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@jmbrim3 Joseph's Myth was a conman and a fraud! - Said he translated an ancient language with a rock in a hat - Couldn't replicate the 116 lost pages - Got caught with Fanny Alger, then wrote D&C 132 - Saw some bones, named him Zelph - Destroyed the newspaper that exposed his polygamy

Joseph Smith is a prophet of God means The Book of Mormon is the word of God. The Book of Mormon being the word of God means Joseph Smith is a prophet. I know both of these statements are true independent of one another. I am also grateful to know if 1 is true, so is the other.

@david_g17 @the_jake_bastow LOL. Very interesting.

@the_jake_bastow So...do you believe this testimony? #Testimony" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">…rchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints.org/Law.htm#Testim…

In a world that demands evidence, God has always answered with witnesses. Jesus Christ Himself taught: “In the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.” (Matthew 18:16) And again: “The testimony of two men is true.” (John 8:17) This isn’t coincidence - it’s a divine pattern. So when @thebookofmormon comes forth, how does God introduce it? Not through one voice. And not even two voices - but MANY. - 3 witnesses saw an angel and heard the voice of God.
 - 8 witnesses physically handled the plates. 11 total witnesses. Independent. Consistent. Unwavering. Some later disagreed with Joseph Smith - but never denied their testimony. That matters. God didn’t leave this to blind faith. He established it according to the same law Jesus taught. Multiple witnesses. Different experiences. Unified testimony. That’s not coincidence - that’s confirmation. If you’ve never taken the promise in Book of Mormon seriously, now is the time. Read it. Ask God. And see if He adds His witness to theirs. Because truth doesn’t fear investigation - it invites it. #SaintsOnX #FloodXwithTruth #BookofMormon

@Sip_Dhit @Bobby_Clayson It's not a restoration of anything that Paul, Peter, James or Jesus ever did. So I guess you can do all that LDS temple stuff. But it's not a restoration. It's addition.

@Sip_Dhit @Bobby_Clayson So you think Peter went into the temple and baptised people in the Laver? Or Christians got married before the shewbread? The Bible tells us exactly what happened in the temple. To the point of what part of the fat to burn. Intricate details. And none of it is Mormon-ish

When was the last time you went to the temple and what did you learn?

@Sip_Dhit @Bobby_Clayson The idea that the LDS temples is a restoration of anything Christian is completely wrong. No first century Christians would recognize what the LDS do in their temples. It's all masonic stuff made up by Joseph Smith.

@Dred_DelGath @Bobby_Clayson You’re calling LDS temple worship “made up,’” but the Bible’s temple had sacred garments (Exodus 28), ritual washings (Exodus 30), and covenant signs (Genesis 17) The only thing you’ve really shown is that you’re super uninformed about this stuff and you’ve got a lot to learn

@stackerco Emperor Palpatine can sing better than I imagined.

This video destroys all memories I have about music. This can’t be Axl Rose.

@Sip_Dhit @justinjcrowder @EriePaWil The actions are not essential. The thief on the cross next to Jesus had no ability to even do actions, but Jesus told him he would be in paradise. That thief DID have faith. Saying, Remember me when you come into your Kingdom. Which means he understood that Jesus was the Messiah.

@Dred_DelGath @justinjcrowder @EriePaWil So if faith without action isn’t really faith or isn’t sufficient faith, does that not mean the actions are essential? Christ saves and not the actions, but does all that not mean the actions are essential?

They say “Latter-Day Saints don’t believe they are saved by grace” Many accuse us of believing that we are only saved by works. It’s clear that they haven’t read the Book of Mormon, but are repeating old lies. 2 Nephi 10:24 “Wherefore, my beloved brethren, reconcile yourselves to the will of God, and not to the will of the devil and the flesh; and remember, after ye are reconciled unto God, that it is only in and through the grace of God that ye are saved⁠.” Without the Atoning sacrifice, and the grace and gift of Christ, none of us would be saved! I invite you to read the Book of Mormon. With pure intent!

