CovenantedUniformity
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@FavaAnthony Absurd that she would say something like that.
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@sojournermg3 @ZacharyGarris If someone thinks it binds someone's conscience to discipline for eating out on the sabbath that means they don't actually believe what Westminster Standards teach with regard to the sabbath.
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@InnovationHQ2 @ZacharyGarris No maybe just not conscience binding . If you want to discipline your members for what your church standards teach, have at it
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@TexSouthpresbro @UnanimousSpoon Does your church observe the Lord's supper seated at a table with large cups? If not then in practice you are taking exception to what the standards teach.

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@UnanimousSpoon @TexSouthpresbro Pretty much every American Presbyterian denomination in practice takes exception to the standards.
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@TexSouthpresbro I never understood the whole taking exception thing. If you don't agree with the WCF, then go to a different denomination.
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@sojournermg3 @ZacharyGarris So someone could habitually and unrepentantly go out to eat on the Sabbath and your church would not discipline for that? If so they must not believe it's actually sinful which means they don't take the standards seriously.
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@InnovationHQ2 @ZacharyGarris I do not think that one would be disciplined but our relatively new pastor has effectively explained why he and our ruling elders would not engage in these activities and encourage members in the same
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@justme6696 @irishpresby They also have put on a live nativity theatrical production in violation of the 2nd commandment
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@hulsey95 @ZacharyGarris It is very frustrating. Thankfully strict subscription Presbyterian denominations exist that don't allow any exceptions and believe in having uniformity.
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@InnovationHQ2 @ZacharyGarris Honestly, the 2nd and 4th are being violated left and right in Presbyterian denominations and it's frustrating. Our confession and catechisms lay out the why and yet even ministers don't seem to care.
I think it's the root of most of the issues we are seeing in both denomination
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@sojournermg3 @ZacharyGarris Would your church discipline someone for going out to eat on the Sabbath or engaging in worldly recreations on the Sabbath?
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@InnovationHQ2 @ZacharyGarris Our OPC pastor steadfastly enforces the sabbath including morning and evening services
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A Meditation on Psalm 84
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@JPMAVER @Jason_Catholic Because I am not in a deluded denial of the facts reality like you are. Anybody who is honest understands that real presence is not the same thing as transubstantiation.
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@InnovationHQ2 @Jason_Catholic Why can't you get it through your head that it most certainly does!
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@5Solas2 It's horrible. Are those people actually Protestant?
This is how real Protestants think with regard to Popery.

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@JPMAVER @Jason_Catholic This the first time I have asked you to give me qoutes from an ante-nicene father teaching that the Eucharist and Christ's sacrifice are one single sacrifice. Why can't you get it through your head that giving real presence qoutes does not equal teaching transubstantiation?
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@InnovationHQ2 @Jason_Catholic No. Giving them to you thirty times was enough!
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@JPMAVER @Jason_Catholic So you can't give me any qoutes?
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@JPMAVER @Jason_Catholic It is hopless for you if you think I will accept your sophistry. Give me qoute from an Ante-Nicene father that teaches the Eucharist and Christ's sacrifice are one single sacrifice.
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@InnovationHQ2 @Jason_Catholic Oh, you are back on that after it was explained to you? You are hopeless!
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@JPMAVER @Jason_Catholic You are just in a deluded denial of reality if you think that.
If someone teaches Christ is truly present in the eucharist but that the substance of bread and wine remains as Pope Gelasius did that is NOT Transubstantiation.
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@InnovationHQ2 @Jason_Catholic Teaching the Real Presence inherently teaches transubstantiation.
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