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@DoBetter_

Agnostic. Ex-Mormon. LDS Critic, but I also encourage civil discourse. Trying to do and be better everyday. (Formerly went by 'Mormons Can Do Better')

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Do Better@DoBetter_·
Any LDS members that use the phrase "you can leave the church, but you can't leave it alone"... Please realize you are using the same playbook that JWs use to try to discount former members that become critics.
pimitopomo@pimitopomo

@MormonsDoBetter @stackerco JWs use phrases like “mentally diseased” or “they just can’t let it go” to discredit ex-members. The message is always the same: if you speak out, you’re the problem.

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@_tfTGS Eh, it kind of did change. The church focused on one method and many said the rock was just anti-Mormon fiction. Now, many members accept that the rock was the primary method of translation. That's a big change. And it's wild to me.
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Do Better@DoBetter_·
@_tfTGS Honestly, kind of, yeah. But that wasn't really the point of the post. What's wild to me is the change in how Mormons view the story. x.com/i/status/20347…
Do Better@DoBetter_

@HarkHugh I get the humor, and I'm glad Mormons can joke about it now. It's just wild that they feel comfortable doing that now, when this was a sentiment back in 2000:

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Tom Smith@TomSmith996·
@DoBetter_ It’s the better narrative because, if true, it precludes the possibility of notes, a rough draft, or any other supporting material being involved.
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Do Better@DoBetter_·
@_tfTGS Me? No. I'm an agnostic non-believer now.
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Do Better@DoBetter_·
@HarkHugh I get the humor, and I'm glad Mormons can joke about it now. It's just wild that they feel comfortable doing that now, when this was a sentiment back in 2000:
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Hugh Hark@HarkHugh·
@DoBetter_ It's called having a sense of humor. Try it sometime. lol
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Do Better@DoBetter_·
@FJWLDS Yeah, I don't believe any of those things. But it's especially wild for many of us to see Mormons embracing the rock in the hat because as late as 2000 BYU professors were calling it anti-Mormon fiction.
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FJW@FJWLDS·
@DoBetter_ Or: People healed by gazing upon a brass snake A talking donkey Strength in hair The parting of a sea Angels destroying armies Blindness healed with mud Real wild, huh 🤗 Concerning JS you forgot he also used: The swords of Laban Urim & Thummin Received direct revelation
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The idea that Jesus established a Church and then everyone immediately got it wrong for 1700 years is one of the wildest assumptions in Mormonism.
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ZelTheGreat@ZelTheGreatLDS·
This is God’s one true church. If it feels hard, that’s just your faith being tested.
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Troy Sariah@BlackBlessedLDS·
The Church is declining everyone. Slowly but surely. VBC said so.
VBC-Apologetics@VbcApologetics

@BlackBlessedLDS In any kind of organization, this sort of change - broadening the pool of potential draftees - typically signals a declining membership overall.

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Jamo@Jamo_12·
@RigdonNancy3 @ThoughtfulSaint Have you read that whole discourse before? If you read the paragraph, it puts this into context. That is a figurative statement. If you look at the policy of the time, most people in Utah weren’t even part of a polygamist family, yet had the same promised blessings.
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Do Better@DoBetter_·
@grok @stackerco @ArmagedonNearMe ... Also, the proportion of net worth that is made up of investments is likely much higher for LDS than JW and others. So if we just looked at reserves per self-identifying member, the LDS church would be even more of an outlier.
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Do Better@DoBetter_·
@grok @stackerco @ArmagedonNearMe I think there's a lot of nuance in those numbers. @stackerco , did you use total LDS net worth / reported membership? That would use an inflated denominator for LDS, whereas the peak publishers would undercount the true value of those identifying as JW for their denominator. ...
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Do Better@DoBetter_·
@IornJaw @jkimballcook Do you not realize that they would feel the same way in the rest of the world? If gov is mandating it, that's a problem, but do you have an issue w/ Chick-fil-A closing Sun instead of Sat? They'd have problems if they had a bunch of SDA or Jewish employees refusing to work Sat.
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The Working Patriot
My daughter is serving on the island of Palau. The president of Palau is a Seventh-day Adventist, and so are most of the job providers on the island. This makes it very hard for members who want to attend church on Sunday. It is sad that one religion dictates the working week of faithful Latter-day Saints; most of them are required to work on Sundays.
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Deseret Cactus •𐐼𐐯𐑅𐐨𐑉𐐯𐐻 𐐿𐐰𐐿𐐻𐐲𐑅• 🐝🌵
Oh no! A secret that has been public knowledge for 183 years, talked about in church literature for 60 years, prominent in polemics for 40 years, and has been on the website for somewhere between 5 and 15 years. Time for us all to be Catholics i guess.
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C. Wilson 🇻🇦@TomorrowsWar

Some may not know this but in 1843, there were some gentlemen in Kinderhook, Illinois who wanted to see if Joseph Smith could really translate ancient records the way he said he could. These men would decide that they would make six small brass plates, then they randomly scratched in fake ancient writtings on them, buried them in an old mound, and then would act as if they had just discovered buried treasure. Most importantly they would make sure a Mormon was there to tell Joseph about all about it right away. As excepted the plates were then sent to him in Nauvoo. He decided to look at them and would end up saying he translated part of them. Joseph Smith's exact words were "I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the ruler of heaven and earth." So from completely fake plates made to trick him, he ended up coming up with a whole ancient Egyptian family history and a divine kingdom story. Later those men would ultimately admit it was a hoax and tests in the 1980s would prove that the plates were indeed modern at his time. Ironically, even the LDS Church’s own magazine would eventually would say that it was a 19th century hoax and the LDS would officially state "...Chemical and metallurgical analysis of the one surviving plate confirms the artifact was not of ancient production. Moreover, the characters on the plates do not match any known language and were likely invented by Fugate and Wiley." For years people pointed to them as proof he could translate ancient things. After the facts came out, the LDS story would completely change and say things such as "he wasn’t really translating by revelation, he was just studying the characters." This is why we should be careful trusting any single person who claims exclusive new revelation or secret ancient records that only they can access and verify. The Bible warns us to test everything, to beware of false prophets who come in sheep's clothing and to hold fast to the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints. Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants may differ on some points, but we all agree that the foundation of Christianity is Jesus Christ, His life, death, resurrection, and the teachings handed down through the apostles and not on one man's private translations that fail even the basic tests. When extraordinary claims like this don't hold up, it reminds every Christian to stay rooted in the Gospel we share and that is salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

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Thoughtful-Faith@ThoughtfulSaint·
When you understand what temples do and ho economics work you will realize she is 1000% right. Temples are the greatest poverty alleviation program in the world.
Clint Teeples@TeeplesCY

Few people on the planet know more about humanitarian aid than Sharon Eubank. Here she addresses: – Problems aren’t solved with cash – Sustainable impact requires infrastructure – Temple work is the greatest poverty alleviation system in the world

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