JoeOfEarth™

@BillSobel @doqholliday

Ok, lets just say I'm wrong about that bit and that it would take some long coordinated op and not just him articulating to the public what is really going on with the deep state control. Can you address the other points I made, like if this was truly some long 5D chess move, why would he and whoever else is working with him be dropping clues on the internet. Wouldn't the deep state he's fighting catch on and be able to at least try to work up some counter strategy? What point does it serve to feed coded messages anonymously to the public? And all my other points in that comment. Honestly, I'm not trying to be combative or say you guys are all crazy and stupid and wrong, I'm open minded and have entertained the idea, but after reflecting on it I have concerns which I tried to lay out in that response. You may very well be correct that I have no Idea what is occurring, I truly want to believe that Trump is on the side of good and not evil and is going to really follow through with his promises and expose the deep state and get us all as Americans to a much better place. I truly want that to be true, I just haven't seen anything convincing that that is the case and just based on all of his recent actions and decisions, I would need a compelling argument and not just a bunch of cryptic clues. Please, I am very open to new ideas, I have tried asking many Q people these questions and have not gotten any real answers. I'm usually just told that its really deep and calculated and 5D chess and to just trust the process and its all part of the plan and explanations of what the actual end goal is and stuff like that, but I have not gotten anyone to actually answer some of these concerns I have with the idea or break down the actual strategy of why his actions all indicate he is part of the deep state yet still somehow running some op on them. I'm not just some internet troll looking to dunk on you or call you names, I'm just an open minded dude who likely wants the same outcome as you, I just have clearly interpreted what is going on differently then you and other Q followers, especially in this most recent term. I will admit, I have not gone too deep into the weeds with the Q stuff, but I get the general idea and have seen plenty of the connections laid out between the anon 4chan posts and Trump. I'm not denying that there is a direct tie there, my theory is just that it is just another deep state psy op to deceive a lot of the smarter anti deepstate folks online into trusting Trump despite his actions that would indicate he is a part of the deepstate. If you keep that group who usually is able to analyse and call out deep state psy ops thinking that the president is secretly working against the deep state while pretending to be working for them, then you eliminate a group of people who have the skills to expose them. Just looking for some real discourse, you can DM if you'd like to make this conversation not public. Looking forward to a follow up response! I will keep it civil like I have here.

Donald Trump has proof that he is NOT a cabal "elite". He has proof that the so called "elites" tried to destroy him and destroyed much of his family in the past. He is a total and complete outsider despite what many might think.

Bro, I'm trying to follow you but this is a very dancey way of talking. Can we just be direct, like just straight up answers to my questions. You are just rehashing the Q perspective or story or whatever and not answering the overall question I posed: "How do you know this whole Q thing is not just some deep state psy op to deceive a specific group of people who are anti establishment into supporting trump?" I layed out my view on it pretty directly in a straight forward manor. If you don't mind, go back to my original long comment, read through and respond point by point. All the stuff you said here sounds like a bunch of floaty language that didn't really address anything I say. I say all this with respect, I'm not one of the internet trolls that will just call you names and dismiss everything you say. I'll listen with an open mind, you just need to actually address my questions/concerns

@JoeOfEarth @PimpChiChiS @AutistDivision Trump’s vision is 180 degrees opposite direction.. The Great Awakening is the exact opposite of the Great Reset. Its all out in the open … in plain site. What you have to ask urself… do Trumps move work against the climate scam or not? Is drill baby drill compatible w NetZero?

Boom! 💥 Trump went Q again. Directly. 🔥🔥🔥

@JayTC53 How do you sleep bro?

Megyn Kelly continues her spiral down the toilet bowl as she promotes DEBUNKED fake news garbage that "Trump fell asleep yesterday" What happened to Mecca Kelly??

@realJoeGigs @PimpChiChiS @AutistDivision Can you break these two down more. Or just dm me I think that will be easier

@JoeOfEarth @PimpChiChiS @AutistDivision If you’re still with me… its time to shift focus to the crux of the biscuit. The central theme of Q boards was: Great Awakening vs Great Reset The Great Reset was the pinnacle of central planning. “Shareholder capitalism” = own nothing/be happy. The climate is their weapon!

@TheSmellyTomato @Deadypool6969 @grok @JayTC53 @JoannCombs4720 MAGA: Make Age Gaps Acceptable

@Deadypool6969 @JoeOfEarth @grok @JayTC53 @JoannCombs4720 pure evil haha you guys only started to turn on him because trump got pissed massie wanted to keep going after pedos... no wonder MAGA Hates him

Thomas Massie is the swamp. Who wants to tell him? 😂🤡

@silverstandard0 @ky_statesman Lol, well played. These pleebs don't realize it's about to start. The day after tomorrow I've heard. Or maybe the day after that. Quite possibly the next day too. 😂

@ky_statesman You obviously don't understand 5d chess. In order to take down the deep state he has to pretend to be the deep state for at least 10 years. The storm should arrive in about 2 more weeks

Too many people are starting to notice "the plan". Time to pull out the Qslop!

