bible". Kelly couldn't even articulate why he uses the textual tradition that he does.

@ShanePaisios The real Sophie’s choice for them.

Mauler and JP struggling to decide who to support on this one....

@_InTheFilth @C2Antiquity @ManassehRJones I have had a few conversations with Manny and honestly, I just feel bad that he has been brainwashed into these views.

A few little gems from @ManassehRJones call-ins that made me laugh. "I DON'T TAKE COMMUNION" "YOU BLASPHEMED THE HOLY WRIT"

@C2Antiquity @Alex_Ortodoxie Every time a Protestant talks bad about Holy Orthodoxy, we gain another catechumen.

TONS of new inquirers at church today. All of them came from watching apologetics. Glory to God. Today was a good day

@LowStudies Yes. I really liked it.

Did anyone watch this?

@C2Antiquity OUT OUT OUT! GET OUT! ☦️☦️☦️

The Ethiopian OOs are threatening to cast spells on me. 😩😭🥀

@ManassehRJones That person wasn’t an inquirer. He was Byzantine Catholic.

Orthodox Clergy, Stephen DeYoung, getting the heat for his refusing to answer a question from a non-Orthodox doctrine enquiror. youtu.be/diCSESOgXXY?is…

Everyone should go watch Fr. Jonathan talk to a Baptist Pastor. This was a great conversation! A Baptist Discusses Doctrine with an Orthodox Pastor youtu.be/Lj3H5MSW5FQ?is… via @YouTube

@d_bahler @Abunajohn Great question!

@Abunajohn He does On the other hand, what Bishop is there to bring you in line if you should step out and act inappropriately?

I honestly don’t think that Metropolitan Saba knows one of his priests is debating on X.

@JayDyer I guarantee he is going to say his debate with @paleochristcon should count.

Since David Wood has changed the topic from my original offer of what is the one true church to icons (?), it’s only fair I get one request that he do one orthodox debate first.

Again, I said I WILL debate David Wood if he does one debate with either Qai, Erhan, or Sorin, and doesn’t get blown out.

@ManassehRJones @Alex_Ortodoxie I think you should allow your world view to be challenged.

@ChasingKatharos @Alex_Ortodoxie To tell him he is an unregenerated, imaginary autonomous free will idol worshipper, that has no personal Soteriological testimony as to his being an adopted son of God that alighns with scripture? I'm sure that will be well received.

The Soteriology of the Roman Catholic and Orthodox religions ARE NOT the personal Soteriology testimonies of the elect Apostles. That's how quickly Satan corrupted Soteriology.

@ManassehRJones @Alex_Ortodoxie How do you know you aren’t the one interpreting scripture wrong?

@LizzieMarbach Do you not follow the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed?

@ManassehRJones @Alex_Ortodoxie I disagree with your comments about Alex but I was more saying you might be able to call in on his channel to talk to Fr.SDY.

@ChasingKatharos @Alex_Ortodoxie Stephen Deyoung might be a good selection. Alex doesn't know the Word of God well enough.

Would you repost this for me? Even if you don't have the answer, so it gets out. If I wanted to have an open dialogue with a ordained Orthodox Priest on Soteriology...WHO would it be with? Strictly biblical, no "thus saith the Church Fathers." If you know of someone, can you post a link to them for me please. Can't be a laymen that doesn't know the Holy Writ. Grace and peace, all you beloved elect of God.

@LloydLegalist @C2Antiquity

I convince my friend to give church one more try, and he gets greeted by a sea of puppets singing children’s songs like a cult with a craft budget.

@ryanalanstanley @JPuncut @Alex_Ortodoxie I’m glad you put 3rd century and 200s in the same paragraph. I don’t think he realizes what 3rd century means.

@JPuncut @Alex_Ortodoxie JP, you’re continually posting on X that no one can point out how you got destroyed in this debate. I genuinely can’t tell if you’re serious or ragebating, but a lot of your arguments have real problems, and I just have to believe you know it. The whole argument from silence thing is a glaring issue for you. Your whole case leans on "nobody wrote about it, therefore it wasn't there." But you literally said in the same breath that praying to God also wasn't controversial, and yet the fathers wrote tons about that. So which is it? Either silence means something wasn't practiced, or silence means something wasn't controversial. You can't use it both ways depending on what helps you win the point. You butchered the Irenaeus quote. ****Alex called this out and you never really recovered. Irenaeus is talking about Gnostics doing magic, binding angels in rituals, the whole Simon Magus type stuff. That's the context. Your response was basically "doesn't matter who he was talking to, the statement stands." That's not how reading works. Context decides what a statement means. Saying "the church prays to God, not angels" in a chapter about Gnostic theurgy is not a universal ban on asking a saint to intercede. Those are completely different things and you know it. Regarding Origen, you cited him positively in your opening. Then when Alex showed the fuller quote, you called him a thrice heretic. You can't do that. Pick a lane. Also your Jeremiah 15 parallel actually backfires on you. That passage assumes Moses and Samuel can intercede; God's just saying he won't listen in this specific case of national judgment. That's the Orthodox position, not yours. And your read on the "find a Paul or Peter" line is strained. Origen uses them by name as paradigm cases for supplication. Saying he just means "find someone like them who's still alive" is you importing a conclusion into the text, not reading it out. I thought your weakest moment was on Hippolytus. Hippolytus uses specific petition language for the three youths, "I entreat you," and you said it's the same as him addressing Nebuchadnezzar rhetorically. It's not. The register is completely different. Alex made that point clearly and you kind of just repeated your assertion louder. The necromancy angle also didn't land because necromancy isn't just "asking someone who died something." That's not the definition and it's not what the text shows Hippolytus doing. You rejected the Talmud when it helped Alex, then quoted it when it helped you. That's special pleading. Also the passage you cited, the "cry out to me directly, not to Michael or Gabriel" one, doesn't actually say what you think it says. Orthodox theology also says don't substitute saints for God. Saints intercede to God. That passage isn't the smoking gun you treated it as. Sub Tuum Praesidium is a third century liturgical prayer used in Christian worship. You basically said it doesn't count because it's not a church father writing a treatise. But that's a totally Protestant way of thinking about how doctrine gets transmitted. The old formula is "how you pray is how you believe." If Christians across Egypt were praying to the Theotokos in the 200s, that's not nothing. Dismissing it because it's not a signed letter from a bishop is just moving the goalposts. I mean, your whole framework, explicit apostolic command plus explicit patristic endorsement, that's a post-Reformation standard. You're applying it to a pre-Nicene church that didn't work that way. By that same logic, homoousios fails too. The word isn't in the Apostolic Fathers either. I’m really not trying to be mean or rude to you. But you seem smart, and I genuinely don’t understand how you can’t see this for yourself. I hope that you do, and that you come home to the Holy Orthodox Church.

@ManassehRJones Lord have mercy on them and your daughter.

One of my daughters, a twin, in surgery right now to put screws in her broken ankle. She is 12 years old, fell off her bike. Ran into a man at the elevator that knew me. He was pushing a baby in a stroller. His 4 year old daughter is dieing of cancer and isn't expected to live past Monday. LORD...have mercy.

@UbiPetrus2019 Justice for the Katherine’s that aren’t crazy! lol