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👁️@feverrevery·
@IsabellaLe99 @sodachanh117 @arnoldwh @rideonFaker_ Last week against t1 he played Pantheon and used his R twice the entire game: one to run away and one before the nexus exploded 😂 While his teammates got fisted by Oner. He's worse than Cuzz without a jungle carry meta.
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Gen.G Arnold@arnoldwh·
I want to say something about Kiin, because I want to be direct with our fanbase about how I feel. They published the selection criteria. Read them for yourself, because they matter. After the achievement-based shortlist, the final roster came down to what they themselves called "detailed individual metrics." If you understand the game, look at that list and ask one question: what does a top laner do to make most of those numbers go up? He gets the favorable matchup. He gets the comfort pick. He gets resources funneled into his lane. Solo kills, DPM, DPG, gold diff at 14, CS diff at 14, every one of those climbs when the draft is built around you, and sinks when you give the lane up so a teammate can have theirs. Now ask what Kiin does. Kiin is the top laner who says "draft around everyone else and give me the leftover pick, I'll make it work." He takes the counterpick so a teammate gets comfort. He eats the hard matchup so the map opens elsewhere. Every one of those choices is a teammate's DPM going up instead of his. He trades his stat line for his team's win condition, every single game. There's no column on that list for that. The closest it comes to team value, gold share, damage share, still rewards the player who gets the resources, not the one who gives them up. And champion pool size is right there on the list: a metric that should favor exactly the kind of flexible player Kiin is. He plays one of the widest, most selfless pools in the role and still didn't make it. And before anyone runs with this: this is not about Zeus. Zeus is world-class and earned his spot. The players aren't the problem. The measuring stick is. We need to more rigorously test the statistics we cite, especially when it becomes a measuring stick that can impact decisions like these. If your criteria are built mostly from individual mechanical stats without proper statistical context, you haven't found the best players, you've found the players whose teams were built to make them look best. Kiin plays the game the right way. If these metrics say otherwise, the metrics are the problem, not Kiin, and not the players who were picked. To Kiin's fans: you already know this. You watched him do it. Please show him more support than ever.
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Isabella@IsabellaLe99·
@skyaachu Sorry to Korean fans who have to use Google translate to understand what Arnold said 😭. Maybe that’s why there are so many misinterpretations 😭
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Sky🍊@skyaachu·
he doesn't speak Korean?? k-fans are saying he can't speak korean and that's why he's posting everything on X instead😭😭
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Isabella@IsabellaLe99·
@mocha0159 But why would he have to do it privately? 😂 this is social media ppl can say whatever they want. And in this case, it’s him raising concern for his team! You ask this naive and stupid question as if you post nothing on this platform
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Isabella@IsabellaLe99·
@AnnIndahouse1 @arnoldwh This is out of context. He’s talking about top lane with different impact compared to a jungler. You can ask Joe to make a post on Oner. Pretty darn pathetic not to have someone in the org to voice up for your athelete that u have to seek for data from the opponent side 💔
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🐶 With.You 🐱@AnnIndahouse1·
@arnoldwh So what about Canyon? Canyon over Oner? You talk about MSI, but what about World? World 24 and World 25, where is your GenG’s members?
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Gen.G Arnold@arnoldwh·
Now let's talk about MSI, and why I wanted to establish that the criteria themselves are flawed before getting into this. I still do not know why MSI, the midseason international event, wasn't in the criteria, while KESPA Cup, a preseason event, was. So I pulled Riot's API and ran their own criteria stats across 2024–2026: EWC 2025, MSI 2024–25, Worlds 2024–25, LCK 2024–26, and First Stand 2025–26. The result: Kiin ranks #1 in Overall (image 1), and clearly so. Include KESPA Cup (image 2) as well and the margin narrows, but he's still #1. For a moment, I'm willing to set aside every concern about whether these are even the right metrics, and take their stat list exactly as given. Even then, the moment the event scope is wider, Kiin is the top player. He only isn't #1 if the window stays narrow, limited to just their chosen list of events. And you don't even have to agree with my earlier point that the metrics themselves are flawed. Even using their statistical metrics across a wider, fairer set of events, their own numbers put Kiin first. Kiin deserves better.
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Isabella@IsabellaLe99·
Some GenG fans are embarrassed for Kiin AS IF they’re the ones who interact w him in real life & listen to his concerns. What Arnold said is necessary, even if it’s controversial. Being silent means u agreed that your team is not as deserved, which Kiin has proven to be otherwise
Gen.G Arnold@arnoldwh

