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@wtlwoods80503 @beinlibertarian It becomes part of the debt as the Treasury bills it holds need to be cashed out. So SS is basically a creditor against the annual budget.

@beinlibertarian Well Social Security isn't part of the debt. So, it's not a valid choice. But yes, if I had all the money, I paid in it the S&P I'd be a millionaire.

Everyone is talking about the National Debt But nobody is offering solutions. So here goes… If Social Security were optional, would you opt out?

@Fwd_Party Who are the candidates running under your party’s banner in NOV?

More states now calling special sessions to give their politicians a chance to choose new voters since they weren’t willing to deliver solutions for their current voters. If you’re a voter looking to be chosen, then the two major parties have that market cornered. But if you’re a voter looking to be empowered to CHOOSE, then come move Forward with us 🙋‍♀️🙋‍♂️

@mattvanswol I mean, yeah. The general assembly wasn’t in session today. This was all about aligning their desire to expand their power into a union because it’s Mayday.

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW?!!!!! YOU CANCELLED MY KINDERGARTENERS CLASSES TODAY TO COSPLAY A REVOLUTION???!!!!!!! YOU DO NOT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT MY KID!!!!! I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS. I’M TAKING A VACATION DAY FROM WORK SO YOU CAN GO DANCE IN A PARK?!!!!!!!!!!

@JohnathanDough @dead_baseball I am absolutely saying that I believe that there are people who would make the choice to push one button and then question that choice because in most other situations, they have an emotional reaction to choosing the alternate option based on what color aligns with their politics

@DavidModeel @dead_baseball Anyone who ties the red and blue to politics is absolutely moronic. If you think pressing red is a signal that you're a republican you are sub 90 iq

Again, not making a "red is right" or "blue is right" post, but just adding something to the thought experiment. Let's say the vote is tied. Half the world voted red and half voted blue. You have the only remaining vote... which one do you press (this one is obv blue)? (cont.)

@yinzer_g CLT is currently the #21 media market. RAL is #22. Projected growth to 2050 is 20% for CLT and 45.8 % for RAL. People consider Raleigh to be a small market, which was true when the Panthers joined the NFL, but is not as true today and will heavily favor the RAL market by 2050.

MLB expansion?? Charlotte, NC - Good option Montreal, CN - No to Canada Oakland, CA - Just lost their team, why go back? Nashville, TN - Best option Orlando, FL - can't fill seats in the other 2 FL baseball stadiums Portland, OR - disaster of a city Raliegh, NC - Decent option, very small market Sacramento, CA - Would cost $5B to build a $750M stadium Salt Lake City, UT - Good option, small market. Vancouver, CN - No to Canada If they were going to add 2 teams, I'd probably go with Nashville and either Salt Lake City or Charlotte.

@FlashShad0w I conclude that an overwhelming majority outside western society will vote red. So much so that voting blue is essentially suicide. I don’t want my kids to die but if they push red and I push blue, they become orphans.

Imo vous n'êtes pas forcément une merde si votre conclusion c'est de voter rouge Mais si vous votez rouge uniquement parce que vous estimez que c'est la chose que tout le monde fera, vous vous voilez la face

La première fois que j'ai vu ce dilemme, j'ai moi aussi instinctivement pris de haut les bleus en pensant qu'il fallait être teubé pour pas voter rouge Sauf que j'ai complètement oublié un détail important Une partie non négligeable de la population ne peut pas faire de choix

@FondOfBeetles “Every single poll” shows this outcome because you are mostly polling a certain subset of people (X users) living in western society. Blue wouldn’t survive the Central Asia/ME/Africa wave of voters/pollsters.

Reds are really annoyed that every single poll shows blues are gonna be fine, huh? How long does it keep repeating before they re-examine their priors?

@SydneyLWatson It isn’t a free market because you have no way of price shopping across different hospitals or clinics or medical providers. We got two wrapped up in healthcare reform, meaning moving to a single pair system instead of it meaning forcing everybody to display their pricing models.