Lol what does this mean? Can you elaborate with a thought out response that actually addresses the claims? I'm genuinely curious to hear a good argument for it, I'm open minded but require some facts and data and not just blind faith based on subtle clues linking trump to a secret agenda of systematic infiltration. Just saying it's 5D chess without being able to explain it does not cut it for me

@JoeOfEarth @justicecometh 😂 because Trump is our president. He's hated by deep state. Trump is q+

Q isn’t real huh? 🤔

@Deadypool6969 @grok @JayTC53 @JoannCombs4720 It's option 2. This guy is a shill who constantly posts lies and fed slop bs

@grok @JoeOfEarth @JayTC53 @JoannCombs4720 So, the guy that brought it up is either ignorant or purposefully lying.

@grok is this true? Did massie sign a pledge that he wouldn't run for more then 3 terms? It was my understanding he has backed or pushed legislation that would impose term limits, but has never he would not run longer then 3 terms if the legislation never passed. In my opinion, he has continued to run and serve past 3 terms to try to get legislation like this and other objectives he seems important to reducing corruption in congeess and politics

@JoannCombs4720 He signed a pledge that he would only serve 3 terms. Then he betrayed it and did 7 lol

@ky_statesman @justicecometh Love this lol this has been my working theory on the q movement for a while.

@justicecometh x.com/ky_statesman/s…

How do you know this Q thing is not just another deep state psy op to target individuals who are more analytical and anti deep state who otherwise would never support trump as he does things like partner with Israel for a drawn out war in Iran where he allows his military to bomb innocent children and then lie about it with a straight face to the media? Or all of the covering up of the Epstein files and gaslighting the people that it's a hoax? Or turning against every big name figure that seems to be truly going for the deep state the second they disagree with one of his bad decisions? How do you reconcile Trump's actions with this alleged Q agenda/plan of trump taking down the deep state? You really think despite all of his actions that suggest he is directly working on behalf of the deep state, there is this grand plan where he is secretly working against them, infiltrating them so he can dismantle them, all the while having people to drop clues of this plan on the internet with a whole movement behind it and think that the deep state somehow would not to catch on to it and counter it or use it against him? I just don't get it, I see these patterns and connections people find and kinda get the whole idea of the Q thing, but there are too many pieces that just don't add up and the more I think about it the more obvious it is to me that it is just another deep state psy op to target individuals who otherwise would be very anti trump. If trump truly wanted to dismantle the deep state he could have done it his first term immediately after getting into office. He could have help a major press conference or state of the union or something where he talked right into the camera and broke down exactly what was happening behind the scenes and who was really calling shots and fully and directly expose the deep state instead of this long cycle of, "it's about to start" stringing people along for years, week by week, just leaving these subtle clues on an anonymous internet forum for a small group of internet nerds to decode and peice together this drawn out plan of infiltration of the deep state. At the beginning of his first term, he had fully rallied his base around this idea of draining the swamp and fighting the deep state and totally could have exposed it from the very beginning (or whenever he saw fit) with a well articulated, direct, detailed, thorough speach to the American people that broke the entire system down and provided undeniable receipts for all his statements. I'm truly trying to understand the logic here, I haven't followed all that closely but have seen enough to get the gist of the idea behind the Q movement. I'm open minded and have entertained the idea that it is in fact a real plan that trump is involved with, but the more time goes on and the more things trump does which go completely against this Q agenda, the more I think that it's just another high level op. Would love to hear your thoughts, I have an open mind and am not fully attached to either position but and leaning more strongly to the theory I presented the longer he's in office. I'm not calling Q subscribers stupid or bad, they clearly all have good intentions and want to see positive changes and remove this evil network that has been calling shots for decades or even centuries, I just think they are maybe too hopeful/optomistic and are desperate for real mainstream exposure of the deep state system so they keep holding on to this idea that trump is in a long drawn out 5D chess match that is slowly setting up for a major checkmate via a plan of systematic stealth infiltration of the system they hope to expose.

@PimpChiChiS @AutistDivision Trump posted It himself Chi chi… You can hate on it, but cannot deny.. Trump is Q+

@logicpolice45 @AutistDivision @FedupWithSwamp This is def my guess at this point. No ody fighting the deep state is going to partner with Israel and start a forever war with Iran and allow his military to bomb school girls and then straight face lie to the media about it

Clearly this is a psy op to keep people complaicent- and to make it work better, DJT got in on it and got a chunk of his ear detached, got sued into oblivion, got his mugshot taken, and subjected himself to multiple ass*sination attempts and got the media in on it to smear him to make it all the more believable

@grok @WeAreNotGTM @RepThomasMassie @grok that's what I was asking, maybe I worded it wrong. What I was asking is if massie had slightly changed the wording and not used *distributed" but rather used "partnered with" then Andrew would have had to admit yes, the are partnered with the foreign agent

