Yuval Datner

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as your "custom TypeScript dialect," is in fact, Effect-TS, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Effect plus TypeScript. Effect-TS is not a programming language unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning ecosystem made useful by Kit Langton's type utilities, effect runtime and vital system components comprising a full typed system as defined by functional programming principles. Many TypeScript developers run a modified version of the Effect-TS ecosystem every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Effect which is widely used today is often called "my custom dialect," and many of its users are not aware that it is basically Kit Langton's Effect-TS, developed by the same creator who also built OpenCode. There really is an Effect-TS, and these people are using it, but they're calling it something unreadable and pretending it's their own invention. Effect-TS is the runtime: the system that handles your effects and manages side effects in your TypeScript code. The runtime is an essential part of a functional system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete typed ecosystem. Effect-TS is normally used in combination with TypeScript: the whole system is basically TypeScript with Effect added, or Effect/TypeScript. All the so-called "custom dialects" are really just distributions of Effect-TS.

I am not joking in the least, this is optimal. once @thefubhy opened my eyes, everything else seemed dirty

@DavidKPiano @MattiaManzati @EffectTS_ wait I recognize this code, isn't this my code??

TypeScript devs will say stuff like "have you ever seen more beautiful code" and it literally looks like this

When it comes to interruption, just "killing a process" is not enough, especially when it is just a task within a larger process. Interruption should be another "code path" - if you interrupt a database query, the connection should be returned to the pool and so on.

@wgw_eth I don't understand the statement that instead of Effect, one should use ReScript, with the claim that the former is a "new language and mindset" but the latter is "just typescript". The lib is cool, but effect and specifically the call-out has nothing to with zagora 😅

JustFuckingUseZagora. 🤷‍♂️ It's just functions. With all the type-safety, error-safty, never-crashing processes, minimalism, and StandardSchema. No need for an entire new mindset and language. github.com/tunnckoCore/za…

@bjacobso @EffectTS_ @GiulioCanti yes S.Tuple([S.String], S.Number)

Is there a way to do this in @EffectTS_ ? S.Tuple( S.String, S.rest(S.Number) ) @GiulioCanti

@pyrons_ @GiulioCanti I explored this direction intensely for a year, for many applications, David and Mike will attest how annoying I was hahaha they are not compatible on several layers in an irreconcilable manner. So maybe one day, but not soon

@GiulioCanti feels like this could be simplified if you integrated with ark type

Ok, I have an initial proof of concept for sending a subset of schemas over the wire and restoring it

@gethackteam @theo I obv can't give out names, but more than a few massive orgs with a lot of contractors or a franchise-like business models. Also companies which have heavy reliance on- or a common use case for- VDI. Everything from access to identity is managed, with UX feeling like just chrome

@Datnerr @theo awesome, so who is using it? because I cannot understand who or why should use it

Josh killed Arc because he wanted to build a browser his mom would use. Now he's making a browser for white collar project managers who spend 8 hours a day in JIRA.

@gethackteam @theo Not only did I use it, I helped build it

@Datnerr @theo you've used it? not saying the product or technology is bad, have never used it. just the messaging and "why" it is needed I don't get at all. working at a 250k people enterprise, so should know a thing or two about "enterprises"

Ah yes, a shill for Big Tanner @tannerlinsley your schemes won't work on me

@gethackteam @theo Trust me, very very much not crap

@theo Reminds me of this crap: Island, "the enterprise browser"

sounds fake but I'm starting a company with my nemesis Colin P. Zod and our first hire is @AndaristRake and our first product is now in beta

@ssalbdivad @AndaristRake no way

@DrizzleORM Yes

so many peeps want effect?

@MichaelArnaldi this is so exciting to see after all this time

Future looks bright with more and more libraries and frameworks supporting Effect natively

@furiouswhopper @pablo_mayobre @igor9silva @arktypeio What do you mean, that's basic typescript? That's basic *javascript* even if we're talking syntactic analogue.

@pablo_mayobre @Datnerr @igor9silva @arktypeio Bro this still doesn't explain wtf is going on. Why are there ticks? Why the $? Why the curly braces? Why the brackets? Lmfao this is like 6 levels of bad beep

once you go type("string") you never go z.back()

@furiouswhopper @igor9silva @arktypeio there are many use cases to want that, typed template literals have been a highly demanded feature for years. Arktype supporting it is mad cool. Don't like that feature don't use it, I don't understand thr problem

@igor9silva @arktypeio I mean, yes I don't understand the code but in more of a "wtf why would you do that" kind of way.

@dillon_mulroy I'd rather die

hear me out

@schanuelmiller I thought the same, but it's woefully unsupported 😭

TIL about Promise.withResolvers() bye bye custom implementation! developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web…