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@JacintaNgobese @whoistroniiq How much did Maimela et al defraud Tembisa hospital again?

What have we been saying??

@PeterDermauw White people do not stab or kill?

In South Africa there was a fight amongst a crowd of white people at the LIV golf in Steyn City. I know embarrassing for whites we should know better how to behave in public but anyway how many of them were stabbed shot and hospitalised?

@Cairo_Mathebula In fact the likes of Shoprite, Capitec, and Pepkor grew because of BEE driven rising income in the black population and also because of grants.

It’s interesting when people say transformation anti-thetical to growth when the fastest growing companies over the past 20 years are either highly transformed like Standard Bank or businesses that have grown due to the black middle-class boom.

@Duplugged @rodcampsbay You did not use brain power to have and work those farms. You used violence, discrimination, displacement, dispossession, and subjugation. We are civilized enough not to do unto you what you did to us. But things must change. More land for black people meneer.

@Crownbr @rodcampsbay Its untenable that you spend all your energy make dumbfuck arguments.But that is your nature.As is the nature of your kind to NOT work your asses off, to improve your lot using brain power and ingenuity. We SEE you.Yet you continue to trumpet your stupidity.

I have just listened to Moeletsi Mbeki talk about land and farming. He says, quite rightly that black African people are not peasants anymore. They are city dwellers just like most of the other races. It’s doubtful whether they know much about farming, and their aspiration is not a piece of land with a few cows on it. So let’s not get confused about who provides us with our daily bread. It is the farmers, followed by the millers, followed by the bakers and followed by Pick ‘n Pay Shoprite Checkers and Woolworths. So away with your war against the farming community. By killing farmers you’re killing your own food supply. Some of you will be sharp enough to understand that, but many will just follow the anti-white rhetoric.

@HelpF85398 You white people violently dispossessed and moved those black people (Land Act 1913, Group Areas Act) to those communal areas for a reason. They infertile and far from economic centres.

Communal farmers should rise up and denounce their chiefs who control 18 million hectares of their land. Then communal farmers can get a title deed and be included in the stats of 'farm ownership.' Enough of this backward nonsense of communal lands. White people own the land they farm on. Why can't black people own the land they farm on? The ANC should get this right immediately.

Muslims in UK and the US are under attack for their culture and religion. In fact brown people are including black people. You would support such persecution of a people because they are immigrants of a different culture from a host country? This is really disappointing coming from a popular host of 702. So disappointing. FYI. There is a region in Zimbabwe populated by Xhosa people. They freely practise their Xhosa traditions without persecution and participate in national cultural celebrations. Another example is the Shona people who emigrated to Kenya many decades ago. President Ruto recently conferred them an official tribe status recognizing their language and culture. The Shangaan transpose Mozambique, Zimbabwe, and South Africa. So which country can they practise their culture? We Africans are more alike than we are different. To promote hatred and dislike amongst ourselves in our continent only benefits our enemies in the world. Let’s embrace each other, not divide.

Allow me to address the issue of: " But the whites do this and you do not condemn or you are quiet about it". Firstly, the whole struggle against Imperialism, colonialism and in our South African context , Apartheid, was and continues to be a fight against those communities and groups who have invaded our spaces in the name of Their gods , established religious institutions without the permission, participation of locals. Have refused to assimilate into the ways and cultures of the people of those lands.Claiming, that these spaces were uninhabited and empty. It is the classical colonial trope. Further more, these very communities which now dominate all aspects of life,despite being in the minority started by establishing themselves as kings and queens in realms that already had kings and queens undermining ,initially just symbolically,the established traditional authorities of our people but later did it with military might and unbridled brutality.They created parallel symbols of governance and religious institutions , which later became the instruments of our subjugation. Therefore, to ask why do you condemn the actions of Africans doing exactly the same thing that the oppressive whites did to us and not condemn the whites, is a tacit acknowledgement of the subversive colonial behaviour of our so-called brothers from Nigeria and Zimbabwe. You are saying: " criticise the white colonialists just as you are criticising the black colonialists, because they are doing the same thing!" Yes, they are doing the same thing. Yes...yes...yes. I don't think this kind of deflection and obfuscation is sincere and in good faith. Secondly, these behaviours are done by those who share and know the history of colonialism, who have felt the pain and humiliation of being systematically undermined ,ignored and later brutalised. This is what makes the whole thing especially alarming. They are Africans, who know the protocols of respect but ignore them on the basis that South Africa has laws that do not orohibit them to do these things. I will discuss the constitutional and legal argument on another occasion in detail.Remember though, that the very same constitution and laws are often diametrically opposed to established mores,and lores. These are Africans, who disrespect the Africans in their host country in the same way that non-Africans have done for centuries. I question their solidarity. I question their Pan-Africanism. I want to re-iterate, that this is not an attitude that is reflective of all Zimbabweans and Nigerians in South Africa. It is however an observation of a recurring sentiment in some,as demonstrated by the "coronation" and the space-invading "churches". It is gathering momentum and boldness. It is unsettling. Not all skin-folk is kin-folk.

