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Keith Turvey PhD

@Keith_Turvey

Honorary Associate Professor IOE UCL. Past roles: Teacher, Principal Lecturer, Reader. @keithturvey.bsky.social

Brighton, England Katılım Nisan 2012
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Keith Turvey PhD
Keith Turvey PhD@Keith_Turvey·
@Helen_Amass As a primary teacher I tried to communicate the value of all the subjects I taught to all students, pleasure being one of those values. Not always successfully of course. Isn’t this just one of the joys and frustrations of the job?
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Helen Amass
Helen Amass@Helen_Amass·
"As an ambition for every child, the ‘reading for pleasure’ narrative is a bit of an odd idea: should everyone be doing PE for pleasure, or physics for pleasure?" tes.com/magazine/teach…
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Keith Turvey PhD@Keith_Turvey·
@jon_severs Not been pushed. But superficially used as a foil whilst practices detrimental to developing children’s understanding of the intrinsic value of reading in their lives have dominated.
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Jon Severs
Jon Severs@jon_severs·
A few months back, I started looking in detail at the responsibility on schools to focus on reading for pleasure. Despite a decade of it being pushed in schools more and more, young people are reading for pleasure less and less. What is going on? tes.com/magazine/teach…
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Barbara Bleiman 🎓 Education is Conversation
A thread from me on today's @tes article on reading for pleasure. Just because 'pleasure' is hard to define or mandate for, & much in modern life militates against it, doesn't mean we should abandon the idea of encouraging volitional, independent reading habits in young people.
Barbara Bleiman 🎓 Education is Conversation@BarbaraBleiman

@tes @jon_severs I find this piece a bit frustrating, to be honest, for these reasons: 1. Is it true that reading for pleasure has been foregrounded in recent times & not succeeded? I think not Intense focus on phonics in primary & 'no time' & highly structured, sequenced curriculum plans 1/

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Keith Turvey PhD@Keith_Turvey·
@Suchmo83 The pay off I’d suggest is that we risk reducing opportunities for affective engagement with texts which arguably we are starting to see in international data concerning reading for pleasure in England.
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Keith Turvey PhD
Keith Turvey PhD@Keith_Turvey·
@Suchmo83 Thanks for your in-depth responses and points which I think are important. My main concern is less the focus on teaching the alphabetic code, but the potential over-routinising valorising essentially one way of engaging with text.
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Christopher Such
Christopher Such@Suchmo83·
Pupils who can't read fairly fluently never want to read independently. And the number one reason pupils don't become fluent readers is the lack of scaffolded reading practice to build on what they learned from phonics and develop word recognition automaticity. >>
Tes magazine@tes

How to reverse the drop in children reading for pleasure? Experts have made four recommendations, including giving it a ‘higher profile’ within the curriculum tes.com/magazine/news/…

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Keith Turvey PhD@Keith_Turvey·
@Suchmo83 Some do appear to be concerned about the over teaching of phonics (see below). A story can be both linear and non linear in that it may have an over arching meta narrative with other narratives within it.
Karen Vaites@karenvaites

In his recent writing, and especially this talk with @ehanford, @markseidenberg is remarkably direct about the phonics overteaching problem that emerged in the Science of Reading era. “Typically developing children might not need all the instruction that was being specified in structured literacy, but — this is an important point — people said, "Well, that's okay, because it's not going to be harmful. if the kid gets extra instruction on these things or if they get extra opportunities to practice what they know." So there was indeed a sense that there wasn't much danger of too much of a good thing, so if it's good for dyslexics, it's going to be good for everyone. So what's happened? Well, if you treat everyone like they might be dyslexic, you get an intensive, slow, incremental approach to instruction, with no stone left unturned. In practice, what it's meant is a barrage of explicit instruction. So I would say the science of reading has an overteaching problem. Is all this explicit instruction necessary? No, because children don't only learn from explicit instruction. Moreover, the opportunity costs of doing all this instruction are huge. Instruction time in schools is limited. Teachers have enormous demands on their time. Over-teaching the components of reading eats into time for other learning activities, such as reading itself. So, I want to be clear here. Some explicit instruction is needed to help beginning readers get off the ground. There's no question. The whole language balanced literacy approach that came before did not do an adequate job with this. That had to be corrected. But the science of reading has overshot the target, because most kids aren't dyslexic, and most of the knowledge that supports reading isn't actually learned from instruction, as I'm going to illustrate. If you try to teach it all, you're interfering with or taking away from other learning opportunities that kids need.” @C_Hendrick @MeganGierka @ReadSimplified

