@ZNT22_ @Moe__Syzlak LOL Romas and Visigoths were berber too? You are sating nonsense, please. Zionist entity? Created by the French? What on Earth are you talking about? LOL
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@Funtivoman
Lingüista👅 Logopeda💬 Profesor🧠 Manners maketh man.🎩 -Los hombres libres tienen ideas, los sumisos tienen ideologías- (Teócrito) 📚
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@Funtivoman @Moe__Syzlak Carthagians were Berbers , Ceuta was always Berber under Berber control under Muslim Berbers or independent Berber kingdoms and rulers like count Julian or with Muslim Berber dynasties , before your Zionist entity created by the French
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L’Algérie 🇩🇿 « anticoloniale » soutient l’occupation espagnole 🇪🇸 à Ceuta 🇲🇦 et Melilla 🇲🇦 occupées
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Ceuta n'est pas un territoire espagnol au Maroc mais en Afrique, c'est déjà suffisant pour être constatable. Maintenant, ceux qui revendiquent ce territoire assument et envoient leur armée au lieu d'envoyer leurs femmes et leurs nourrissons mourir en mer.
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@ZNT22_ @Moe__Syzlak Spain wasn't created by France, and "Zionist entity" is just a slogan.
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@Funtivoman @Moe__Syzlak We can look back in time and it’s always going Berber and Moroccan , as well as your country , since we occupied it always before and after Islam for centuries before the French created your Zionist entity
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@ZNT22_ @Moe__Syzlak You're confusing Berber, Moroccan and Arab as if they were the same thing. Modern states can't simply project themselves thousands of years into the past. By that logic, half the world's borders would have to be redrawn.
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@ZNT22_ @Moe__Syzlak That's not what history says. Carthaginians were Phoenicians, not Berbers. Ceuta wasn't exclusively Berber at any point in history, it passed through Phoenician, Carthaginian, Roman, Byzantine, Muslim, Portuguese and Spanish rule. History isn't rewritten by repeating slogans.
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@Funtivoman @Moe__Syzlak Ceuta existed under Berbers before and after , and Cartagians and moors were Berber , not Spaniards who came from France
Both cites were strict military bases with no civilian life because you built a wall and stayed hidden in it, this is what history says
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@JEDRED123 @FatimaHPepin2 True. I agree with many of it's points and perspectives.
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@Funtivoman @FatimaHPepin2 It's a scholar article written by a neutral expert analysing facts and context.
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David Harris pose la question qui fâche «Pourquoi l'#Espagne est-elle en charge de #Ceuta et de #Melilla ? Elles sont situées en Afrique, pas en Europe. Décolonisation maintenant! Mettez fin à l’occupation maintenant ! Reconnaissance unilatérale de leur indépendance maintenant !»
David Harris@DavidHarrisNY
Why is #Spain in charge of #Ceuta & #Melilla? They’re located in Africa, not Europe. Sounds like a remnant of Spain’s colonial past. Decolonization now! End the occupation now! Unilateral recognition of their independence now! Exactly what Spain’s @sanchezcastejon deserves.
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@JEDRED123 @FatimaHPepin2 Same arguments we've been discussing. Both nations have very strong historial claims over the land.We can look back in time forever. Still, it's inhabitants choose to be a part of Spain, including Moroccans.
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@AzizDaouda I fear the issue would continue in the sea with far more deaths...
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@BennSteil People from Ceuta and Melilla have full rights as Spanish citicens and are represented in pairlament. Many Moroccans live there and also can vote and decide. We know better than doing what the US does in Puerto Rico.
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Is Spain turning Africa into a giant open-air prison in order to protect an apartheid enclave it established on colonized land?
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@ProfDBernstein Cheap propaganda. Almost 80 people drawned because of Moroccan negligence and It is the Spanish police trying to recover bodies from the sea and reuniting families... Not a single dead because of Spanish police or Armed Forces actions or inaction.
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So Spain has killed 67 Moroccans breaching its border, all civilians. 67 a days for three years would be 73,365 people or approximately how many Gazans Hamas alleges has been killed in the war, including combatants.
