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@MikeyHamcheck @RaiderIO_WoW @LiquidGuild @EchoGuild No, world first is the first guild to kill it. There's no time zone adjustments or anything like that.

@RaiderIO_WoW @LiquidGuild @EchoGuild Doesn't echo technically have tomorrow to kill it as well to still be considered "world first" , since NA gets the patch a day earlier?

A HUGE new best from @LiquidGuild on Mythic Midnight Falls as they jump ahead to 3.54%... but @EchoGuild is hot on their heels with 10.43%, we're officially in "any pull now" territory for BOTH guilds! BOSS DIES TODAY! #rwf #warcraft twitch.tv/maximum/clip/B…

@nightstalker314 @Archimtiros The sequence is random, so you can't pre plan anything. And there is the potential for duplicate symbols

@nightstalker314 @Archimtiros They're up for maybe 1 second. There's 5 symbols shown to groups of the raid in 3 different realms. So realm A will only see symbols 1 and 4, realm B would see 2 and 5, and realm C sees only 3. You have a few seconds to have all players go to their positions before the beam.

Hotpot Hero (lead CN guild) beat Belo’ren, but are struggling to progress on Midnight Falls without the memory game addon other world first guilds are using. It’s not just an advantage for such a tight encounter, it’s a practical necessity. So much for a more even playing field.

@namekianprince @vampsob World bosses were changed to always give loot on the first kill each week. But it's a random warbound piece for any armor type. It's not a bug, it's how they changed it to remove the need to run every alt through the world boss each week.

@vampsob Idk if this is broken or just Blizz being Blizz, but I have yet to have a world boss drop something useful to the toon I'm currently on. I keep getting Caster and clothie stuff as a havok DH 🫠 it's been too many times to be a fluke, right?

RNG is bugged, mechanics are bugged, crafting is bugged, classes are bugged. This season is such a shitshow. At what point do you take a step back and realize that 8 week cycles are too much for you to handle. I'd rather wait a bit longer for content than deal with this.

@bodega321 @coL_Fantasy So NA spends most of their raid day unnerfed and EU gets a whole raid day with an easier boss?

@coL_Fantasy Or they could wait to nerf it until 5 PM before they go home. Problem solved

Okay, I'll bite. I explain nerf timings for y'all. The work hours in California started. There. There u have it.

@Renberg96 @coL_Fantasy Yes, but that leads to NA spending most of their raid day in the unnerfed state and EU getting to hop straight into a nerfed version. Unless EU was ahead by a day already that means they get an easier boss.

@coL_Fantasy Im no expert but couldn't they like release the hotfix closer to 4am EU time?

@Sorow34wba @coL_Fantasy @TheCkbeast They should make changes after each guild has the same time. Which they did. Both guilds progged for 1 full day with the fast glaives. Why would it make it fair if NA does 2 days and EU only had one? That should tarnish EU wins then.

@coL_Fantasy @TheCkbeast Honestly, Blizzard should have given Europe this advantage. NA already benefits from the game's release... From my point of view, Blizzard's strategy only tarnishes Liquid's success and serves no purpose for them.

@Mutant43860829 @Wowhead Yeah, both guilds spent a full day of prog before the nerfs. Shocker.

@Wowhead Haha ofc they did when eu is go to sleep

Blizzard has nerfed the Mythic L'ura encounter for the Race to World First! #Midnight #Warcraft wowhead.com/news/mythic-lu…

@Thevilleq @Wowhead You mean nerfing after both guilds have spent a full day? Wow.

@Wowhead BLIZZARD NERFING WHEN ECHO IS STOPING #NABLIZZARD

@ammertos @Wowhead Liquid already spent a full raid day progging on April 3rd. So both guilds have now done a full day before the nerfs happen.

@Wowhead Blizzard really tries hard to give Liquid any advantage they can find. Echo mastered P1 while Liquid didn't. The timing is also perfect. Wait until Echo's raid day is almost over and nerf it exactly when Liquid starts their raid for the day. It's just ridiculous.

@Crisp1337 @Wowhead More gear won't solve the one shot issues.

@Wowhead Why even nerf in the first place...just leave it..they just need more gear..if it takes one more rest why not

@beto6497 @Wowhead Liquid already spent a full day on the unnerfed version too.

@Wowhead So Echo spent their entire day playing unnerfed p1 trying to get to p2 and now liquid gets to spend their entire day on a nerfed? Hm.

@IbonMGen I looked at the FF mechanic. Seemw like you have significantly longer to deal with it. Which makes it much easier to confirm. On Lura you habe to order yourself quickly.

De todas formas, esta mecánica no es tan complicada como la están pintando. No se están cargando la experiencia.

Os faltan horas sin addons en wow. Haced macros que escriban en el chat y solucionado. Mirad Idyllic Dream: mecánica similar, muchísimo más complicada de memorizar, la comunidad de FF14 la resolvió sin addons.

@Zorthas @Jet_Limit1 M Beloren, sure. Light nerfs are fine. But M Lura? Outside of the top few guilds currently working on it there's no way an extra week of gear does anything. Most guilds don't have addon devs to make these custom addons needed to handle this fight reasonably.

@Jet_Limit1 no because they could nerf the bosses less in the last 3 tiers they messed up the difficulty curve leading to hundreds of guilds being on the wall boss this tier they SHOULD only need to put out a minor nerf for ~50 guilds progging with an extra week of gear next week

Guilds ranked 4-15 probably go to bed fantasizing about lynching the top 3 guilds with the way blizzard tunes rwf based on seemingly pure entertainment purposes

@FlakeSamael @Suplift With the way Blizz' UI is, absolutely not.

@Suplift Because they tuned it for add ons still. They need to just turn off api calls inside raids. Let add ons run for 99% of the game and population but raid no api calls

I thought no addons meant the game would be easier? Why does lura look like a 1k pull boss

@Sleps321 @EchoGuild Right? We should just all use sneak.lua like thr Europeans do, not WeakAuras.

@EchoGuild Standard América honestly

Definitely not Weakaura.

@JibbbChapo @Grivelame @EchoGuild If sneak.lua didn't affect Echo then nothing this tier will even become a blip on the radar viewership wise.

Schrodingers ToS situation. They are not breaking it well breakaing it at the same time. They think they're so clever. But unforutantly they dont have enough foresight to see how this will affect their brand and future races. The majority reaction to this is people are pisised, how much respect did the lose for this. Way less viewers next time around , less hype, less sponsors. These guys probably just cheated themselves out of the best job they'll ever have.

@Thevilleq @jamesclamar @sweggles1 Blizz OKed all their addons and API use beforehand. Literally not cheating.

@jamesclamar @sweggles1 They hotfixed and liquid changed the code so basically addon is still up.and theyre still cheating

Even if Liquid wins this tier I am not going to consider it an NA win. Echo is forced to use these cheater WeakAuras just to compete because Liquid can't do the mechanics the way that Blizzard intends. It's pathetic😂 this level of cheating should be ban worthy honestly

@siegdjffermin @spellingbxd @sweggles1 So, you don't actually know then, got it

@spellingbxd @sweggles1 Using a brain, 2 eyes and 2 hands

@KrystalFarr3 @im_revatha They didn't ban Echo for sneak.lua, so they're not going to ban Liquid for using addons they told Blizz about and got OKed.

@im_revatha If blizzard doesn't ban this guild now, they are proving that the RWF guilds have a different set of rules protecting them.

THEY FIXED THEIR CODE TO WORK AROUND BLIZZARDS HOTFIX, YOU CANT BE SERIOUS LOL