Now let's talk about MSI, and why I wanted to establish that the criteria themselves are flawed before getting into this. I still do not know why MSI, the midseason international event, wasn't in the criteria, while KESPA Cup, a preseason event, was. So I pulled Riot's API and ran their own criteria stats across 2024–2026: EWC 2025, MSI 2024–25, Worlds 2024–25, LCK 2024–26, and First Stand 2025–26. The result: Kiin ranks #1 in Overall (image 1), and clearly so. Include KESPA Cup (image 2) as well and the margin narrows, but he's still #1. For a moment, I'm willing to set aside every concern about whether these are even the right metrics, and take their stat list exactly as given. Even then, the moment the event scope is wider, Kiin is the top player. He only isn't #1 if the window stays narrow, limited to just their chosen list of events. And you don't even have to agree with my earlier point that the metrics themselves are flawed. Even using their statistical metrics across a wider, fairer set of events, their own numbers put Kiin first. Kiin deserves better.

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Isabella@IsabellaLe99·
@Chason93 @arnoldwh This is very out of context. He mentioned MSI, by which he’s proud of Canyon being in the national team. You take it to Worlds and put words in his mouth that he meant Canyon doesn’t deserve it, a very despicable behavior indeed.
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Chason@Chason93·
@arnoldwh If you're upset that MSI didn't count, what do you think about winning Worlds 3 years in a row? Are you actually saying Canyon shouldn't have been selected?
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Gen.G Arnold@arnoldwh·
Oh and not counting MSI? I don’t even know how to address that since I can’t even understand the base logic of it…
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Xiety 👀
Xiety 👀@xiety03·
Honestly anyone who doesn’t understand this is an idiot and knows nothing about the game. It’s just so fucked up that everything Kiin has done for the sake of the team has come at the expense of his own metrics, and the people who were supposed to be experts also let him down.
Gen.G Arnold@arnoldwh

I want to say something about Kiin, because I want to be direct with our fanbase about how I feel. They published the selection criteria. Read them for yourself, because they matter. After the achievement-based shortlist, the final roster came down to what they themselves called "detailed individual metrics." If you understand the game, look at that list and ask one question: what does a top laner do to make most of those numbers go up? He gets the favorable matchup. He gets the comfort pick. He gets resources funneled into his lane. Solo kills, DPM, DPG, gold diff at 14, CS diff at 14, every one of those climbs when the draft is built around you, and sinks when you give the lane up so a teammate can have theirs. Now ask what Kiin does. Kiin is the top laner who says "draft around everyone else and give me the leftover pick, I'll make it work." He takes the counterpick so a teammate gets comfort. He eats the hard matchup so the map opens elsewhere. Every one of those choices is a teammate's DPM going up instead of his. He trades his stat line for his team's win condition, every single game. There's no column on that list for that. The closest it comes to team value, gold share, damage share, still rewards the player who gets the resources, not the one who gives them up. And champion pool size is right there on the list: a metric that should favor exactly the kind of flexible player Kiin is. He plays one of the widest, most selfless pools in the role and still didn't make it. And before anyone runs with this: this is not about Zeus. Zeus is world-class and earned his spot. The players aren't the problem. The measuring stick is. We need to more rigorously test the statistics we cite, especially when it becomes a measuring stick that can impact decisions like these. If your criteria are built mostly from individual mechanical stats without proper statistical context, you haven't found the best players, you've found the players whose teams were built to make them look best. Kiin plays the game the right way. If these metrics say otherwise, the metrics are the problem, not Kiin, and not the players who were picked. To Kiin's fans: you already know this. You watched him do it. Please show him more support than ever.