So Spain has the same daily death toll as the Gaza war, except that every single person they killed was a civilian, there was no precipitating massacre, they aren't at war, and there is no threat from the likes of Iran and Hezbollah looming over them.
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Genocidal Spanish forces threatening innocent Moroccan refugees trying to exercise their right of return.
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@tahamo1189732 @leealtman @TF208No6 Not my point. I know Morocco has progressed massively over the las decades. What worries me is what is happennning with Young Moroccans, with whom we share much deeper roots. It should be the other way around by far.
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@Funtivoman @leealtman @TF208No6 This is great, we won t hold them back anymore, you ll have plenty of qualified employers in the upcoming years
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I now recognise the Western Sahara as Spanish territory🇪🇸🇪🇸
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@tahamo1189732 @leealtman @TF208No6 It could be, there are plenty of those organizations all over Europe unfortunately. Not occupied though. We can argue forever. This should be over a cup of tea lol
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@Funtivoman @leealtman @TF208No6 Fyi also it seems now that an entity from Spain itself is behind the influx of migrants to the occupied Ceuta 😉
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@CapitalistOG It was Don Julián, an Iberian Visigoth, who opened the gates for Tariq. We can play that game forever. You should be outside your King's palace demanding accountability for denying your youth a future. Dozens have died because their own country failed them and used them as pawns.
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‼️ Morocco should own Ceuta, Melilla and even Gibraltar. Which is Jabal Tariq named after the Berber general from North Africa who took it in 711.
Moroccan dynasties (Almoravids, Almohads, Marinids of Fez) ruled the Rock for 750 years. Spain seized it in 1462, Britain snatched it from Spain in 1704. Europe’s last colonial fortress sits 14 km from Morocco.
Decolonize it properly give the Rock back to Africa. 🤔 we may see more people swimming to other locations?
What do you think about this?
Capitalist🧢 資本家 (alpha arc)@CapitalistOG
Funny how some turn the Ceuta issue into a “Christian vs Muslim” fight. Morocco is America’s oldest ally since 1786, stood with the US in the Iran war. However Spain blocked US bases, opposed the operation. Perhaps it’s time for Morocco to get back Ceuta and Melilla? Loyalty > lectures. What’s your opinion?
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@tahamo1189732 @leealtman @TF208No6 By the way, subsaharan migrants have better employment rates in Spain than Moroccans.
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@Funtivoman @leealtman @TF208No6 Let’s see how well you will take care of them and integrate them in you society
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@ZNT22_ @Moe__Syzlak Dozens of people have died because Morocco's own authorities wanted to make a political point. , Your outrage should be directed at the Moroccan institutions responsible for denying so many young Moroccans a future and turning them into political pawns...
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@Funtivoman @Moe__Syzlak Again the city Berber even in the supposed Roman era , and There is no citizens in the city from this time, when the Iberian pigs came in they killed all the population and established unlivable military output, your country was the original Zionist , and still NATO slave
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@ZNT22_ @Moe__Syzlak Dozens of people have died because Morocco's own authorities wanted to make a political point. , Your outrage should be directed at the Moroccan institutions responsible for denying so many young Moroccans a future and turning them into political pawns...
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@ZNT22_ @Moe__Syzlak Ceuta existed long before the Arab conquest: Phoenician, Carthaginian, Roman, Byzantine, Portuguese and Spanish. No credible historian claims Spain "killed all the population." If your argument is "Iberian pigs" and "NATO slave," you've replaced history with propaganda.
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@LicSheehan Siguiendo la lógica de que Ceuta es de Marruecos porque está en África, Estambul es Griega porque está en Europa, las islas de USA en el pacífico de Japón y otros, Egipto y el Sinaí, etc
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Yo sé que muchos no tocan un libro de geografía o historia ni a punta de cañón pero solo para que no repitas boludeces te aviso que CEUTA está en ÁFRICA, no en Europa. Actualmente está bajo dominio español pero pertenecía al sultanato benimerin, en 1668 tras la unificación del reino de España y Portugal, Ceuta quedó bajo su soberanía como una victoria militar.
Yo que vos revisaría el concepto de “invasión “
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