I’ve seen the quoted comment below a few times so I’ll quickly address it here. I suspect someone has taken what was said out of context, trying to make a big deal out of it for attention.
The 9800X3D and all 3D V-Cache parts really are far less sensitive to memory performance and in the vast majority of games will deliver similar performance without even having to load memory profiles. Does that apply to every single game? Probably not! Does it apply to the vast majority of games? Yes!
ALSO I never said the exact same performance, “You don’t go into your BIOS and load your memory profiles and you’ll get performance that is very close to what is seen in reviews, which is pretty wild because never before have we really seen a CPU where that is the case” For the most part that is correct. Non 3D V-Cache parts like the 9700X for example are much more memory sensitive and will see a much more significant performance decrease when not loading memory profiles.
@bbgvnny@HardwareUnboxed@fyslalq89876404 No one is talking about the cost here but the capabilities of each platform. If you want to go that route, you don't even need Apex but 2 Dimm board from ASRock that is ~$250 and can do DDR5 8400. X3D has Apex board too.
@HardwareUnboxed@fyslalq89876404 In my own testing 8/10 13900k will do DDR 8000 C36 on two dimm boards such as Asus Apex, or Gigabyte Tachyon X. My 14900KS does 8200 C36 on Apex and my other testing showed that 10/10 14900K/KS will do 7800-8000 C34-C36 on those boards. Really good 14900KS silicon will do 8800
Okay I'll make you a deal. You provide me with your timings and I'll make the content. Then when someone finds your settings unstable or flat out don't work, you can buy them a new CPU. Why place the onus on AMD and Intel to guarantee their spec when we can put it on you, ohh wise overclocker.
Also we have made that sort of content plenty of times in the past, you're not gifted, sorry! youtube.com/watch?v=RTmbYa…
@HardwareUnboxed@fyslalq89876404 Most of the overclocks people post about all the time are almost always never actually stable outside of their cherry picked benchmarks. Also no one cares if your 450 watt peak power draw 14900k barely beats an X3D chip drawing 100 watts`
@GamersNexus@JayzTwoCents I would too because you guys have no f. idea how to test anything properly and as I said before spreading misinformation. Kudos to AMD and I hope Intel, Nvidia and everyone else does the same.
@JayzTwoCents The key, as we said, is that AMD has totally stopped responding to any and all questions for us, now going back months, including simple questions about drivers. That's not just a CPU sample limitation. That is an information blackout.
Just to put some extra info out there, I don't think Gamers Nexus was specifically targeted or "Blacklisted" from the 9950X3D2 launch. I've talked with several of the "usual suspects" for reviews when things launched and no one received early info or samples, including us.
This doesn't mean no one was, but it definitely means this wasn't part of a typical release cycle. I suspect this is more of a situation where AMD knows this CPU is really lackluster in typical use case scenarios and didn't put much fanfare around it.
This is only speculation but again, as much as I know Steve sees it as a badge of honor to get blacklisted, but I strongly doubt that's the case.
@JayzTwoCents Honestly, I hope all these companies stop sending any samples to anyone including Gamers Nexus because you guys have been spreading misinformation and nothing else. Your guy's review is not good, misrepresentation of real product performance and such.
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@tomshardware 14900K/KS is faster than 9800X3D in gaming as well. You people don't even know how to setup system properly. I bet 14900K is running on DDR5 6000 and 270K on 7200, where it should be DDR5 7800-8000 and 8800 respectively.
@tomshardware Misinformation. 14900K is better gaming chip than 7800XD and so 270K. It is AMD that is constantly trying to catch up with Intel -> Raptor Lake.
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@ExtremeTech It is not all about cache. My 14900KS still performs better than Zen 5. In case of chiplet design Intel got it right, AMD got it all wrong. And this is why Nova Lake is going to be untouchable.