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@mcash @DulwichCleanAir @kieronjwilliams Except we don’t know anything about motivations without evidence or data, which it appears no one has, including you.

@GroveReopen @DulwichCleanAir @kieronjwilliams I am assuming nothing. The Tories tried to make it a single-issue vote on overturning the scheme. Voters rejected that. Maybe because they like the scheme, maybe because they had other priorities, probably a mix of both. We don't know. But we do know that voters rejected it.

Last week @kieronjwilliams claimed Dulwich Village cllrs were re-elected on their LTN manifesto. Let's take a look back at the election campaign material prior to the May elections. The reality: ⚠️No mention of LTNs. ⚠️No mention of closing more roads.

@DulwichCleanAir @mcash @kieronjwilliams Guess we’ve all given up relying on council data, eh?

@mcash @GroveReopen @kieronjwilliams Of course you do...perhaps we all shouldn't rely on council data.

@mcash @DulwichCleanAir @kieronjwilliams The Tory candidates did not gather enough votes but you don’t actually know why. You appear to make an assumption as to why but without any data. This feels very familiar. And v dodgy ground given previous statements from multiple Cllrs regards assumptions without data.

@GroveReopen @DulwichCleanAir @kieronjwilliams The Tories tried to make it a single issue election, about overturning the Streetspace scheme. Voters clearly rejected that - whatever their varying motivations. Also, anti-Tory sentiment does not explain why DV had one of the biggest Labour swings.

@mcash @DulwichCleanAir @kieronjwilliams Sorry, still don’t think you can claim that that explicitly was what was rejected without asking voters, (do you have this info?) given the overwhelming anti-Tory sentiment at the time.

@DulwichCleanAir @GroveReopen @kieronjwilliams No one said that Labour tried to turn it into a single-issue election: we had a long manifesto with lots to talk about. But opposition parties *did* try to do that, and voters rejected it. DV had one of the biggest swings to Labour in the borough. Goose Green was the biggest.

@DulwichCleanAir @mcash @kieronjwilliams Quite why ppl voted is impossible w/o surveying on exit. There was so much national anti-Tory feeling at the time, it cd have outweighed local issues. Kieron’s surmise is a BIG stretch w/o data. Can’t state votes for Labour were votes for closure. Esp as nowt in campaign material

@mcash @kieronjwilliams The direct quote from @kieronjwilliams was that "the two local cllrs had been very vocal in supporting this scheme and the wider measures." Still doesn't explain zero mentions of LTNs or closing more roads like Turney Road in *any* of the election information material.

@DulwichCleanAir Wow. Why on Earth if Head of Highways thinks the latest Dulwich consult is ‘dropping a ten tonne concrete block’ has he not advised against it. Maybe he has. What/who is driving such hugely unpopular plans off the back of the failed LTNs? The ‘out for blood’ Cllrs themselves?

A lot to take in here but none of it good in more shocking emails from Southwark to TfL. 🔴 Cllrs wanting "blood." 🔴 More criticism of the TfL report. 🔴The Dulwich Village consultation being described as Southwark's "biggest" issue. 🔴"Dropping a ten tonne concrete block."

@TwofeetgoodSE21 @DulwichCleanAir @margynewens @VictoriaPeckham @AirCroxted @busbf11 @DulwichReopen @TfL @mcash Lest anyone forgets, East Dulwich, roads monitored in his ward showed significant increases in traffic against a backdrop of borough, London & nationwide Covid-based drops, thanks to LTNs he supported, tho saying he wouldn’t if this came to pass. Which it did. Outside schools.

@DulwichCleanAir @GroveReopen @margynewens @VictoriaPeckham @AirCroxted @busbf11 @DulwichReopen @TfL @mcash Worse than that IIRC: he basically said 'transport emissions?' nothing to do with me, which is a catastrophically siloed way to think. Climate emergency requires joined up thinking.

Marvellous observations by @VictoriaPeckham in the Times today on the scruffy, socially unjust, non-functioning mess that is the Dulwich Village junction. Spot on! @DulwichCleanAir @AirCroxted @busbf11 @DulwichReopen

@DulwichCleanAir @margynewens @TwofeetgoodSE21 @VictoriaPeckham @AirCroxted @busbf11 @DulwichReopen Reading this thread, Margy said if Croxted is a failure, then the LTN is a failure. Which would be correct. Traffic not dissipated, just displaced. @TfL said the mess on Croxted was down to the LTN. So by Margy’s correct assertion, the whole LTN is indeed a failure.

