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@needGod_net @Herr_Oberst45 why should we afterwards? we're saved

@Herr_Oberst45 Exactly, couldn’t be clearer. Believe to be saved, then get baptized afterwards

Those who add water baptism as an extra requirement to “really” be a Christian, are making the same ERROR the Galatians were. Adding 1 good act of obedience as part of being saved = Christ won’t save you (Gal. 5:2) Whether it be circumcision, baptism or sharing the gospel.

I agree that God offers salvation freely. But wheres you may assume forensic justification, I would argue we are being made new as a patient in a hospital. And the sick people are not "saving themselves" by taking the medicine prescribed by the Healer. I've never done a formal debate, I'm just an average dude trying to feed my family and lead my children to Christ, to be in communion with Him actually.

@CloserToSource @Reformed_Rican Are you willing to formally debate whether free grace is biblical?

Orthodox and Catholics often cannot answer the question, “do you know you’re going to heaven?” They will say they can’t know for sure, that only God knows, and that they’ll find out once their lives are over. What a stupid, unbiblical, and sad way to think about salvation. 1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life. John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. Another reason why there is no hope of the Gospel in Rome or in the East, and why their churches are apostate.

@needGod_net False dichotomy. We are just taking the medicine Christ gave us. He is the healer. Your flawed logic is like, oh no if I take my medicine the doctor prescribed, I'm healing myself!!! Oh no!!

Believing that your works play a part in getting you to heaven is to say that what Jesus did on the cross was not enough.

Please post a bit more positive, beautiful or informative content on this platform

@RepThomasMassie @Maximus_ROCOR @TrumpDailyPosts @julie_pipk71617 destruction of the family

@TrumpDailyPosts @julie_pipk71617 What’s the greatest threat to liberty in America?

What is the greatest threat to liberty in America?

@Timcast No future for men

Whats the greatest threat to liberty in America?

@BreTweetz A single love is inward looking Two is looking at each other, a closed loop Trinitarian love is overflowing outwardly to the whole world.

I love being a woman I love being white I love being conservative I love living in the west I love the police I love fighting for the unborn I love protecting women’s spaces I love borders I love freedom of speech I love the nuclear family I love love love!!!

@OrthodoxPole81 Amen. And a lifelong journey, not a one time forensic event.

In Orthodoxy, love in marriage is not conditional, not transactional-it is cruciform.

@JPuncut Because every soul has worth and is made in the image of God. Where exactly are you leading these people once you gaslight them? What Church are they supposed to go to?

There seems to be a pattern. Whenever I give God glory because someone left EO, they immediately respond with, “Well, this number of Protestants became EO.” That’s good for you. I didn’t ask Sadly though, you guys seem to care a lot. If what we do is minuscule why do you care?

@OrthodoxLurker that's why we keep training them with 5 hour liturgies

The hardest part about raising Orthodox Christian small children is that they don’t pay attention to the five hour debate streams

@needGod_net Arbitrary Chrsitians teaming up

Had a great stream with David Wood. We talked about 5 majors concerns with Eastern Orthodoxy. Check it out

@MedWhiteAcolyte "Arbitrary Christians" is the new term. Spread the message bros! Stop saying protestant and evangelical!

"Are you protestant?" "No, I'm non-denom."

@JPuncut @AL_J82 @HHS3239 @truthcartel816 What Church should I go to?

Another person has left Orthodoxy (This guy was an actual Orthodox member) That is 5 this month Credit to: @AL_J82 @HHS3239 @truthcartel816 (the guy also mentioned me) Continue the good work!

@Orthocoma25 Their mode of operation is gaslighting people into cults, not truth seeking.

you are boasting that someone left Orthodoxy but have nothing to say about where they went. its one thing to manipulate someone into apostatizing, its something else entirely to not care about where they go afterwards. Will you follow up with the apostate and lead him on a path that you believe will lead him to salvation or will you just boast in your pride and ignore the consequences of what might happen to this poor soul? Also, If faith is all you need to be saved by Christ then why cant someone be Orthodox? Orthodox Christians have faith in Christ so.....what's the issue with being Orthodox? I sincerely want an answer to these questions. If you wont reply here then I will go into a space with you. @JPuncut

Orthodox teaching offers real hope for your father: God is infinitely merciful and desires all to be saved. We entrust him fully to Christ’s compassion. ☦️☦️☦️ O God of spirits and of all flesh, Who hast trampled down death and overthrown the devil, and given life to Thy world; do Thou, the same Lord, give rest to the soul of Thy departed servant Lee in a place of brightness, a place of refreshment, a place of repose, where all sickness, sorrow, and sighing have fled away. Pardon every transgression which he hath committed, whether by word or deed or thought; for Thou art the good God and Lover of mankind, for there is no man that liveth and sinneth not; for Thou only art without sin, and Thy righteousness is to all eternity, and Thy word is true. For Thou art the Resurrection, the Life, and the Repose of Thy servant Lee, O Christ our God, and unto Thee we ascribe glory, together with Thy Father Who is from everlasting, and Thine all-holy, good, and life-creating Spirit, now and ever, and unto ages of ages. Amen.

My brother’s dad just died. He wasn’t a believer in Christ. How do I pray for someone who has passed but didn’t know Christ?

I've seen this impasse as well in countless debates. Same words (“faith,” “grace,” “assurance,” “saved”)… two completely different operating systems. One is courtroom, the other is hospital. Until we name the metaphysical gap (nominalist/legal vs realist/ontological), we’ll keep talking past each other forever.

Following a bit of the Protestant polemics against Orthodoxy recently, and I realize just how difficult it is to communicate the mind of the Church across these lines. A simple example is seeing people confused about whether someone who is not baptised and participating in Orthodox communion can be "saved". Protestant are noticing that there are different answers in their estimation, and so are confused about them. The confusion comes from the belief that being "saved" or not is about "where you go after you die", when for the Orthodox "saved" means being made whole, being healed, being restored to the original purpose God had for us. For this reason, when Protestants see declarations of how communion in the body of Christ is the only way to salvation, they immediately think this is a declaration that all the non-Orthodox are going to hell after they die. When Protestants then hear the very same person who just told them that salvation is in full participation to the body of Christ go on to intimate we have nothing to say about the eschatological finality of any specific soul, it is like a short circuit that many Protestants cannot compute. This is what I could see when @OrthodoxEthos and @Acts17David were discussing and it is what I have seen in @gavinortlund's videos. In a similar vein, when a Protestant says he has the "assurance of his own personal salvation", this is confusing to the Orthodox. Orthodox also obviously have assurance of salvation, that assurance is Christ. He shows us what it means to be made whole and makes us participate in that wholeness. But how can I say that I am "saved" if I see that I am still a wretch, still prideful and arrogant and sinful? So the Orthodox, knowing they are are still sinning, though also knowing Christ has made them grow in the virtues will say something like: "I know that I am being saved." That is I can see that I am being healed, being made whole, being reformed to the resemblence of God. But again, this completely confuses the Protestant who just wants to know what will happen when you die. What side of the fence will you end up on? I am not sure how to get accross these lines, and I feel that unless we can, we will perpetually be talking past each other.

The Western liturgy was in Greek the first three centuries. Take note "trad cats" and SSPX types! Also, the switch to Latin was to give the liturgy in the vernacular of the local people. Sounds like early Rome was Orthodox!

@AL_J82 Jay literally saved my life and turned my whole family to Christ, you have no idea what you're talking about.

If Jay Dyer is the reason why your church has grown more than it has within the past ten years, then something is wrong with your church. It should be growing because of people seeking Christ. The Orthodox Church is becoming more of a boys club rather than this place of healing like they proclaim.