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Andy Ryan
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Andy Ryan
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Narnia business Katılım Temmuz 2012
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@redpillednow73 @TheTNHoller They don't refer to him as "Mr Black man" for a start.
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@TheTNHoller Why don’t you tell me what Democrats have done for you, Mr. Black man
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@BarksAtStars @Dnillagorilla @realcopeaganda @Mixorz @JonnyRoot_ ...If you want to argue that having a Black woman play the daughter of a God makes no sense in the logic of the film then you can make that argument. Just saying "It's like a BMW in LOTR" is not in itself an argument. But I can't understand this for you, so cheerio.
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@BarksAtStars @Dnillagorilla @realcopeaganda @Mixorz @JonnyRoot_ "therefore you can change it any way you want because it’s not real history…"
Sure, and we can judge adaptations by how well the changes fit and how they're justified, eg modern versions of Hamlet. That the meme offers a really stupid change doesn't mean all changes are stupid.
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@Vaxolotl1729 It's about the stupid discourse about a movie that's not come out yet, so we don't know if it's stupid or not.
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@ripmangopods @Dnillagorilla @realcopeaganda @Mixorz @JonnyRoot_ ...The casting for a film is a completely different situation because you've already got a suspension of disbelief in place to ignore that, for example, you know who Matt Damon is, and you've seen all the actors playing other parts. You know this and are playing dumb. Bye now.
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@ripmangopods @Dnillagorilla @realcopeaganda @Mixorz @JonnyRoot_ "the message behind both is on the suspension of disbelief in fiction"
Sure, and the BMW doesn't fit because a) It's specific to not just a particular technology level but also b) a particular period in history.
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@ciceroexsul @VAvoterX "without people having bizarrely over-the-top reactions about it"
You just agreed he was lying about the reaction he got. And the supposed reaction wasn't to him saying anything about Obama's presidency anyway. Have good day.
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@ItsAndyRyan @VAvoterX Okey doke. Anyway, glad now we can point out what a bad president Obama was without people having bizarrely over-the-top reactions about it, a thing I too experienced back then.
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In undergrad, I called Obama an idiot in front of a professor...citing the fact that he was the only editor of the Harvard Law Review to never publish a law review.
She literally screamed at me while frothing at the mouth.
Never said how I was wrong though!
PoIiMath@politicalmath
I want to see a celebrity roast of Barack Obama just to prove how utterly terrified every edgy counter cultural offensive comic is when it comes time to actually criticizing a sacred cow
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@ripmangopods @Dnillagorilla @realcopeaganda @Mixorz @JonnyRoot_ ...If you genuinely think that the logical conclusion of a) accepting a Black guy playing a character in a sci-fi movie is b) that you can't complain about Aragorn having a specific brand of iPhone in a LOTR adaptation then I don't think you know what 'logical conclusion' means.
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@ripmangopods @Dnillagorilla @realcopeaganda @Mixorz @JonnyRoot_ No it doesn't – the first meme suggests it's fine to have a Black person in a sci-fi film, the second meme has a specific make of car in a fantasy setting. The second is not the logical conclusion of the first. The argument against the latter don't apply against the former.
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@ModernRhetorics @mervinsmangoes @politicalmath @AliceFromQueens "There is no possible state where I am Somalian"
Right, and there's no way that I'd miss breakfast, so it's absurd to ask me to imagine that happening. Have a good day.
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@ItsAndyRyan @mervinsmangoes @politicalmath @AliceFromQueens 3/3 There is no me being born in Somalia because to be born in Somalia is to be Somalian, not me. There is no possible state where I am Somalian.
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A question for anyone impressed by this argument:
If your son died suddenly of a rare disease tied to a gene in your bloodline, would you say the boy had earned his fate?
Would you say he deserved to die?
The kid would have died "by the nature" of being your progeny.
Jeremy Kauffman 🦔🌲🌕@jeremykauffman
@TrueSlazac My children are not "lucky". They have earned the life that they have by the nature of being my progeny.
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@pyrameadhead I'm more surprised to see an American eating a baked potato.
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People not from Illinois and Michigan are confounded by this. I would have been surprised if she didn't sound like that.
Raphouse TV (RHTV)@raphousetv7
Indiana Woman Going: Viral For Her very Unexpected Accent While Giving A Whole Baked Potato Review😳🥔🍽️
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@eyeformation @JohnDalyBooks It says in the text over the video that it's Stan Lee.
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The focus on that waitress later in the film now makes a little more sense.
No Context Tobey Maguire@OocTobeyM
The Avengers (2012) has a deleted scene where Steve Rogers sits alone at a cafe, completely lost in modern times A waitress tries to talk to him. He doesn't react Stan Lee leans over from the next table and says "Ask for her number, ya moron" Marvel cut it
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@ciceroexsul @VAvoterX So the story is a lie. Andrew above says the professor was "literally" frothing at the mouth. That she was genuinely "screaming" sounds very unlikely too. Screaming is like you've just seen a dead body, or you've been stabbed.
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@ItsAndyRyan @VAvoterX Sure, I don't think the professor literally frothed at the mouth.
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@BarksAtStars @Dnillagorilla @realcopeaganda @Mixorz @JonnyRoot_ Sure, if you're setting the film in modern day and so 1999 Toyota Corollas exist. The Coen Brothers loosely adapted The Odyssey in their film Oh Brother Where Art Thou, which had 20th century technology.
How is that comparable to a Black actress playing the daughter of a God?
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@ItsAndyRyan @Dnillagorilla @realcopeaganda @Mixorz @JonnyRoot_ If: a story is based on mythology and therefore you can change it any way you want because it’s not real history…
Then logically it doesn’t matter if you make Helen of Troy drive a 1999 Toyota Corolla into battle.
Because it’s not real history so it doesn’t matter, right?
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@ripmangopods @Dnillagorilla @realcopeaganda @Mixorz @JonnyRoot_ If you asked me to explain why the appearance of a particular make of car in, say, Lord of the Rings wouldn't work, I could give you good reasons that wouldn't work at all if you tried to use it for why you can't have Asian Hobbits. They're not similar situations.
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@ItsAndyRyan @Dnillagorilla @realcopeaganda @Mixorz @JonnyRoot_ It’s a perfectly apt comparison and calling it stupid because it counters the original argument doesn’t make it so.
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