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Dan Harrison
Dan Harrison@AuxCasts·
This is completely correct, using these 'Detailed individual metrics' to judge a player without additonal context is a joke It's a huge self report that you don't understand league of legends if you do this Stats are a tool and are so often misused in the most incompetent ways
Gen.G Arnold@arnoldwh

I want to say something about Kiin, because I want to be direct with our fanbase about how I feel. They published the selection criteria. Read them for yourself, because they matter. After the achievement-based shortlist, the final roster came down to what they themselves called "detailed individual metrics." If you understand the game, look at that list and ask one question: what does a top laner do to make most of those numbers go up? He gets the favorable matchup. He gets the comfort pick. He gets resources funneled into his lane. Solo kills, DPM, DPG, gold diff at 14, CS diff at 14, every one of those climbs when the draft is built around you, and sinks when you give the lane up so a teammate can have theirs. Now ask what Kiin does. Kiin is the top laner who says "draft around everyone else and give me the leftover pick, I'll make it work." He takes the counterpick so a teammate gets comfort. He eats the hard matchup so the map opens elsewhere. Every one of those choices is a teammate's DPM going up instead of his. He trades his stat line for his team's win condition, every single game. There's no column on that list for that. The closest it comes to team value, gold share, damage share, still rewards the player who gets the resources, not the one who gives them up. And champion pool size is right there on the list: a metric that should favor exactly the kind of flexible player Kiin is. He plays one of the widest, most selfless pools in the role and still didn't make it. And before anyone runs with this: this is not about Zeus. Zeus is world-class and earned his spot. The players aren't the problem. The measuring stick is. We need to more rigorously test the statistics we cite, especially when it becomes a measuring stick that can impact decisions like these. If your criteria are built mostly from individual mechanical stats without proper statistical context, you haven't found the best players, you've found the players whose teams were built to make them look best. Kiin plays the game the right way. If these metrics say otherwise, the metrics are the problem, not Kiin, and not the players who were picked. To Kiin's fans: you already know this. You watched him do it. Please show him more support than ever.

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Dan Harrison@AuxCasts·
@perfectchovy I don't understand the reasoning, it's also disrespectful to MSI as a tournament and all the Korean teams who have fought hard to win it. I get that worlds is rated higher in terms of prestige but to completely disregard MSI makes no sense
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Isabella@IsabellaLe99·
@DinhHoa74612169 @arnoldwh Canyon with 2 MSI*. And people complaining about Canyon as if Geng didn’t win over T1 in Swiss Stage World 25 and MSI🫩
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Dinh Hoang@DinhHoa74612169·
@arnoldwh The reality of the last 2 years (2024-2025): • Oner: Back-to-back Worlds Champion, EWC 2024 Champion. Consistently gapped Canyon on the biggest global stages. • Canyon: Dominant domestically, but only 1 MSI trophy. Fell short at Worlds.
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Isabella@IsabellaLe99·
@iloveanivia @arnoldwh Did he say a word that Zeus is bad? And he has all the reasons to cue Zeus directly cause this is about Kiin and Asiad, he just didn’t want to waste your PRECIOUS time asking who else he referred to 😊 he protects his team and it aint fucking wrong in any sense
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iloveanivia@iloveanivia·
Hey, you have the right to complain to Kespa, right? Why, instead of just complaining, do you have to post something like X to incite others? Regardless of the outcome, I will respect the final decision. Your intention is clearly to incite cyberbullying against others, yet you act like you're some kind person. Your child is precious and my child deserves the Asian Games slot 🥰
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Isabella@IsabellaLe99·
@sodachanh117 @arnoldwh @rideonFaker_ This is very out of context. Arnold was referring to top lane, and you’re referring to jungler with different kind of impact in the game. If u want to target attack Canyon, better give arguments instead of being pathetic enough to data dump and not providing any rationale
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Gen.G Arnold@arnoldwh·
@hide__on_bush_ When did I say stats don’t matter, I said they required context. Not sure if I should recommend some lessons on how to read or statistics first.
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Isabella@IsabellaLe99·
@arnoldwh For those Canyon haters, why don’t u just think that because it was Chovy who was in the original roster (but resigned due to back injury) to secure a mid-jungle core w Canyon? Something Oner can only do w Faker? No offense, but I’m pretty sure Faker will bench just like Asiad22
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