inevitable carrot

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inevitable carrot

@DeferredFuture

the ballad of me and my pain

Katılım Aralık 2018

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·5m

@AnimMiles @douche_dud @moelovessza @Ghostgoober69 @WaashyV2 @screamsivann How is that her not being coercive though? If a man lied about their dad dying to win over a woman, and then repeatedly made advances on the woman until she gave in, that would also be viewed as rape. The nuance exists for sure, but the demon was in control of this whole thing

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AniMiles 🍉🇵🇸@AnimMiles·4h

@douche_dud @moelovessza @Ghostgoober69 @WaashyV2 @screamsivann This is immediately after he learned that she lied about her dad having cancer to stay with him. If his suspension of disbelief was strong enough to withstand that, he's a fucking idiot.

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Akaash :)@WaashyV2·16h

Works perfectly if you view it as a trauma response to the scene that just happened before Explains why she says ‘ I don’t like my dreams’

Film Crave@_filmcrave

Still recovering from that scene.

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·10m

@tempermentaIs The delusion is crazy 😭 Yall would actually despise the Bear actor. Stay away from that interview he gave to THR! Lmfao

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🍋‍🟩@tempermentaIs·8h

like think about it even when he inhaled those pills his selfishness made him gag so he could keep taking advantage of her “love” he was never ever going to let her go

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🍋‍🟩@tempermentaIs·8h

obsession was disturbing not because of the horror aspects but because you know there are men that would genuinely do the shit bear did

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·13m

@fullsunkth @finalgirlgorda It… was the one wish willow? How is wishing for “to be loved more than anyone else” asking for a literal fucking demon to possess her and cause her to murder people? You people have zero nuance lmfao

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g .♡@fullsunkth·5h

@finalgirlgorda it killed me because he held no responsibility the entire movie 😭 even when he told ian about it he insisted it was the one wish willow, not his own wish/actions

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cherry kitty ⋆˚ʚ🍒ɞ˚⋆@finalgirlgorda·9h

Thinking about how bear in obsession didnt take accountability the whole film even when hes telling the crystal shop owner he says “shes obsessed w me” turning it on her—like many men do “my ex is crazy,shes obsessed w/me” wholetime it was a trauma bond of codependency from abuse

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·15m

@finalgirlgorda @greekmethd But the wish he made did NOT mention anything about a demon coming into Nikki lmfao. If he said the real wish that still wouldn’t describe what was going on? You really can’t put this specific part on Bear. Keep in mind the Bear actor is also a bear apologist, btw

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cherry kitty ⋆˚ʚ🍒ɞ˚⋆@finalgirlgorda·3h

@greekmethd No he wasn’t being honest, he didnt tell the owner the WISH he made. he just said that…thats why the owner responds with “why is that bad?” Because wtf did you wish for bro?? the stick isnt cursed, its what you wish for & ur intent. Jesus, found another bear apologist

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·17m

@easleytw @LoonieLunas It’s just a stark contrast from the first night. If this was the directors intention, why explicitly include a scene of Bear denying Nikki the first night cus she wasn’t in the right headspace? Its possible Bear was scared of Nikki and was debatably coerced into sex.

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Tim Easley@easleytw·7h

@LoonieLunas How anyone can misread it is baffling. It was shot like a rape because IT WAS ONE. There was nothing titillating in it. It was stark and uncomfortable, rightly so. Bear wasn't even looking at her, just concerned with his pleasure.

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ash 🌙@LoonieLunas·13h

obsession spoilers // like there’s very much a reason the film smash cuts from bear and nikki in the restaurant to bear having sex with her like it’s a jump scare. the text is literally telling you that HE is the monster committing the monstrous act in that scene

ry@calroseee

SPOILERS… — Obsession yes is filled with grey areas and a complex character in bear. This is a movie that maybe dictated by your own perspectives and trauma. With all that said, it’s very obvious by the dinner scene that he has caught on and he decides to continue.

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·23m

@myahsfilm Eh this is just a guess there’s nothing in the movie to imply this is true

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ٍ@myahsfilm·6h

obsession spoilers! - - - FUCCKKKK i just realized nikki couldn’t even use a wish to undo everything if she wanted to because wish!nikki used her one already THIS IS SO FUCKED

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·24m

@evildeadburnt Why are you relating something as minor as an opinion on a film to an actual real life sexual harasser? Even the actor who plays Bear doesn’t think he’s 100% a villain. Everyone needs to chill it’s a movie

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Evil Dead Burn@evildeadburnt·5h

FinalGuyKris on the 🍇 scene In Obsession: “he wasnt entirely comfortable at first and turned her down. he thought she was interested im him and didnt think it was because of the wish.” He was later outed for sexually harassing women on horror film twitter by multiple women

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·27m

@norris_dea57305 @WilsonCleveland He didn’t mean to though 😭 Once a demon entered the picture, it’s completely out of his control

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Dean Norris@norris_dea57305·13h

@WilsonCleveland Fuck gender roles, you shouldn’t force someone to fall in love with you at all.