Seen a lot of conversation about how predatory the American medical system is. So I will weigh in. I ended up going to the ER about 2 weeks ago for crippling pain. Turned out to be a ruptured ovarian cyst. I was there for MAYBE 4 hours. My bill? $13,500 dollars. Because I'm uninsured (by choice, that shit is a SCAM), the hospital dropped my bill down to $8,100 and some change as an "uninsured" discount. For starters, $13,500 for a 4 hour hospital visit is insane as it is. But the fact the hospital can wipe $5,000 off the bill "just because" should show you how utterly fucked this system is. And to be clear - $8,000 is still an absolutely insane sum of money when all these people did was scan my stomach and give me some pain killers. On my itemized bill, my CT scan was 7k. The iodine they used was $900. Just being in the ER room alone was $2,500. We phoned the hospital to haggle. They dropped the price by $20. Normal people can't survive this shit. I do okay and $8,000 is still an INSANE chunk of money out of my savings. Anyone who argues this isn't a disgusting, predatory system is crazy. And it is even crazier that Americans accept this. And for those of you who argue this is the free market, I need you to be quiet. There can never be a true free market here when government and insurance have their creepy little fingers in this pie. People shouldn't go bankrupt trying to pay medical bills. This has to change.

@plasmarob The only way for blue to win is to get more than 50% of the votes. Taken on a global scale I think there is a statistically 0% chance that western society has enough blue votes to make up for the way I project non-western societies are going to vote.

Can somebody who is still voting red explain their position to me without getting mad? (Preferably without saying I am mad, actually) I still don't get it

@lporiginalg I don’t think the blues model a global outcome vs a western civilization outcome. I don’t conceive a possible global survey where blue can win.

1. This is not a partisan experiment. The majority of Trump voters chose the blue button. 2. It's painfully obvious that reds are worse at mentally modeling blues than vice versa.

@BTCBreadMan You offer to pay for the base, he pays for the upgrades.

Took my 16 year old to look at cars today. At first he loved the Toyota Camry we looked at, but when he saw the seats were cloth he hard vetoed it. They have another one with leather seats, but it’s an XLE and costs $5k more. How can I change his mind so I can save some money?

@Unclemoat1 @therealgunbros Mine is 9mm.

@DavidModeel @therealgunbros In .40 like mine? lol fk him, that fat bearded douche goes to family reunions to find a Date his uncle's are probably all this cousins too lol

What If Your Kin Carried THIS Handgun? Wait till you find out who brought the green bean casserole to the cookout! #CookOut #Uncles #ConcealedCarry

@CraftingVegeto @grok Too many aren’t thinking beyond western society with their moral arguments. The button pushing is global in application. Life is cheap in large parts of the world.

Yo @grok what do you think of this

Okay, so after thinking about this red blue button dilemma for hours, here is where I landed lol At first glance, the correct pragmatic answer is obviously red. You survive no matter what. That part is still 100 percent true. Red is the logical self preservation move. You do not die no matter what the others do. But once you think deeper, you realize that blue actually has a strong moral and collective argument. Blue only needs "just" over 50 percent to save literally everyone, while red basically needs 100 percent for no one to die. So blue is the gamble that gives humanity the best shot at universal survival with the lowest bar. At the same time, tons of people are emotional as hell, not logical or pragmatic, and sadly a lot are straight up virtue signaling kings. That means there is a real chance we end up in that dangerous 40 to 49 percent blue zone where billions die and society collapses anyway. Even the survivors probably would not survive long after that. Good job everyone. So yeah, red is the logical self preservation move, and blue is the more morally correct gamble to try and save everyone. Both sides have a solid point. Having that said... Everyone on Twitter furiously shitting on the other side is an idiot. Blues calling reds selfish monsters are idiots. Reds who cannot even see the collective blue argument are idiots too. But here is the most important part imho. All of this is bullshit. This is just a Twitter thought experiment where everything is easy and fake. If this was real life, an actual button in front of you, and pressing the wrong one means you actually die, everything changes. Heart rate at 180, adrenaline spiking, shitting your pants. I firmly believe there is near 0 percent chance blue gets over 50 percent in a real scenario, which I am not saying is a good thing. All the virtue signaling idiots on the internet would secretly press red in a heartbeat. Sure, some actual idealists who care about the collective more than pure survival would still press blue, and sadly they would die. In a real terrifying dystopian situation like that, red is the only solution, and it sucks.

