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If anyone's looking for the 1980s Joshi set, here is a link to the playlist: vkvideo.ru/playlist/64011…
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Kadaveri
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This wouldve been an awesome conversation to have! Like what about AJ Styles ranks him at number 6, but HBK isnt even top 100 despite having lots of similarities!
Kinda weird to have two very similar wrestlers in terms of those “quantifiable qualities” in VASTLY different ranks
blkmessiah@ghostofkurta
This is the entire point of the process! Some people value the things other wrestlers do well more than what Shawn Michaels does well, or they see strengths in them where Shawn falters, hence why they think that wrestler is better than him.
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@NNNNNNMRN @RWApodcast That the guy KIA was a 19 year old Staff Sergeant tells you everything you need to know.
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@RWApodcast How is it possible that not a single one of those six soldiers noticed a drone flying right at them? Just how poorly is Israeli infantry being trained?
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@Switchblade97 By no definition was Hogan a 'global' star but Andre the Giant wasn't.
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Everything you've mentioned here is regional/national. Big Daddy isn
the biggest star ever in Britain only. El Santo and Rokidozan national heros. Jim London was a star in Greece & North America. Hogan was the first global star. The levels aren't the same.
Allan@allan_cheapshot
In Britain, wrestling did not need Hulkamania to become culturally visible. It came through music halls, fairgrounds, town halls, drill halls, working men’s clubs, Joint Promotions, ITV, and eventually World of Sport.
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@__commie__ @yara_sama @AManInTheSun There isn't a one party rule in Gaza. Most of the government are technocrats and other Palestinian parties are involved other than Fatah, who refuse to participate
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@yara_sama @AManInTheSun But you have no problem with hamas one rule dictatorship in Gaza for 20 years
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Misleading.
There was an unofficial boycott by every Palestinian party outside Fateh, due to a law requiring them to sign onto the PLO's program and commitments with Israel.
Turnout in Gaza was unprecedentedly low, at 21%.
Ihab Hassan@IhabHassane
People in Deir al-Balah, central Gaza demonstrating and chanting for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas following the victory of his loyalists in the municipal election. This was a clear message to Hamas, which received only 6% support in a recent poll.
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Amit Segal can say that but surely the most obvious explanation for why the Syrian government prefers to cut off Hezbollah from remaining supply lines is that it resents Hezbollah's role in supporting Assad and sees Hezbollah as a de-stabilising actor both internally & externally
Aaron Maté@aaronjmate
An Israeli journalist close to Netanyahu argues that the Al Qaeda offshoot-led Syrian government is helping Israel "strangle" Hezbollah. He adds that "it’s nice to see the new regime pay us back for the favor" of helping to topple Assad.
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@ArnoldFurious Try putting them into tiers first, getting it roughly right is more important than fretting over which way round to put your #72 and #73.
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How did people even put together their #GWE list? I've spent an hour jotting down about a hundred names and it's just impossible to put them in any sort of order.
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Fair enough. :) I think we should all separate "My Favorites" from "The Greatest". The 40th Anniversary of Tully vs Ron Garvin on World Wide Wrestling is coming up, and it's one of my favorites- don't criticize. If I say it's one of the greatest ever, feel free to criticize.
Kadaveri@Kadaveri
@CCMilani Sorry should say 'Because the person', weird autocorrect.
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@CCMilani @RandazzoTweets @davemeltzerWON Because the first who made the list thinks that Terry Funk is the best in-ring performer ever and Andre is the 9th best. It's not any more complicated than that really.
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@RandazzoTweets @davemeltzerWON Matt, always good to hear from you. My original point, which has been completely washed away: how is Terry Funk #1 on a list and Andre #9? In-ring performance and interviews? Sure, put Terry at #1. But how can Andre be #9? Drawing power? Hogan not in the Top 100.
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You lived through it. That means far less than watching a few cherry picked matches
John McAdam@CCMilani
This is bad. I cannot imagine the criteria for this, that's how all over the place it is. Funk #1, Andre #9. 🙄
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@ageofthefever The 'greatest vs. favourite' issue has been debated on PWO. forums.prowrestlingonly.com/topic/28811-gw… It's true that 'greatest' implies an element of objectivity, but that's why it's not a favourites list. There are some objective aspects of being great at pro-wrestling that we're looking for
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I think the mistake these fellas made was calling it “greatest wrestler ever.” That implies objectivity. People are basically making a list of their favorite wrestlers and getting upset when people criticize it. Should have called favorite wrestler ever.