The recent "coronation" of a Nigerian Igbo King in East London, is a much more sinister and significant act of cultural subversion and appropriation, than we have allowed ourselves to believe. It, like the passive- aggressive invasion of our open natural spaces by so- called "churches" from Zimbabwe, is an act of aggression against the established ways and traditional practices of black South African communities, in South Africa. It is an invasion, it is a blatant colonialism aimed at the erosion of established black South African ways of being. It is orchastrayted, deliberate and wholly toxic. It is disrespectful, intentional and strategic. It is a betrayal of Pan-Africanism and a mockery of uBuntu. In the coming days and weeks, I will unpack my thoughts about this phenomenon in greater detail. Let me be clear, these acts of cultural colonialism are not reflective of all Nigerian or Zimbabweans in South Africa. They are however, reflective of a pervasive attitude towards black South Africans by some of our so-called" brothers and sisters" from some of our sister nations on the continent . This contempt for black South Africans, in South Africa is emboldening. It must be challenged, sharply so. Skin-folk is not always kin-folk.

@Bruceps @NkululekoMhlaba Malaysia and Singapore grew with both policies

Hi @NkululekoMhlaba I just think growth and inclusion, or at least regulated inclusion, can't happen at the same time. I think the record shows I'm right and growth suffers the most. Growth should at least be the single priority and inclusion or renewable power and other nice-to-haves take the gaps that appear. Real growth anyway would have an electrifying effect on inclusion and transformation..

Why is Peter Bruce Et al, so against Inclusive Growth? If Growth is the focus then also drop Climate Change & Other Sustainability Goals.

@don_d_gov @iamkoshiek Don, good sentences and well pronounced but signifying nothing. I beg.

So in your mind the current government built this infrastructure that we live in, it wasn’t inherited from an apartheid era. The financial might we have, built after 1994, not parasitically mauled from an apartheid era. Apartheid was a terrible time in our history, but SAns are quick to claim the infrastructure as their own. A question maybe, if our government is as successful as you claim why are the loosing popularity as quickly as they are. Why is that infrastructure we all enjoy going to ruins. Why is our crime rate amongst the highest in the world. Why is our unemployment the highest. You are spinning a few wins as a success. The reality is we have a weak population that votes with the hearts.

South Africa has every ingredient for a dominant economic powerhouse 📊📈 resource rich, geographically attractive, world class fintech, high digital adoption & VERY talented people infrastructure exists to host basically any global event 🎪✨ a major missing piece: leadership

@LuGuy20 @BinweA And poor pay is a legacy of apartheid. At some point pre-1994 Western Cape farmers paid their workers in wine. Wine for wages, imagine. And today you want to whine that they do not pay tax! Stupid right wing white MAGA wannabe.

Again. The tax threshold for income tax in SA is R95k per annum. There are approx. 17M employed; more than 10M of them work in private sector. Private Sector doesnt pay its employees enough to reach tax threshold. Thank you goodnight.

@RyanCoetzee @TonyLeonSA @Bruceps By all accounts, the US is the most economic developed country in the world. How many of its Presidents were business people before becoming one. None.

Very good by @Bruceps. I ask again, how many people in the cabinet or the senior civil service have ever started or run a business? And by run I mean, been responsible for a P&L. And by responsible I mean, at risk of being fired if the numbers don’t stack up. Not everyone in government needs to have done so, of course. But it is perverse that when it’s the private sector that creates jobs, and when you have 40% real unemployment, almost no one in charge has any experience of actually starting or running a business.

@JohnMay85871560 @GodTRYX There in lies the problem with you white people. Sadly for you, it will change. It is just a matter of time.

