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@albanianwave @AlbanianDNA You asking me? Serbs aren’t the Topic Albanian is IE , a mixed idiom which developed in the early Byzantine period from some form of PaleoBalkan

@DrRob82 @AlbanianDNA Serbs are very proud about their „cetina“ culture, can you explain to us what Serbs have in common with that ancient culture? And can you confirm, that Albanians are proto-Europeans or can you tell me where do we come from?

Our paper on the origin of the Albanians was published today by Nature Human Behaviour. We invite you to read it its entirety: nature.com/articles/s4156…. We thank our co-authors for their tireless efforts, as well as each project member and collaborator for their continuous help

As I said, that’s a minor side issue But Zolotarovka is not a typical Yamnaya site. Soviet archaeologists used to loosely call any kurgan site “early Yamnaya” loosely, repeated in Ghaliachi, and now the term has become your life motto. You’re even making Hats and tattooing yourselves 🤣 Suit yourselves. But you haven’t paused to think why later J2b2 is concentrated in a small circle @ Moldova

@DrRob82 @choppedincel @AlbanianDNA Your respond just tell us everything about your iq

@ushtar_i @choppedincel @AlbanianDNA You needn’t repeat your low IQ GeneArchiver fairy tales But that’s only of the fallacies in this paper

@DrRob82 @choppedincel @AlbanianDNA J2b-L283 has been found in Pre/Proto-Yamnaya site dating back to 3800bc and from various Yamnaya sites in Moldavia R1b-PF7563 was a minor yamnaya haplogroup and nobody doubt it as well as I2-M223 but as soon J2b-L283 pull out some of you start to cope like chimps

@Trelarat @AlbanianDNA Is that your way of asking for a free Boob job ? Fine

@DrRob82 @AlbanianDNA You are the "deleted" goat, right? Too bad… anyway, keep the breast up, doc 😉

@Trelarat @AlbanianDNA thank you random cartoon guy, but if I say it, then it is so

@DrRob82 @AlbanianDNA Saying it doesn’t make it so. Medicine usually prefers facts, you should know better.

@prodhuesi @IllyrianJ2bL283 @AlbanianDNA @grok

@DrRob82 @IllyrianJ2bL283 @AlbanianDNA @grok IGNORAMUS. IT PRACTICALLY USED THE AUTOSOMAL DNA FROM THE ANCIENT REMAINS AND COMPARED THEM TO THE MODERN POPULATION. IT PLOTTED THE CHANGES OVER TIME, WITH NO EFFECTIVE CHANGE AFTER 800-900 AD. JUST TAKE YOUR FKING TIME TO READ IT, BEFORE YOU SHOW HOW FUCKING STUPID YOU ARE!

@Trelarat @AlbanianDNA That's what I said

@DrRob82 @AlbanianDNA Is that so Dr. George?

@prodhuesi @IllyrianJ2bL283 @AlbanianDNA @grok @LeonidasDav Aka ArchetypeOne from FraudArchiver genarchivist.net/member.php?act… Fraudulent clown

There’s no original aDNA in the study, moron. And i’m not Serbian, this study is garbage written by Albanian amateurs (Davranoglu), who used fake genealogy project data and cherry picked stats from other peoples Publications. They then roped two other guys who otherwise have no interest or knowledge in the region in an attempt to legitimise their claims of exclusive west Balkans origins If you need to Lie to yourself , then you have no case. The study will be disproven by proper a/ DNA studies by legitimate scientific institutions, it’s already done

@SubstnceInStyle @FortressLugh Will appear in few more Gotho-Gepids also Which ancient DNA samples do the extant haplos link to?

@DrRob82 @FortressLugh I’m saying the Albanian*-specific J2b clades (near exclusive long row of 🇦🇱 + 🇲🇪 flags on Yfull) aren’t found in Cetina nor in Roman Illyricum or Moesia even. They’re cousin clades. But we do see them in Late Antiquity Carp/Pannonia area.

"we detect continuity of West Balkan Late Bronze and Iron Age ancestry in Early Medieval Albania, to a greater degree than in neighbouring Balkan regions. We find that present-day Albanians predominantly descend from this remnant palaeo-Balkan group..."

@SubstnceInStyle @FortressLugh Say that again? Are they Cetina specific ?

