Christoph Schlegel

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Christoph Schlegel

Christoph Schlegel

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Katılım Şubat 2022
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Christoph Schlegel
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@Bjoern__M Still ridiculous when defence experts find objectionable content in a 29 page law months after having access to the draft. Either they did not read it. Or they did not disagree with the draft when reviewing. MPs need to be serious. Taking cheap shots is self-defeating.
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Björn Müller
Björn Müller@Bjoern__M·
A belated reaction. However, the Greens are effectively having to shoulder the entire burden of opposition work on security policy in #Germany's Parliament; the AfD and the Left are a complete failure.
dpa news agency@dpa_intl

Germany's Green Party is calling on the government to clarify a rule that requires men aged between 17 and 45 to obtain authorization from the military for extended stays abroad of more than three months. nordot.app/14135636403083…

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Rep. Don Beyer
Rep. Don Beyer@RepDonBeyer·
Like everyone else, I had to check that this was real. Sadly it is. The president is having an Easter Sunday freak out and threatening civilian infrastructure.
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Andreas Moser
Andreas Moser@AndreasMoser007·
Die Leute, die jetzt schon wegen der Wehrüberwachung austicken, werden sich wundern, wenn sie Art. 12a GG mal ganz durchlesen.
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Christoph Schlegel
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@PaNurX1 @Gabriel64869839 @Leopard24theWin All true. With France leaving, 20% of the production run will be lost (12 out of 60 drones). I do not know the business case for the programme, but it does not look like a catastrophic hit. And development should be almost complete, with first flight next year.
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PN1@PaNurX1·
@FoxTwo2022 @Gabriel64869839 @Leopard24theWin Whatever they achieved by cert. the level of safety of the twin engine config is superior. A very expensive asset flying overwater is better would be twin engine too. This is why Japan and India are observer. The Avio Ge engine is civil certified and with low level of noise.
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Gabriele Molinelli
Gabriele Molinelli@Gabriel64869839·
France pulling out of EURODRONE for real this time, it seems. Twice now France killed off or at least abandoned plans for a collaborative european MALE, first the one with the UK, Telemos, and now dropping out of EURODRONE too.
CABIROL MICHEL@MCABIROL

Actualisation de la LPM : ni Rafale, ni frégates de 1er rang, ni chars supplémentaires @Elysee @Matignon @Armees_Gouv @DGA @CaVautrin @armeedeTerre @Armee_de_lair @MarineNationale @EtatMajorFR @GifasOfficiel @GICAT_FR @Gican_InduNav @AJDPresse @AJPAE latribune.fr/article/defens…

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Christoph Schlegel
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@Rob_Roos Nope. The old West Germany. The law is, word for word, the same as it was from 1956 - 2011. And fully in line with Art 12a GG of the German constitution, which requires German males to serve in the army when called upon. Check for yourself: gesetze-im-internet.de/gg/art_12a.html And here:
MrBaurecht@MrBaurecht

@NiemaMovassat Das ist die Fassung nach Aussetzung der Wehrpflicht. Bis dahin galt die Regelung auch außerhalb des Spannungs- und Verteidigungsfalls. Hier der Text aus 2008: buzer.de/gesetz/5521/al…

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Rob Roos 🇳🇱
Rob Roos 🇳🇱@Rob_Roos·
The shadows of East Germany don’t belong in today’s Europe, but they’re starting to reappear.
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Christoph Schlegel
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@jwiechers Take a look at Art 12a GG. Draft is part of the foundational articles of the German constitution. Part of the DNA of the country. And of course, the government has the right to enact the articles of the constitution. The law is the same as before 2011. Old times, not fiction:
MrBaurecht@MrBaurecht

@NiemaMovassat Das ist die Fassung nach Aussetzung der Wehrpflicht. Bis dahin galt die Regelung auch außerhalb des Spannungs- und Verteidigungsfalls. Hier der Text aus 2008: buzer.de/gesetz/5521/al…

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⬢ Jens Wiëchers@jwiechers·
> Men can still leave. They simply have to inform the authorities if they plan to be gone for longer stretches. Hardly the stuff of dystopian fiction Do you fucking hear yourself? Yes, that's *exactly* the stuff of dystopian fiction.
Vicky Richter🇩🇪🇺🇸🇧🇷🇬🇧@VickyRichterUSA

