@oikonomikon My dad grew up in Larisa in the 60s - 70s. Larisa hosted American air force men from time to time and one time there was a black American air force man that he saw and he and the other kids were shocked cuz they had never seen a black person in real life before.
@WarAtHumanity@robert47983@SarahAllisonFl@grok Irans culture was heavily altered by islam. It is true though it was not out and out destroyed and replaced entirely like in the Levant and Egypt. That's why Iran has produced so many great and enlightened people
@oldsoulktp77@ProiosPantelis@SlimWiggy We arent claiming that.
You are being pedantic and choosing not to understand what we said.
But you do you i guess
@robbysoave The Odyssey is a uniquely Greek story, based around a real war and rose entirely out of a Greek cultural context.
The character being fictional is irrelevant. You can not separate the Greekness from the story.
Django from Django Unchained is fictional. You cant make him white.
@oldsoulktp77@ProiosPantelis@SlimWiggy That is the literal translation. Colloquially, when someone says "the acropolis", they are referring to the acropolis in Athens.
Again, that is obviously the way that guy used it.
@oldsoulktp77@ProiosPantelis@SlimWiggy The poster you were replying to used the term acropolis in the modern specific sense referring to the site in Athens.
Thats obvious.
But yeah, be pedantic if you want.
@Lady_Zamar@TamunokuroGeor1@sadmethod Xanthi absolutely CAN refer to Northern European blond. It had a wide array of color when applied to hair from light blond to light brown.
@Lady_Zamar@Ehi_befree@sadmethod Mycenaeans were not Sardinians, but we know what the DNA of Mycenaeans was composed of and we know what the DNA of modern southern Euros is composed of.
The closest modern populations to the Mycenaeans are Greek islanders and Southern Italians.
@Lady_Zamar@rao1870@sadmethod We know what the DNA of ancient Greek people was made up of. We literally have it.
We could prove they weren't "diverse".
Ancient Greece, especially in the bronze age and the days of Homer, would have been overwhelmingly homogeneous
@Lady_Zamar@sadmethod You are dead wrong. Stop appropriating our culture.
Helen was referred to as blonde and fair skinned first by the ancient Greeks in the 7th Century BC, not by Hollywood.
The picture you posted looks nothing like Ancient Greeks would have liked.
Stop blackwashing our history.
@tendekai_mukasi@UltCent@The__BadaBing The Mycenaens who the story is about also spoke an archaic form of Greek....
So Greek people definitely did exist back then
@ZDeaths16456@Nguyen_anime3 Levantines were lighter back then because modern levantines have Arabic admixture that levantines back then lacked.
There are plenty of levantines today who look white. Look at Bashar Al Assad for an example.
His skin color is irrelevant. He was a jew from the levant.
@oldsoulktp77@ProiosPantelis@SlimWiggy Akropoli means "high city". That is the literal meaning.
Generally, it was used to refer to an elevated and fortified part of the city.
@801formal_llama@TheMiddleborne I guess the final point ill make is
Greekness is inherent to the story because the story emerged out of a real Greek conflict and entirely out of a Greek cultural context.
It is impossible to divorce the Odyssey from its Greekness
Appreciate the condo. Have a good night