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Christopher Such
Christopher Such@Suchmo83·
@Keith_Turvey I agree that learning is complex, but (a) I'm not sure how something can be both linear and non-linear without those words becoming meaningless, and (b) I don't think an over-focus on teaching kids to decode is even slightly the issue.
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Barbara Bleiman 🎓 Education is Conversation
'Over-teaching' of phonics in the 'Science of Reading era'. Treating ALL children as if they were dyslexic. Displacing vitally important aspects of reading. Many have argued this & been ignored. GIbb, DfE & those gaining financially from phonics schemes have much to answer for.
Karen Vaites@karenvaites

In his recent writing, and especially this talk with @ehanford, @markseidenberg is remarkably direct about the phonics overteaching problem that emerged in the Science of Reading era. “Typically developing children might not need all the instruction that was being specified in structured literacy, but — this is an important point — people said, "Well, that's okay, because it's not going to be harmful. if the kid gets extra instruction on these things or if they get extra opportunities to practice what they know." So there was indeed a sense that there wasn't much danger of too much of a good thing, so if it's good for dyslexics, it's going to be good for everyone. So what's happened? Well, if you treat everyone like they might be dyslexic, you get an intensive, slow, incremental approach to instruction, with no stone left unturned. In practice, what it's meant is a barrage of explicit instruction. So I would say the science of reading has an overteaching problem. Is all this explicit instruction necessary? No, because children don't only learn from explicit instruction. Moreover, the opportunity costs of doing all this instruction are huge. Instruction time in schools is limited. Teachers have enormous demands on their time. Over-teaching the components of reading eats into time for other learning activities, such as reading itself. So, I want to be clear here. Some explicit instruction is needed to help beginning readers get off the ground. There's no question. The whole language balanced literacy approach that came before did not do an adequate job with this. That had to be corrected. But the science of reading has overshot the target, because most kids aren't dyslexic, and most of the knowledge that supports reading isn't actually learned from instruction, as I'm going to illustrate. If you try to teach it all, you're interfering with or taking away from other learning opportunities that kids need.” @C_Hendrick @MeganGierka @ReadSimplified

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Keith Turvey PhD
Keith Turvey PhD@Keith_Turvey·
@AdamHighcliffe I didn’t get past the question as it’s fundamentally flawed to pose such a question based on a self report survey.
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thehighcliffeguy
thehighcliffeguy@AdamHighcliffe·
DRAMA on #EduTwitter as edu-content provider Adam Boxer asks: Why do 4-year-olds call out in class more than teenagers? The whole tweet's a binfire. But the lead question's a helpful reminder that a certain area of education just doesn't get kids & doesn't realise others do. 🤦
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National Consortium for Languages Education
Now that AI demonstrably outperforms humans in many tasks, the core question is what do we risk losing if we offload tasks to AI- what's acceptable? Teachers are using AI to save time on tasks, but do we risk 'cognitive atrophy ' the more we do this? @MutluCukurova
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National Consortium for Languages Education
Using AI to assess speaking and listening: exciting new developments to support teachers and motivate students, but important to focus on 1st principles and know what it is we're teaching and assessing. Teachers' knowledge remains key @VahidAryadoust & Christine Goh
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National Consortium for Languages Education
.@ProfKevinWHTai and Seongyong Lee show GenAI has great potential for supporting multilingual learners in contexts around the world but struggles with translanguaging as AI responds based on statistical probability which can reinforce standardised (dominant) language.
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National Consortium for Languages Education
AI for assessment and feedback with Prof Mary Richardson and Dr Catarina Correia @IOE_London : as AI becomes both assessor and tool, key Q's for teacher role. Engagement ≠ quality. Erroneous beliefs AI is unbiased and convenience always good. We still need a human in the loop.
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National Consortium for Languages Education
Using AI to practise language & cultural learning comes w risks: @drdavidweidai and @profzhuhua. AI prone to creating stereotypical scenarios & sycophantic agreement w user, while users react differently bc they know AI isn't human. Fundamental Qs re learner psychology & agency.
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National Consortium for Languages Education
How do we tame the AI 'beast' in language education? Prof Yongcan Liz & Yunan Zhang. When we start to use AI, what are the issues? Do learners and teachers have the same goals? This tension can help us shape and create a framework for developing AI-oriented educational products.
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National Consortium for Languages Education
Fantastic presentation from @joedale showing us in real time how to use AI to create a bespoke animated storybook from scratch, aligned to exam board vocabulary lists. Most tools FREE. Great stuff!
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