Germany’s “Harsh Measures”? Or the Price of Cleaning Up Someone Else’s Mess Everyone is suddenly terribly concerned. Germany introduces a bureaucratic requirement—military-age men who leave the country for extended periods must register—and the reaction is immediate: hysteria, headlines, dramatic warnings about freedom collapsing overnight. One would think Berlin had sealed the borders. It hasn’t. Men can still leave. They simply have to inform the authorities if they plan to be gone for longer stretches. Hardly the stuff of dystopian fiction—unless, of course, one’s business model relies on panic. But context, as always, is inconvenient. Because this isn’t happening in a vacuum. It’s happening in a geopolitical environment increasingly shaped by a single recurring pattern: Washington creates the storm, and Europe is expected to build the shelter. Another intervention here. Another escalation there. Another “strategic move” without a visible endgame. And every time, Europe—Germany included—is left to absorb the consequences. For decades, Berlin played along. Loyal, compliant, reliably aligned. If Washington moved, Germany followed. If Washington escalated, Germany explained. A very dependable arrangement—until it wasn’t. Now the bill has arrived. And suddenly, Germany is expected to secure itself in a world that has grown far less stable—ironically, in part because of the very system it helped sustain. So yes, measures are being discussed. Structures are being tightened. The Bundeswehr is being rebuilt. And administrative controls—however unglamorous—are part of that reality. This is not ideology. It is consequence. Yet what makes the current outrage almost amusing is its selective blindness. The same voices that cheered Europe’s dependence now recoil at Europe’s independence. The same commentators who demanded Germany “do more” are now alarmed that it might actually start doing exactly that. And then there’s the deeper, rather uncomfortable question few dare to articulate. Germany has spent years handing out citizenship with remarkable generosity. A diverse, modern state—so the story goes. But if responsibility follows rights, one wonders how many of these newly minted citizens will remain quite so enthusiastic when obligations—real ones—enter the conversation. Call it a stress test. Or, if one prefers a more provocative phrasing: an unintended filter. Because it is one thing to claim a country. It is quite another to stand for it. And perhaps that is the quiet subtext no one wishes to explore too loudly. Still, the broader point remains unchanged. Germany is not acting in isolation. It is reacting—belatedly—to a world in which strategic stability has been replaced by permanent crisis management, often driven from afar. A world where decisions are made quickly, force is applied generously, and long-term consequences are… outsourced. Usually to Europe. So Berlin adjusts. Carefully, imperfectly, but necessarily. Because dependence is no longer a luxury it can afford. And if that means introducing measures that, in calmer times, might have seemed excessive—then so be it. After all, when someone else keeps playing cowboy on the global stage, you eventually learn to lock your own doors. Germany is not overreacting. It is adapting to a reality it did not create— but can no longer ignore.

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Christoph Schlegel
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@VLS_Appreciator Based in b Trappier‘s latest statements, not everybody has received the memo. Maybe you can technically do it in a strictly Franco-French setup. Economically, I doubt it. Between SNLE3G, ASN4G, M51 and TNO follow-on, PANG, there are too many higher priorities than F5 AND SCAF.
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VLS Enjoyer
VLS Enjoyer@VLS_Appreciator·
Le financement du Rafale F5 seul du fait de l’échec des négociations avec les Émirats pèse déjà lourdement sur l’actualisation de la LPM, alors imaginez ce que coûterait le développement d’un système franco-français hors SCAF.
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Philippe Top-Action@top_force

⚓️✈️🪖🇫🇷 #LPM2024_2030 Actualisation de la programmation militaire : ni #Rafale, ni frégates de 1er rang, ni chars supplémentaires. Format des #Armées inchangé. Arbitrages latribune.fr/article/defens…

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Christoph Schlegel
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@giulio_mattioli No. Parliament creates laws and the executive branch determines how to apply them. If the executive seems not to be applying the law properly, citizens can sue the executive branch, there is a whole class of courts for this. Parliament can change the laws. This is not 1984.
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Giulio Mattioli
Giulio Mattioli@giulio_mattioli·
@FoxTwo2022 So it all boils down to the trust that you feel towards your leader that they are well-intentioned.
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Giulio Mattioli
Giulio Mattioli@giulio_mattioli·
This is a masterclass in German Kafkaesque bureaucracy. The law says men between ages 17-45 must get permission from the government to be abroad for more than 3 months. But the *government says* that the permission will always be granted 🤦‍♂️ focus.de/politik/deutsc…
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Christoph Schlegel
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@PaNurX1 @Gabriel64869839 @Leopard24theWin Fair enough on MTOW/payload. Disagree on civil aerospace integration, both are fully certified according to STANAG 4671 - GHTP in 2022, MQ-9B in 2025. If there is significant operational benefit, let‘s hope the procurement for GE, IT and ES will move forward.
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PN1@PaNurX1·
@FoxTwo2022 @Gabriel64869839 @Leopard24theWin Not the same size (ED MTOW above 12t) and therefore not the same persistence over target far from the MoB . MQ-9 snd Heron TPs gap fillers, single engine with restricted ops over poulated areas.
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Christoph Schlegel
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@giulio_mattioli On this point: there seem to be 3 versions of the law: pre-2011, 2011-2026, current version. The pre-2011 and current version seem to be functionally identical. My point stands: much ado nothing. MPs should read the laws they vote on and raise their concerns during debate.
MrBaurecht@MrBaurecht

