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@mercoglianos @MageManX @johnkonrad 2/ It can't be done economically by targeting select industries, as you and many newfound re-Ind vibers like to believe. Fundmntally, US spent decades de-ind into a financialized econ. And it will take $T, Mils workers, and decades to re-ind, if $stonkers and rentiers even agree.

@CompleteTuring @MageManX @johnkonrad Yep. I must have no idea about shipping, supply chain or history.

Latest shipbuilding numbers are out from BRS and they are not good. China had gone from 51% in 2022 to 70.9% in 2025. That is from 2,107 ships to 4,055.

@mercoglianos @MageManX @johnkonrad Very substantive reply💯. Your vibes-based analysis of Chyna badd and <we can DO THIS 'cause WWII> is typical of what's killing America. All the up/downstream s-chain, workforce, or corp incentive no longer exist. Re-ind is an OoM more challenging than your <juST MaNiFest iT>😘

@mercoglianos @MageManX @johnkonrad With ppl like you as profs (albeit in a fluff discipline), who needs enemies? You seem clueless about industry, supply chain, or even this part of history. US was the foremost industrial superpower w/ complete supply chain and ready workforce. Instd you kang and rant abt Chyna.

@MageManX @johnkonrad Be built 2 commercial ships in 1934. We built 2 in 1935. We built 1,661 in 1943. That was out of the midst of the Great Depression.

@Bluebearmonkey @AngelicaOung Bros that sleeps together, fights together 😊

@AngelicaOung Ukraine has Azov berserkers who want to crush Russian skulls with their bare hands. Taiwan has…

“An insurgent uprising in Taipei” You have GOT to be kidding me

@AngelicaOung Uncle Sam has been reading your posts and want you to know that this would be a great, natural weight loss alternative to Ozempic. 😂

@RoyStew78036358 @pretentiouswhat Might be something to this. Plus the huge depreciation on German luxury, their wealth taking a hit from housing downturn, and you get a lot of sunk cost fallacy.

@pretentiouswhat I always thought it was because people had paid a lot of money for their (ICE) licence plates, so had to keep an ICE car to justify the plate?

For a long time, the selection of cars in my compound's parking lot seemed strangely unrepresentative of the vehicles on Shanghai's streets overall. While over 50% of new cars in Shanghai are EVs, you'd hardly see any in my compound, other than Teslas. My theory was that wealthier Shanghai buyers, like my Maserati-driving landlord, were still less willing to purchase domestic brands, which I'd noticed in other similar Shanghai compounds. But recently, new Xiaomi and Huawei vehicles have appeared in our parking lot, as well as a Li Auto SUV. Maybe some evidence that Chinese EV brands are finally making products that can win over that specific Shanghai consumer class...? I wonder if "famous tech company that makes cars now" is an easier sell for them versus a luxury offering from a lesser-known Chinese car company.

@pretentiouswhat Makes sense, as not that long ago, anyone with some wealth would rather die than be caught driving a domestic car.

@LagrimaChristi @MarioNawfal Does the river fear getting wet?

@MarioNawfal Imagine the bad luck if you live just under it, it rains 24/7 365 days a year ...

This isn't AI, it's the Huajiang Canyon Bridge in Guizhou, China, the world's highest bridge at 625 meters above the river beneath it. It features a man-made waterfall created by diverting karst spring water discovered during tunnel construction.

@no_code_blue @davevvan @Herodotusowl @MarioNawfal According to the media you watch, it's been perpetually collapsing for 30 years now, just like the Chinese economy.

@davevvan @Herodotusowl @MarioNawfal I watched a YouTube documentary on this. Granted I am not an engineer but sounded like it’s not doing well at all.

@OrneryHounds @MarioNawfal Why react such way to the progress of others, why so certain about a country you've never been and people you've never met? You say to be aware of Satan, but parrots the manipulated narratives of the pedophile elites. I hope that you will open your eyes. youtu.be/cMYDrtGgmtQ?si…

@MarioNawfal The Golden Gate Bridge is 89. The Brooklyn Bridge is 143. Let’s check back at year 50. One thing modern China hasn’t demonstrated is infrastructure durability. The did build the Great Wall.

@darren_stallcup @MarioNawfal You need to have more confidence, I'll bet you 50k.

@MarioNawfal $5 says it crumbles within five years. Communist infrastructure.