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Wilson Cleveland@WilsonCleveland·18h

Thought experiment if you’ve seen #Obsession. If the roles were reversed but the script & story stayed the same - so Nikki makes the wish and it’s Bear who gets trapped, would there be more, less, or similar doubt as to whether Nikki was the villain of the movie?

The Hollywood Reporter@THR

Michael Johnston on his #Obsession character being the villain: "I never thought of Bear as a villain...I do think that he leans more toward the bad in a lot of ways. But it was really important to keep the audience rooting for him in some ways." hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-f…

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·35m

@awooweewoo @yosemite_ham @aliasocfan The demon was not taking no for an answer and kept trying to force sex out of Bear. It was Bear who said no and kept trying to get away btw. The demon also was emotionally abusive to him as well and he was scared, and maybe felt like he had to

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Zippy 🇦🇲🇺🇦🇵🇸@awooweewoo·1h

@yosemite_ham @aliasocfan I don't remember a single point where Wish Nikki asked Bear for sex. If harm reduction were his intention (it's not) then he could just sleep near her to alleviate that stuff like the first night

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Anne@aliasocfan·19h

Correct. We hate the rapist more than a murderer.

Ty@TyriqFan

Yall hate the main dude from obsession but love the crazy girl from send help who murdered 3 innocent people 😭😭

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·36m

@remotely_sweet @metricmoves @aliasocfan In that scenario, the hooker would have to be evil who emotionally abuses you and coerced you into sex, and then that would be an accurate comparison. Let’s not act like this demon didn’t have the edge on Bear

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terra incognita 🔞@remotely_sweet·4h

@metricmoves @aliasocfan if i hypnotize you into thinking you're a hooker and i fuck your lil ass is it okay because it wasnt the real you?

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·40m

@iindiig00 @metricmoves @aliasocfan Yeah but the demon was also emotionally abusive to Bear and forcing herself upon him, that’s why this is slightly nuanced. You could argue Bear was coerced

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𝘪𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘨𝘰 🍒@iindiig00·8h

@metricmoves @aliasocfan are you a dumbass? he had sex with NIKKI’S BODY without her actual consent, it was confirmed (from what i’ve seen) that she’s trapped inside herself so she is basically being forced into sex with him which is rape

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·46m

@bedr0tbaddie @lucask741 He did try to cancel it after that though

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richiee ☆@bedr0tbaddie·17h

@lucask741 indeed because even when he called customer service, he asked how to alter a wish but not outright cancel it or change it to something completely different. its like he was ok with it all if he knew he could get away with everything hunky dory

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richiee ☆@bedr0tbaddie·19h

bear is the villain no matter which way u go about it. its not about his mistake of him misunderstanding the wish effect, its the fact that he took advantage of it despite knowing that it wasent nikki fully in control of her actions. many cues in the movie showcase this

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·1h

@RayNicolet @acehikmouyz @zoeyduatch Why are you upset over a movie

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Ray Nicolette@RayNicolet·1h

@DeferredFuture @acehikmouyz @zoeyduatch Get lost, loser

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raf@zoeyduatch·3d

OBSESSION SPOILERS the most horrifying, enraging and upsetting scene in the movie was actually when bear talks to the real nikki, she BEGS him to end her misery and instead of doing ANYTHING to help her he asks what’s so bad about being with him LIKE?

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·1h

@RayNicolet @acehikmouyz @zoeyduatch Like the fact you straight up said “he didn’t try at all” when he did, in fact, try, just shows you aren’t actually having a genuine conversation rn.

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·1h

@RayNicolet @acehikmouyz @zoeyduatch This is why we’re arguing btw. So now apparently, in your words, he did try. And you claim he didn’t want to, but he still asked to do so. He wouldn’t have asked if he didn’t want to. What are you not understanding

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·1h

@RayNicolet @acehikmouyz @zoeyduatch You got me there. My point still stands on the other thing though

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Ray Nicolette@RayNicolet·1h

@DeferredFuture @acehikmouyz @zoeyduatch His real name is Baron, you idiot. When Sarah finds out his cat died, she hugs him and says she’s sorry and then calls him by his real name, Baron. Bear is the nickname his friends call him. Seems to me you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about now.

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·1h

@RayNicolet @acehikmouyz @zoeyduatch His name is also Bear. The fact you misheard it countless times as “Baron” shows me you not hearing that line where he tried to cancel it, actually makes complete sense 💀

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·1h

@RayNicolet @acehikmouyz @zoeyduatch You are deadass wrong bro. He tries to alter it. Doesn’t work Then he tries to cancel it. Doesn’t work You must have missed that line where he tried to cancel it.

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·1h

@calroseee @BewareMoon …well. Because at this point in the movie, Bear was being emotionally manipulated and abused by entity Nikki, he was scared, and maybe felt like he HAD to have sex with her. It’s very nuanced. I don’t think it’s as black and white as you’re letting it on

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inevitable carrot@DeferredFuture·1h

@calroseee @BewareMoon The first night where Nikki tried to have sex with Bear he declined because she wasn’t in the right headspace. She kept making the advances. This scene was included for a reason. The fact the sex scene we see does NOT show any buildup of “how” it happened was intentional as…

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