John McAdam@CCMilani
It sure is! You got me there! Now, I have a question and this is NOT AT ALL related to the wrestling list: if someone told you that they didn't like "The Godfather" as much as they liked "Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot", would you take their opinion of films seriously?
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@ContrarianAlex Well you can't just tease us like that then not do it.
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@steel_aegis @stendhalist @Hidden_Collect So why did you say that Egypt was not "willing to even consider negotiations" before the 1973 war, if you knew that negotiations were already taking place years before and you even had opinions on Egypt's proposals?
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@stendhalist @Hidden_Collect They didn’t just demand withdrawing from Sinai, they were asking for a withdrawal to the 67 borders and a settlement of the Palestinian “issue”before any recognition. Just withdrawing from Sinai would have been giving it up for nothing. Maybe read more than just Wikipedia
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It took a war that killed tens of thousands for Israel to even budge on negotiations
Vakaris 🇱🇹@VakarisSan
This greater Israel nonsense that leftists seethe over is funny when you consider Israel had the Sinai and they gave it up for the sake of normalization with Egypt
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@TheRajGiri More people in the United States were watching wrestling in the 70s than in the 80s. However, they were split between many different regional promotions, so none of those promotions *individually* drew anywhere near as big as the WWF after it went national.
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How do you figure? The Hogan - Andre match on NBC did 26.6M viewers (that's the actual Nielsen #), SNME was doing like 7-10M viewers a pop, are you saying wrestling outside of WWF was drawing that many viewers before Hogan's run in the 80s?
Matt Farmer@mattfarmer93
@ChrisTodd420 @davemeltzerWON Wrestling WAS bigger nationally before Hogan. What Hogan did was help grow ONE company to heights we had not seen before. Pro wrestling as a whole declined under Hogan's time.
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@JaredMutchler @davemeltzerWON Most historians agree that the biggest wrestling draw of all time was Jim Londos.
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@davemeltzerWON No. I’m not talking after hogan. We know Austin and rock drew. I’m speaking BEFORE hogan. You know this, why are you playing stupid??
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@MangaGuy42 @RandazzoTweets @davemeltzerWON Pretty sure you can just use Google to find most of them, I haven't done any big deep dive on Andre so these are relatively well known.
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And yet Bockwinkel told me his most difficult and perhaps worst match ever was with Andre.
Matthew Randazzo V@RandazzoTweets
@davemeltzerWON It is hard to think of two people who it is more obviously stupid to criticize being on this than Terry and Andre, in whatever order. Megastars, mega-draws, mega-influencers for decades. Icons. Both great workers. Andre/Hansen miles better than any "*****" WM match you just gave.
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@MangaGuy42 @RandazzoTweets @davemeltzerWON This is what I'd go with. Left out the Hansen match, WM3 wouldn't have made my Top 10 anyway.
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@RandazzoTweets @davemeltzerWON What are the 10 best singles matches he ever had?
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@davemeltzerWON Dave you were complaining about people making judgements by "cherry picking matches" just earlier, yet now you're dismissing a wrestler because he allegedly had 1 bad match.
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@steel_aegis @Hidden_Collect This is completely false. Egypt was already in negotiations in 1971 and made peace proposals if Israel would fully withdraw from Sinai but Israel refused any peace offer that wouldn't allow them to keep part of Sinai.
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@snowboiiii This is all a bewildering response to someone having TERRY FUNK as their #1, who clearly does not have an equivalent level of critical acclaim as "Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot"
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this is funny because someone saying that the godfather is the greatest movie ever is not usually a sign that they’re a guy who has watched a lot of movies or has taste
John McAdam@CCMilani
It sure is! You got me there! Now, I have a question and this is NOT AT ALL related to the wrestling list: if someone told you that they didn't like "The Godfather" as much as they liked "Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot", would you take their opinion of films seriously?
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