@Crownbr @GodTRYX Yes..learn lessons from zimbabwe.

"The majority of African people in South Africa live in the urban areas and they know nothing about farming." Quite right, Mr. Moeletsi Mbeki. Black South Africans should not play into political myths by the ANC, EFF, and MKP Farming is not every 🇿🇦ns dream or calling!

@C0nC3RNdCtz3n @WernerHuman18 @DieDagbreker But Boers had their own version of BEE during apartheid. A kettle calling another black?

@WernerHuman18 @DieDagbreker BEE is a crime against humanity. It has destroyed entire industries & is destroying SA. It affects the poorest of the poor the most & enslaves people to be dependent on miniscule grants. Grant money is then used to leverage more support of the dirt poor, for the enabled BEE theft

The notion that BEE is simply not operating “optimally”, and therefore minor tweaks should be made, is a red herring.  Government and the beneficiaries of BEE want to continue to extract as much as possible from the economy to enrich themselves and to hold on to the levers of power.  William Gumede did a thorough study on BEE which demonstrates how BEE is fundamentally unworkable.  BEE should be rejected and scrapped outright. Some of the pertinent points include:  - Only 46 politically connected individuals captured 60% of all BEE mining deals and became billionaires/multimillionaires. - A loss of 300,000–500,000 mining jobs since the 1990s. - The Guptas extracted >R57 billion through BEE-linked deals, and the ANC’s Chancellor House pocketed R38 billion via Hitachi contract for Medupi & Kusile, contributing to Eskom’s debt ballooning from R40 bn to over R400 bn. - BEE has destroyed merit-based competition and entrepreneurship: political connectedness to the ANC matters far more than skill

@rodcampsbay Go back to Scotland

For those who vote ANC. Enjoy your jobless life.

@InjectiveBurner @NtshwengSt25088 @GodTRYX Why don’t you emigrate to a country where taxes work the way you like?

@Crownbr @NtshwengSt25088 @GodTRYX In countries with capability within government I'd support tax and spend, but in South Africa the wasted and corrupt spending is so high that such as system cannot work. Local municipalities are also collapsing. Infrastructure disasters abound, negligible service delivery etc

South Africa has 61 million citizens yet fewer than 1 million pay 60% of all personal income tax! How is this sustainable? Taxpayers are strained and can't continue funding the ANC's socialist policies. State welfare doesn't grow the economy! Those ANC devils are very abusive!

@MokoneWaMokone @DailyInvestorSA His money will not make a difference to SA employment.

@Crownbr @DailyInvestorSA Problem with this is, our arrogance and hubris doesn't manifest to us winning and them losing... He continues to have clients cause he is winning. We continue to suffer high unemployment and stagnant growth while talking big shit online... We need serious introspection

Magnus Heystek, the co-founder and investment strategist at Brenthurst Wealth, said he is not bringing one cent he invested offshore back to South Africa. dailyinvestor.com/investing/1254…

@begottensun So how did Tsvangirai win in 2008?

Let me say the quiet part out loud: No one with any serious ambition of leadership or wealth in a future Zimbabwe, should focus on Urban and Online. They will have to have a strong rural strategy and ground game. The way ZanuPF is organised locally is quite astonishing. National politics doesn’t seem to matter here. They don’t know anything about CAB3. All they know is the simplified “2030” slogan. What we see online is the “vote buying” of seed and fertilizer. what we don’t see is the burial societies who are present at funerals. The “Humwe” cooperatives when neighbours work each others fields. The simple correlation of the traditional African church leadership an local Zanu PF leadership. Remember I live next door to the Chamisa homestead near Majada. The Sikhala homestead i less than 2 kms up th road towards Nyika. If there was a referendum here , CAB3 will sail through. Because I used to think there was NOONE in the rural areas. I was Soooooo wrong. There are a gang gang of people out here. Stand on the mountain and shout “Ngome” and see how an empty road can suddenly have 1000 young nikkaz. 🤣. Zimbabwe is a paradox.

@ori0n7 Are people at SA Treasury retards? Tell us why? Are people at SARs retards? Are people at SARB retards? Or may be if you see everyone as retards may be you are the one who is?

The only reason South Africa isn't a failed state is thanks to the private sector. Naturally the ever incompetent anc is always trying to get in the way of the private sector because the anc are ideological retards.