@NiemaMovassat Das ist die Fassung nach Aussetzung der Wehrpflicht. Bis dahin galt die Regelung auch außerhalb des Spannungs- und Verteidigungsfalls. Hier der Text aus 2008: buzer.de/gesetz/5521/al…

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Giulio Mattioli
Giulio Mattioli@giulio_mattioli·
@FoxTwo2022 What's different is that it now applies even outside of emergencies.
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Christoph Schlegel
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@Gabriel64869839 Might be referring to the A17 „interim boat“? Contract signature in 2026 and delivery in 2030 would be faster than the first U212CD for Norway, and these are coming off a hot production line. Plus, have even any long-lead items been ordered?
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Gabriele Molinelli
Gabriele Molinelli@Gabriel64869839·
How Poland is supposed to get an A26 in 2030 when the ones long in build for Sweden itself are expected to be delivered well after that remains mysterious to me, but we'll see.
Krystian Pograniczny 🇵🇱 | Defence • Hydrology@Krystian_Pogr

Wiele wskazuje na to, a strona szwedzka 🇸🇪 zapewnia, że pierwszą „Orkę”🐬 w @MarWojRP 🇵🇱 zobaczymy już w 2030 roku. Polska 🇵🇱 przygotowuje się do realizacji programu „#Orka”🐬, w ramach którego planowany jest zakup trzech nowoczesnych okrętów podwodnych typu #A26 🇸🇪. Jednostki te zostaną zbudowane przez szwedzki koncern @Saab 🇸🇪, a konkretnie w jego stoczni Saab @kockums_io / Saab Naval 🇸🇪. Zgodnie z deklaracjami producenta, pierwszy okręt ma zostać dostarczony już w 2030 roku. Współpraca pomiędzy Polską 🇵🇱 a Szwecją 🇸🇪 została formalnie zainicjowana poprzez podpisanie umowy międzyrządowej. Obecnie trwają końcowe negocjacje kontraktu, które (według zapowiedzi) mogą zakończyć się wiosną lub latem 2026 roku. Istotnym elementem projektu jest udział krajowego przemysłu obronnego, w tym @PGZ_pl 🇵🇱, która ma uczestniczyć zarówno w budowie, jak i późniejszym utrzymaniu okrętów. Produkcja jednostek będzie realizowana w Karlskronie 🇸🇪 głównej bazie szwedzkiej marynarki wojennej i kluczowym ośrodku przemysłu stoczniowego. Tamtejsza infrastruktura została rozbudowana, aby umożliwić jednoczesną budowę kilku okrętów podwodnych. Łącznie planuje się budowę 5 okrętów typu A26 🇸🇪 – 2 dla Szwecji 🇸🇪 i 3 dla Polski 🇵🇱. Dodatkowo Polska 🇵🇱 ma otrzymać tymczasową jednostkę typu A17 🇸🇪 (tzw. „gap filler”), która pozwoli utrzymać zdolności operacyjne do czasu wejścia do służby nowych okrętów. Jednostka ta, mimo wieku, jest w lepszym stanie technicznym niż obecnie eksploatowany ORP „Orzeł” 🇵🇱 Źródło: gospodarkamorska.pl/szwedzka-stocz… Fotografia: #Damen

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Christoph Schlegel
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@giulio_mattioli True. Stated intent of the government per quote in the SPIEGEL article is what we have until now. No reason to doubt it, though. It is an on-the-record statement by the BMVg. Given they are still writing the Ausführungsvorschriften, this is the best info there is at this time.
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022

@giulio_mattioli On (1) A) permission will always be granted only while military service is voluntary: „Wir werden aber durch Verwaltungsvorschriften klarstellen, dass die Genehmigung als erteilt gilt, solange der Wehrdienst freiwillig ist“ spiegel.de/politik/deutsc… /1