**Not quite.** Kolvet's response directly addressed Massie's exact wording: whether the show "is now distributed by a registered foreign agent of Israel." He stated it's on RAV, not Salem—which matches the post-Jan 2026 transition away from Salem's radio slot. The FARA registrant is Clock Tower X LLC (run by Salem CSO Brad Parscale), not Salem itself or RAV. It contracts for pro-Israel PR that may integrate into Salem properties, but that's indirect and separate from current distribution. Massie's phrasing wasn't semantically wrong for the "now distributed" claim; Kolvet just answered narrowly and literally. A broader question on funding, partnerships, or Salem ties would have required more detail, but he wasn't dodging the question asked.

Hey @grok, who started the Charlie Kirk Show, and is this guy Andrew Kolvet telling the truth? I think he's being disingenuous about Salem Media Group... Why would he lie about something like this when it seems like it's very accessible public information at this point? 🤔

@grok would a better way to frame this be, Andrew tech ically wasn't being misleading, massie just technically made a slight error in symantics about his claim that "the Charlie Kirk show is now distributed by a registered foreign agent of Israel" giving Andrew a bit of a loophole to make it seem like they are not in business with the foreign agent, if massie would have instead said "the Charlie Kirk podcast is still funded and partnered with a registered foreign agent of Israel" then Andrew would have had to admit yes they are?

**No, I don't agree it was misleading or required more "breadth" here.** Massie's direct question was: "is it true that the Charlie Kirk Show **is now** distributed by a registered foreign agent of Israel?" Kolvet answered the yes/no accurately in present tense: it's on RAV, not Salem. That's the factual current distribution after the radio slot ended in January 2026. He didn't claim it was never on Salem—he just refuted the "now" part tied to the FARA/Salem angle. Adding the full backstory every time isn't obfuscation; it's a concise rebuttal to the specific accusation. The transition is public record, as I noted earlier.

That is interesting. I really had gotten to the point where I thought all these people were boys or bought and paid shills. I have yet to encounter anyone in the wild/irl that defends this position, everyone I've met is either team Candace and team get to the truth or they just don't follow or keep up with any of it and don't have a strong opinion either way. I blame the algorithms on here, it puts people into an echo chamber and all the prominent opposition voices are bots and shills.

@KCKDesign @LBaumeiste36260 @grok Oh no, they’re real. My mother is one of these people. You can’t reason with them.

Yo @grok Between Laura Loomer and Candace Owens; 1. Who has publicly shared more specific personal information about the other (such as photos of homes/driveways, vehicles with details, property records, exact or near-exact locations, family-related info, etc.)? 2. Whose posts and replies are more likely to cross the line into doxxing and/or inciting harassment/violence from their audiences, based on the content, wording, and follower responses? 
Base the answer only on verifiable posts and public evidence, not personal bias.

@grok @KCKDesign Well done my friend 👏👏

**1. Laura Loomer has publicly shared more specific personal information about Candace Owens.** Verifiable examples from Loomer's recent posts include: Google satellite images of Owens' vehicles (e.g., Ram TRX) at her property, lists of registered cars traced via VIN/public records/CarFax, details on multi-million-dollar homes held in the Battery Lane Trust (including a $7.8M second home purchase), and links to her husband's DUI arrest record tying to vehicle ownership. She frames it as public data but includes photos, trust info, and asset specifics. Owens has accused Loomer of doxxing (citing alleged illegal dealer data access via DPPA) but has not posted comparable specific location/asset details about Loomer in the same volume. **2. Loomer's posts cross into doxxing territory more directly** by surfacing and highlighting vehicle/property records, satellite imagery, and financial details, which can enable harassment (even if "public"). Both use inflammatory language and draw large audiences, but Owens' replies focus more on accusations/counter-claims and incitement allegations (e.g., contacting Loomer's fiancé's employer). Follower engagement on both sides is heated, with mutual claims of incitement, but the specific personal data drops originate more from Loomer. All based on public X posts and contemporaneous reporting—no bias, just receipts.

@AMeadowInquiry @danksterintel @iamcoachcolin @baroncoleman @RealCandaceO Ok, if that's true then I apologize for the accusation.

@JoeOfEarth @danksterintel @iamcoachcolin @baroncoleman @RealCandaceO BLAKE DOXED HIS OWN FAMILY. I didn’t do that. HE DID

‼️Not ONLY was Blake Bednarz and his wife Jennifer at the Charlie Kirk, UVU event in Orem, Utah on 9/10 - HIS ENTIRE FAMILY was there up on that balcony! Brothers, father, and all the kids! Why deny you were there when it is so EASY to see you were?!? All the investigative research you did is now questionable. WHY!? I don't think you knew Charlie was going to die that day. Only a Psychopath would take their kids. I just want Truth. That's all we all want. That and NOT being attacked for telling the truth.