@margynewens @TwofeetgoodSE21 @VictoriaPeckham @AirCroxted @busbf11 @DulwichReopen While you're here, perhaps you'd like to clear up the other mystery: was it you and cllr Leeming that made TfL staff cry?

@DulwichCleanAir @kieronjwilliams Should we now expect to see even more carbon emission increasing, business damaging road closures in response to cuts?

@kieronjwilliams Doesn't the £10m you've made from the Dulwich LTNs help at all?

@DulwichCleanAir Isn’t a/n major way to reduce car journeys 🔼 use of public transport? A bus can take up to 100 ppl, 100 ppl not in cars? Esp vital in areas with terrible PTAL. But Dulwich LTN has created so much congestion, bus service 3 has been cut by TFL. Fail. Fail. Fail. @helenhayes_

This is what Southwark claim their aims are for the LTNs in Dulwich. Two major issues: 🔴They're not collecting data on air quality. 🔴They're not collecting data on the reduction of carbon emissions.

@ChitchClaire @fredacowell @TomViolins @RoseCllr @helenhayes_ @willnorman @LondonTrafficW1 It is just bizarre & borderline insanity to ‘know’ that this is result of Dulwich LTNs, as all the data & residents & TfL told you, then continue to add more & more. Closing Turney Road will make this worse. Turney is NOT dangerous. But THIS created by @lb_southwark IS.

8/11/22: CROXTED SE21: cycling now a disaster on this road. And if you’re commuting you HAVE to use main roads. CROXTED is broken. Tackle car use. Buses can’t move. 2 years. NO EVAPORATION @fredacowell @TomViolins @RoseCllr @fredacowell @helenhayes_ @willnorman @LondonTrafficW1

@DulwichCleanAir @lb_southwark Is this another case of ‘we know what is best for you’, we will ask but if what you say does not align with what we want we’ll just ignore your valid opinions. Meanwhile making other roads (Croxted, EDG, LL) already dangerous, more toxic just to follow our fantasy. @ChitchClaire

@DulwichCleanAir Why are @lb_southwark council so intent on closing roads like this when the people who voted for them say they don’t want it or need it? Whose opinion are they following if not their own residents?

This is from the survey conducted by Southwark at the closed junction. They wanted people to admit that Turney rd posed a safety issue for cyclists, pedestrians and children. Turns out, people just didn't agree. Yet Southwark still plan on closing the road...

Dulwich Village is part of the timed restrictions inside the Dulwich LTN. We were told this would encourage cycling. These are the latest Southwark cycling figures. Traffic is up 15%, which means more pollution and more congestion on this road. #LTNfail

@LindaSWilkinson @SouthwarkLabour @MarshadeCordova @cllrmseaton @kieronjwilliams That does appear to be inevitable. What are business cabinet members actually doing for small businesses?

@GroveReopen @SouthwarkLabour @MarshadeCordova @cllrmseaton @kieronjwilliams Only to ignore them

Why can’t @SouthwarkLabour take the views and impacts on small business more seriously like @MarshadeCordova The impacts are clear as day - talk to the 5 business closed or left our road since our LTN but still no one wants to address it? @cllrmseaton @kieronjwilliams

@DulwichCleanAir This is so bizarrely incongruous with the usual Dulwich Village aspect. All for upcycling but this seating looks like a travelling circus has left it behind. @lb_southwark shoots itself in foot again. At last some unity, the whole village can agree this is an epic fail.

Taken at midday, yesterday. 21 degrees. Middle of half term. Empty. #SE21

I am visiting businesses on Balham High Road to discuss the A24 Streetspace scheme. It is great to bring @TFL so they can listen to the views of the businesses affected.

Yet @lb_southwark still claim they are closing roads to help with the climate emergency, when it is clear increased journey kms, at least 837Km a day from the ED LTN is counter productive in that regard, while damaging small businesses. @RoseCllr @cllrmseaton @Jason_Ochere

The all too evident, evidence that LTNs do nothing for carbon emissions, in fact makes them worse, is stacking up. LOUISE PERRY reports on the creeping war against motorists dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1… via @MailOnline