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Giulio Mattioli
Giulio Mattioli@giulio_mattioli·
@FoxTwo2022 Nothing in the law says that it will be granted as a standard. There's only a minister statement to the media to that extent. And that has no legal value.
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Christoph Schlegel
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@VogelFriedemann Es wäre halt nur Arbeit für die Reisenden, denn die Anträge werden ohne Prüfung genehmig. Aus dem zitierten SPIEGEL Artikel: »Wir werden aber durch Verwaltungsvorschriften klarstellen, dass die Genehmigung als erteilt gilt, solange der Wehrdienst freiwillig ist.«
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Friedemann Vogel
Friedemann Vogel@VogelFriedemann·
Liebe Leute, wir sollten dieser Pflicht umfassend nachkommen. Am besten wöchentlich. Es gibt schließlich immer gute Gründe für einen längeren Auslandsaufenthalt, die die Behörden sorgfältig prüfen sollten. 😌
DER SPIEGEL@derspiegel

Wenn Männer zwischen 17 und 45 Jahren länger als drei Monate verreisen, müssen sie sich grundsätzlich eine Genehmigung der Bundeswehr einholen. So besagt es das Wehrpflichtgesetz seit Jahresbeginn. #ref=rss" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">spiegel.de/politik/deutsc…

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Christoph Schlegel
Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@AlexLuck9 @FTusa284 I wonder how lout the outcry will be when people discover Art 12a, Art 17a and Art 115h GG. What is apparently new is that pre-2011, you only needed to apply for permission to leave Germany for extended periods during Spannungsfall, i.e., in times of crisis.
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Francis Tusa
Francis Tusa@FTusa284·
If memory serves me well, this has been the case in Finland for quite some time. Also, IIRC, Finns who go overseas and try to evade national service registration have their passports cancelled, invalidating any visas they had.
Vicky Richter🇩🇪🇺🇸🇧🇷🇬🇧@VickyRichterUSA

Germany’s “Harsh Measures”? Or the Price of Cleaning Up Someone Else’s Mess Everyone is suddenly terribly concerned. Germany introduces a bureaucratic requirement—military-age men who leave the country for extended periods must register—and the reaction is immediate: hysteria, headlines, dramatic warnings about freedom collapsing overnight. One would think Berlin had sealed the borders. It hasn’t. Men can still leave. They simply have to inform the authorities if they plan to be gone for longer stretches. Hardly the stuff of dystopian fiction—unless, of course, one’s business model relies on panic. But context, as always, is inconvenient. Because this isn’t happening in a vacuum. It’s happening in a geopolitical environment increasingly shaped by a single recurring pattern: Washington creates the storm, and Europe is expected to build the shelter. Another intervention here. Another escalation there. Another “strategic move” without a visible endgame. And every time, Europe—Germany included—is left to absorb the consequences. For decades, Berlin played along. Loyal, compliant, reliably aligned. If Washington moved, Germany followed. If Washington escalated, Germany explained. A very dependable arrangement—until it wasn’t. Now the bill has arrived. And suddenly, Germany is expected to secure itself in a world that has grown far less stable—ironically, in part because of the very system it helped sustain. So yes, measures are being discussed. Structures are being tightened. The Bundeswehr is being rebuilt. And administrative controls—however unglamorous—are part of that reality. This is not ideology. It is consequence. Yet what makes the current outrage almost amusing is its selective blindness. The same voices that cheered Europe’s dependence now recoil at Europe’s independence. The same commentators who demanded Germany “do more” are now alarmed that it might actually start doing exactly that. And then there’s the deeper, rather uncomfortable question few dare to articulate. Germany has spent years handing out citizenship with remarkable generosity. A diverse, modern state—so the story goes. But if responsibility follows rights, one wonders how many of these newly minted citizens will remain quite so enthusiastic when obligations—real ones—enter the conversation. Call it a stress test. Or, if one prefers a more provocative phrasing: an unintended filter. Because it is one thing to claim a country. It is quite another to stand for it. And perhaps that is the quiet subtext no one wishes to explore too loudly. Still, the broader point remains unchanged. Germany is not acting in isolation. It is reacting—belatedly—to a world in which strategic stability has been replaced by permanent crisis management, often driven from afar. A world where decisions are made quickly, force is applied generously, and long-term consequences are… outsourced. Usually to Europe. So Berlin adjusts. Carefully, imperfectly, but necessarily. Because dependence is no longer a luxury it can afford. And if that means introducing measures that, in calmer times, might have seemed excessive—then so be it. After all, when someone else keeps playing cowboy on the global stage, you eventually learn to lock your own doors. Germany is not overreacting. It is adapting to a reality it did not create— but can no longer ignore.

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Christoph Schlegel@FoxTwo2022·
@giulio_mattioli C) None of this is new, it has been common practice until 2011. Draft in 🇩🇪 has only been put on hold, never abolished. All laws pertaining to the subject, starting with the German constitution, are in the public domain. Citizens should, media+lawmakers must read them. /end
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