@ImGenuinelyMe@AtheistTakes It will be the same as it was before I was born - whether I want it or not.
None of what you mentioned is verifiable evidence.
@AtheistTakes Christianity is enough evidence. It started because of Jesus
Millions of people claiming they've had some kind of experience with ghosts
You only have morality because of God
But none of it will never be enough. Maybe when close to dying. Coz why would you want to be "nothing"?
@bmoore734@bbrebozo101@itsrosesm No. Airports aren’t a constitutional right. And we want to make sure to remove obstacles for those with the legal right to vote - not create them.
@ItsFakeNew91096@bbrebozo101@itsrosesm Just like they are harassing so many ppl at the airports? You folks on the left do a whole lot of fear mongering only to try and scare your base. Democrats are nothing but weak minded these days.
@NotEvolution1 We'll change our position the moment you can show some "god" is real.
But that's not gonna happen since your "god" is not real, just a figment of your imagination.
The abolition point is a heavy one, and it’s worth unpacking. Slavery was a universal reality in the ancient world (as it still is in some places today). The Bible doesn’t idealise it — the Old Testament regulated an existing practice in a fallen world (much like divorce laws in Matthew 19:8), while the New Testament elevates human dignity (Galatians 3:28 — “neither slave nor free… all one in Christ”) and undermines the institution from within (see the book of Philemon).
Historically, it was Christians — motivated by biblical convictions about the image of God — who led the abolition movements (Wilberforce, Equiano, the Clapham Sect, etc.). The idea that slavery is objectively wrong is itself a moral standard borrowed from the biblical worldview. And so without the God of Scripture as the ground of objective morality, your own indignation becomes arbitrary.
@AgainstAtheismX I just want evidence of anything supernatural. Then there would be a whole world of possibilities in which a Christian god may exist. But since there is none… there is none.
@AlienRob76@GigaBasedDad Other writings pre date it. Also, for the 297,000 years prior to its writing and compilation, we seeemed to survive pretty well. It’s only in the last 3,000 that heaven cares what you do when you’re naked.
And yet… science changes tact, changes position, morphs from one idea to the next… and then back again. This is not a criticism… the scientific method is constantly testing hypotheses, etc. That’s how we learn. But the Bible is unchanging, and the reason for that is simple: it provides the bedrock, the very foundation, for logic, truth, the uniformity of nature… everything that is necessary for a scientific inquiry—𝑜𝑓 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑚. And if the foundation itself was constantly changing, well, we wouldn’t even have a foundation… and everything would be meaningless.
@AlienRob76@GigaBasedDad In this thought experiment there is no more Bible - they are burned. And it will not return because there is no testing-retesting. Also, the Bible isn’t the bedrock… it’s just a place where we can see certain tribes in one area of the world try to explain their place in it.
@AlienRob76@GigaBasedDad There is no such thing as an objective moral standpoint. I have no indignation for that imaginary creature nor the Easter bunny. I am emotionally divorced from my reporting that the imaginary god of the Bible gets wrathful and that he commits genocide. Those are in the story.
@ItsFakeNew91096@GigaBasedDad If God does not exist, what objective moral standard are you drawing upon in order to judge Him this way? This is important… because your indignation of Him is baseless and arbitrary if you cannot account for your starting point.
Wow… a “fictional epic with no effect on the world” — now that’s a bold claim if ever I saw one! The Bible has shaped laws, ethics, art, science, and entire civilisations for 2,000+ years (think hospitals, universities, human rights rooted in “imago Dei,” abolition of slavery, etc). Burning it wouldn’t erase that historical impact any more than burning every copy of Shakespeare would erase English literature.
But here’s the deeper issue: your ability to critique the Bible at all presupposes the very logic, truth, and uniformity of nature that only the God of Scripture can account for. You’re using tools that the Christian worldview alone grounds in order to dismiss it. This tells us that it is never the Bible which is on trial; 𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒂𝒖𝒕𝒐𝒏𝒐𝒎𝒐𝒖𝒔 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒐𝒏𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒘𝒉𝒊𝒄𝒉 𝒊𝒔 𝒖𝒍𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒍𝒚 𝒐𝒏 𝒕𝒓𝒊𝒂𝒍.
@Grumm_Nation@xabrazo@itstellafrancis Interestingly, the aliens of the future will only know you believe it’s wrong because people like you say it is in some text. Otherwise it will be an anthropological artifact of our society. Here are males that dress as men or women… and here are people who that upsets.
@AlienRob76@GigaBasedDad The Bible is an adulterated mass of books of various unverifiable authors. It is a great fictional epic. However, if you burned it, in 200 years it would still be ashes because nothing in it has any affect on the world and the world cannot be tested in any way to rewrite it.
That’s funny. It’s funny because there isn’t another book on this planet that comes anywhere close to the Bible: Its composition, how it actually came to consist: 40 authors (who didn’t all know each other), from 3 different continents, writing in 3 different languages, over roughly a 1,500-year period, contributing to one complete volume, which flows systematically, is thematically consistent, is coherent, cross-references within itself, and just harmonises beautifully. I challenge you to find another book like that. Because even if you deny the claims of the Bible, you are still looking at a book like no other. “Come back in 200 years…?” The Bible has been around far, far longer than that, has had everything thrown at it that could possibly be thrown at it, and it’s still standing. So, absolutely, let’s go for it. I’m totally up for this game of yours 😉