@justinjcrowder @EriePaWil Look, JC. You were nice enough on here. Most times the LDS start cussing at me. And you didnt do that. I made my point. I feel you failed to make yours. But I will let the handful of people who see our conversation decide between you and me.

@Dred_DelGath @EriePaWil Losing??? 😂 You got caught lying about the BoM! So was James lying??

@Sip_Dhit @justinjcrowder @EriePaWil Biblical Christianity lines right up with Matt 7:21 Those actions are proof that you really believed. They are the byproduct. And if you dont have those actions, it is proof that you dont believe. You didnt really think the house was on fire so you just stayed put.

@Dred_DelGath @justinjcrowder @EriePaWil Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

@justinjcrowder @EriePaWil They cannot BE saved. You know that, and I know that. They are not humans, and it does not work that way for them. You are just doing what all the LDS do on here. Obfuscate when you are losing an argument.

@Dred_DelGath @EriePaWil You didn't answer the question! Are the devils saved?? Even they believe!

@justinjcrowder @EriePaWil Bro! You just admitted to the twist! The idea that works are needed at all, or play any part, is not Biblical Christianity.

@Dred_DelGath @EriePaWil Faith alone won't save you either! James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

@justinjcrowder @EriePaWil The New Testament uses the Greek word for "Belief" and "faith" as the same word. They are derivatives of "pistis". So, you need to brush up on your original languages a bit. Too bad we dont have reformed egyptian around so we can dissect the BoM in the same ways.

@Dred_DelGath @EriePaWil You think belief is faith?? James 2:19-the devils also believe, and tremble. So are the devils saved??

@justinjcrowder @EriePaWil The LDS does, in fact, teach that it is not by faith alone. Now, you can believe whatever you want. I like that you believe it is by faith alone. I like that you disagree with Mormon prophets and apostles. You should continue to do that.

@Dred_DelGath @EriePaWil You were saying???

@justinjcrowder @EriePaWil Yes, belief (faith) alone is enough. Actions (works) are the byproduct of belief. If someone says the house is on fire, but you see no smoke or flames, yet you act and run. That action was the byproduct of believing in the message that the house was on fire.

@Dred_DelGath @EriePaWil What you fail to understand is the context of the quote. Pres Kimball is contrasting the difference between faith and belief here. Do you believe belief alone is enough??

@justinjcrowder @EriePaWil LOL. Thats your reply? I shared the difference between Nephi and Ephesians. Ive quoted several LDS general authorities. All you have is that this may not be official? Even though this is your prophet writing a book on doctrine? Why dont you quote a GA to back your position?

@Dred_DelGath @EriePaWil Ok you just lied and said that was in the BoM! The Miracle of Forgiveness is not found in the BofM!

@justinjcrowder @EriePaWil President Spencer W. Kimball: “One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation.” (From The Miracle of Forgiveness)

@Dred_DelGath @EriePaWil This is simply not true!

@EriePaWil There is a HUGE difference theologically here. BoM teaches that it IS of ourselves and not just a gift of God. That we get ourselves halfway. The Bible teaches its 100% Jesus and has zero to do with us.

@EriePaWil Mormonism is twistianity, not Christianity 2 Nephi 25:23 We know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do." Eph 2:8 By grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God Big difference between these two verses theologically

@Sip_Dhit @EriePaWil Nope. Take it up with your prophet. President Harold B. Lee: “The Savior’s blood, His atonement, will save us, but only after we have done all we can to save ourselves by keeping His commandments.”

@Dred_DelGath @EriePaWil Notice that 2 Nephi 25:23 literally says we’re saved by grace😂 If you read the surrounding verses instead of cherry picking verses others have told you about, you see that “after all we can do” is meaning “in spite of all we can possibly do” No difference theologically

@NealMaddy1 @EriePaWil I dont think so... President Harold B. Lee: “The Savior’s blood, His atonement, will save us, but only after we have done all we can to save ourselves by keeping His commandments.”

@Dred_DelGath @EriePaWil The after all is being used as an adverbial phrase. Giving the meaning despite what we can do. After is not a preposition in this context.