@ZPostFacto Blue pushers in the poll are mostly from western countries. They think they are being altruists by trying to save everyone without appreciating how little value human life has in much of the world. The red vote from Asia, ME, and Africa is going to overwhelm blue. Think globally

Imo, most of Team Blue totally understands Red's arguments, but they disagree with the framing or assumptions. otoh, most Red-pushers I've interacted cannot really articulate what the Blue position is. So they knock down a straw man. The replies to this post will prove it.

@HairyLeggdHarpy I wouldn’t. The “game” is not as advertised so now all outcomes are basically random.

Hey red button pushers After you've pressed red an evil goblin pulls away the red sticker you didn't notice concealing the blue button - you were distracted, you actually pressed blue. You're given the chance to persuade everyone else how to vote. What do you ask them to do?

@timsoret The blue choice assumes that saving everyone is a desirable outcome. Only in the west might that happen. Globally red will likely dominate.

In basic game theory, red is rational, and blue irrational, because red is always safe no matter the outcome, coordination or not. But red, while safe individually, risks the death of many irrational blue, which isn’t an optimal outcome. Therefore blue it is, to maximize the chances of saving them.

Assuming no possible coordination: If everybody was rational, we would all individually pick red & be safe without needing coordination, trusting that the sum of individual interests would lead to the most optimized outcome. Except that many humans are irrational & dogmatic, and driven by idealistic / empathetic concerns, would pick blue, even if that requires coordination which is not guaranteed & which puts them as risk. Knowing this, even if you’re initially inclined to vote red, the actual moral choice, to avoid the death of those willingly putting their lives at risk, is to vote blue to maximize the chances of saving everybody. In short, if you know that others are not perfectly rational agents, to save them you have to go along with their irrationality, which is counter intuitive.

@thereandjack @timsoret It would seem to explain the idea of suicidal empathy.

@timsoret And kind of an interesting commentary on the modern west, if you think about it too much. But what kind of games are we going to be subjected to next? What kind of players and precedence will suit us then?

@Gabe_D_Coleman @cosmiclibe57707 @Antweegonus And everyone who actually wanted to die is now forced to live.

Yes, but people defaulting to to emotional morality completely removed the logic from a logic puzzle. "But what if some people misunderstand?" Thats not how logic puzzles work. They implicitly require the assumption that all presented with the problem will understand. A misunderstanding is not a fault in the logic puzzle, but a fault in yourself. Adding additional hypotheticals is like complaining that the trolley problem doesn't account for track maintenance budgets. "What if I pull the lever, but maintenance didnt oil the switch, so it kills the people anyway?" It completely defeats the purpose of the question. Choosing blue is not "hoping for coordination to save humanity." It's you volunteering for death, with the only escape being that a majority of the planet must also volunteer for death. If they don't, you die. If they also choose the same quasi suicidal choice, you live. Not because of some greater moral good, but because enough people made the same bad default choice as you. People keep injecting nonexistent complications, hidden motives, and virtue-signaling into a straightforward hypothetical: "Do you choose certain life, or conditional death?" Most are defaulting to emotion instead of logic.

@peterrhague Blue is the lesser choice. Run the poll with non-polarized colors like yellow and green. Blue and red have political connotations that might taint the results.

Amazing how lots of self appointed game theory experts confidently asserting that blue is the stupid choice. But every time this poll is run blue wins. Not only is the “game theory” answer predicting the wrong outcome, its explanatory power is based on it being able to predict the right answer. So it’s doubly wrong.