@LordInquisitor_ @teortaxesTex @MelegReizinger @josefstoolin As an American, you are literally speaking from the pov of a country most ignorant about history about China, which is the most obsessed with and referential of its history. <But but American TV and YouTube told me it was a clean break and cultural revolution>🙃

@teortaxesTex @MelegReizinger @josefstoolin How often does anyone speak of China before the Qin Dynasty, other than archaeologists? The main difference between Mao and Qin was how successful they were at enforcing their clean break.

The Interstate highway system is older than the People’s Republic of China😂

@MelegReizinger @josefstoolin <Let me explain your culture, which I'm clueless about, to you. And you are wrong, I'm right because I'm YT>

@josefstoolin China is a hilariously young country, it's utter LARP for them to act like the Republic they overthrew is their heritage, let alone the dynasties before it.

@aasszzaa79 @AngelicaOung This MIT lecture series is also fantastic, though only a few has been uploaded. But the first lecture alone is well worth it, because it exposes you to not just the facts, but more importantly the mental framework and for approaching Chinese history. youtu.be/3dT8Wm5oI_o?si…

@CompleteTuring @AngelicaOung Just saw this, thank you

Man reading about the Tang dynasty ahead of my trip to Xi’an and bummed out by how the most objectively glorious dynasty in Chinese history ended in 50 years of hideous chaos. Banditry, cannibalism, onerous taxation. Made the Three Kingdoms period and subsequent fallout look like a gentleman’s disagreement. I’ve always thought of the Song as the weak dynasty but the weakness of the Song dynasty was directly related to the Tang dynasty military rebellions that led to the warlordism. Song kept its military nerfed to prevent internal coups but it was eventually got by the Mongolians from without. But yeah…despite the bad tang downfall it is still indisputably PEAK CHINA. And its capital was Xi’an…then known as Chang’an. Below is from a Tang dynasty immersive experience called 12 hours in Chang’an.

@cafreiman adjusted fOR LiviNG CosT 🤣🤣🤣 Who's doing the adjusting, you sure those numbers look right to you Bro?

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@SamoBurja Uhmm, no offense Samo, as I do find much of what you write interesting, but you often don't have the right intuition about China. Probably a Euro thing.. different enough from Anglo to see things other perspectives, but missing too many foundational pieces to understand China.

Random automation and robotics photo ops say basically nothing about China's future, as they didn't for Japan. Japan spent decades trying to apply cutting edge automation tech. The first lights out factories weren't in China but Japan. Yet look at the numbers today...

@DARVOFACTORY @AngelicaOung You will end up throwing baby out w/ the bathwater. The reason there's an elite overproduction issue is that they are being overproduced for nonproductive industries like finance and law that saturates quickly, instd of STEM that advance society. Your solution is shoot smart ppl.

@AngelicaOung Idk if ur an american or chinese citizen but we both have very severe “elite overproduction” problems and id argue that, that coupled with chinas market orientation means that youd get policies similar to means tested dnc bullshit here in america aka helps the rich not the poor

The ancient Chinese have this system where every village has a schoolhouse with a tutor. Local families would look for the bright kids and send them to the schoolhouse while kids with less potential farmed. In due time, the best of those take the arduous and expensive trip to take the imperial exams. They are supported by their whole community who ploughs resources into one child in the hope that he succeeds. The pass rate can be brutally low but they can take the exams as often as they like, often into old school age. It’s like venture capital for humans. If the candidate succeeds in the exams, it can be a transformative opportunity for the whole clan. Even if he fails to become an official he is still a resource to the family as a scholar that can teach the next generation and interface with the govt. I feel like we need something like this system for birth rates to take off again. Instead of max resource for the cultivation of each kid, max the cultivation of the top kids but there has to be a system so part of the productive outputs of the top kids goes towards supporting the others.

@DARVOFACTORY @AngelicaOung You are mixing cause and effect. Having top human talent- cogn, athletic, etc is good. Otherwise we'd still be caveman. It's HCap misallocation and incentive misalignment that's the issue. In US case, top HCap to rentier industries and mid talent trying to signal their way in.

@AngelicaOung I think a big reason it worked was because there were a lot of clan villages or extended families living in proximity. It's a topic I wish there is more info on. As for kids, start giving bonus to bigger families on admission and hiring and watch people grind out babies.

@Noahpinion It's also made China far more integrated into the global economy, including with many countries that are seeing increasing trade with the US. So win-win?

Trump's tariffs have actually started to reduce America's economic dependence on Chinese manufacturing. Let's see if he throws it all away on this trip, in exchange for a few soybean purchases. noahpinion.blog/p/trump-actual…