@DrRob82 @FortressLugh Not only that, but J2b clades are NOT created equal. The 2 known Albanian-specific meso-clades of J2b are absent south-west of the Danube in antiquity, but do show up in Carpatho-Pannonia (aDNA). Only Hoti tribe’s J2b can claim Illyrian fathers 😆 Someone call Sorin Paliga.

@kushtrimabdiu @tvojchalebrale @OfficialJovicic Peer review doesn’t imply accuracy Everyone in the Balkans has connection to the PaleoBalkan Bronze Age ancestry

@tvojchalebrale @OfficialJovicic @DrRob82 My DNA proof is pointless when peer reviewed studies support it. When you can literally spend a few hundred dollars and have your genes sequenced and then compared to ancient populations. But your words somehow are proof.

Very well said @DrRob82 the Yamnaya - Cetina continuity theory is, without original data, nothing more than a pipe dream. Their DNA “research” is a worthless piece of junk.

@ParvumPrincipi Yes the proto-Greeks flew from Ukraine to Hellas, thus able to bypass the Balkans Minoans weren’t “Greek”

The Proto Greeks were the Minoans and Mycenaeans. They never came from the balkans.

@tvojchalebrale @kushtrimabdiu @OfficialJovicic All Balkans has problems with objectiveness, due to recent conflicts. Bulgarians have little to do with original Bulgars, they were essentially wiped out by the Rus -Byzantine attack Modern Bulgarians are eastern Serbs and Macedonians

@kushtrimabdiu @OfficialJovicic @DrRob82 DNA without other direct proofs says nothing. Bulgarians have mostly Slavic DNA but they weren't originally Slavs. As I said before archeology doesn't confirm your claims either, and no documents from other people connect you with Illyrians, in fact not even Byzantine one.

@prodhuesi @IllyrianJ2bL283 @AlbanianDNA @grok Don’t cry madam It doesn’t matter where your authors are from, what matter is they understand the Topic They haven’t produced any data, and fudged that which already was published.

@DrRob82 @IllyrianJ2bL283 @AlbanianDNA @grok "the study authors have a poor understanding of southeastern Europe" -the study authors: 4 albanians, 3 greeks, 1 american, 1 polish(in australia) and 1 hungarian... We can all imagine the bias. Also, we can also imagine, SOMEBODY with a PhD BEING THIS FUCKING DUMB!

@dryscoop @4675hkn @beaker_the12224 Yugoslav archaeologists excavated numerous Illyrian sites since the 20th century., there was no political agendas. Any serious ex-Yugoslav scholar knows that Slavic languages came from the northeast. My judgement is crystal clear.

@DrRob82 @4675hkn @beaker_the12224 South Slavs pioneered larping Illyrians. You can’t even differentiate between a pan-South-Slavic cultural and political campaign to actual research. You are so dense and full of insecurity. Letting it cloud your judgement.

New study with information of the origins of the Proto-Albanian speakers. They are hypothesized to be from the Yamnaya.

In terms of a broader Paleobalkan continuity, then no issues. Albanians don't come from Circassia, or Mars. The issue here is the specifics, J2b2 isn't strongly associated with Yamnaya, Cetina doesn't really derive from Yamnaya, a lot of Illirycum was Romanized, there were significant migrations from central Balkan provinces toward Albania c. 500-600 AD, it is difficult to model similar competing ancestries with qpADm, some of the samples used in IBD comparison were limieted, ... Plus the authors were in good faith advised of all these issues beforehand. I critique any study , nothing personal against the Topic at hand

@DrRob82 @AlbanianDNA What issue do you have with the continuity theory? Honest question, throwing biases aside

@dryscoop @4675hkn @beaker_the12224 I was taught in Australia, nobody cares about Albanians here. FYI South Slavic scholars pioneered Illyrian studies, if it wasnt for them you'd know nothing. It was in Albania where Xoxha instituted regime-ffunded mass-'Illyrianization' of Albanian. Nice projection

@DrRob82 @4675hkn @beaker_the12224 You’re a south Slav, explains the rage behind the results, it goes against all the lies you were taught growing up

@dryscoop @4675hkn @beaker_the12224 I think you've got your puffer jacket on too tight. Get some oxygen

@DrRob82 @4675hkn @beaker_the12224 Nothing you said is accurate at all. You can’t even support what you say. It’s just full of anger