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@LukeFHan Modern Christianity is myopic: ldsdefense.com/essays/modern-…

This guy gets it! If this life is it, then either God is unfair or faith in Jesus is merely one way a person could be saved. It doesn't make sense.

@DrFrankTurek It requires revelation and authority to function, otherwise we’re stacking creeds on creeds, creating an incomprehensible patchwork of orthodoxy reliant on our own interpretative abilities.

If you could make everyone understand ONE thing about Christianity, what would it be?

@ThoughtfulSaint In his defense, most trinitarian theology utilizes divine simplicity and “the one” - so they really don’t believe God loves you, but rather that God simply is love (or something like that)

God does not love you?

@Faustzme @BuzzzStryker @IanWrisley Where, would you say, is Christ’s physical body now? Floating in space or on a planet? And how would that affect the theology in any way with either?

@LDSdefense_ @BuzzzStryker @IanWrisley Um, wasn’t your god a man on another planet?

Mormonism claims to lead folks to God and Christ. But brothers and sisters, let me be straight with you, it actually leads people away from the true God and the true Christ of the Bible. And that makes it extremely evil in its effect on souls. Not because every Mormon is a bad person (many are sincere and kind), but because the system deceives about the most important thing, who God is and how we’re saved by His grace alone. 
First, the God of the Bible is eternal, unchanging Spirit no beginning, no progression, one true God with no others beside Him. “Before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me” (Isaiah 43:10). “God is a Spirit” (John 4:24). He doesn’t change (Malachi 3:6). Mormon scriptures and Joseph Smith teach something totally different: God the Father has “a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s” (D&C 130:22), and He “was once as we are now, and is an exalted man” who lived on an earth like Jesus did. That’s not the God of Scripture. Praying to that version is directing your heart to a false god. It leads you away from the real One. 
Then there’s Jesus. The Bible says He is the eternal Word who was God, Creator of everything, uncreated, the only begotten Son in a unique way (John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:16-17; Hebrews 1:2-3). Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last (Revelation 1:8). Mormon teaching? Jesus is the firstborn spirit child of the Father spirit brother to Lucifer (Satan). A created being who progressed to godhood. That’s “another Jesus” (2 Corinthians 11:4). Trusting in that Jesus isn’t trusting in the real Savior who died and rose for you. It pulls you away from the Christ who can actually save. 
Salvation? The pure gospel is grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone not of works, so no one can boast (Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3:28; Titus 3:5). Christ’s work is finished (John 19:30). He did it all so we rest in Him. Mormonism says “by grace… after all we can do” (2 Nephi 25:23) and layers on baptism, temple ordinances, endowments, celestial marriage, and enduring to the end for full exaltation. That’s a different gospel grace plus your performance and rituals. Paul warns that another gospel is accursed (Galatians 1:6-9). It shifts trust from Christ’s sufficiency to your efforts and the system. That leads souls away from real reconciliation with God. 
By swapping the true God for a progressed man, the true Christ for a spirit brother of Satan, and the gospel of grace for a works mix, Mormonism leads sincere people away from the only name under heaven by which we must be saved (Acts 4:12; John 14:6). This isn’t minor theological difference, it’s eternal souls at stake. Scripture calls false teachers and false gospels what they are, dangerous deception (Matthew 7:15; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 2 Corinthians 11:13-15). Leading folks from the real Jesus and His finished work? That’s extremely evil in its spiritual impact. The good news? The real gospel stands, Repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ alone. Grace is free for sinners who trust Him. Test everything by Scripture, friends. Grace and truth to you all and may we all be slaves to Christ.

@BuzzzStryker @Faustzme @IanWrisley You stated a definition of Christianity defined within your own framework (begging the question), LDS theology fulfilled that definition and God being mortal didn’t conflict with your own definition (non-sequitur) unless it undercuts your own theology regarding mortality: Christ.

@LDSdefense_ @Faustzme @IanWrisley You are misusing the term "non sequitur," btw.

@BuzzzStryker @Faustzme @IanWrisley Can you prove a theology is false by its divergence from your own theology?

@LDSdefense_ @Faustzme @IanWrisley LDS theology is that God the Father was once a man like us. Want the Mormon reference?

@BuzzzStryker @Faustzme @IanWrisley LDS theology holds that God is eternal, supreme, and created all things. If believing that God once had a mortal body is a problem for you then you undercut your own theology, see: Christ. You still haven’t established what a Christian is - you still have a non sequitur.

In Christianity, God is eternal, meaning He was not created and has no beginning or end. He is described as the Supreme Being who created and preserves all things, existing outside of time and space. Under Mormonism, God was a mortal man who got promoted into the job. We are not the same. Mormonism is not Christian.

@BuzzzStryker @Faustzme @IanWrisley The most non sequitur of non sequiturs. Also begs the question: “my theology says that my theology is correct!”. Make an actual argument instead of lazy disagreement.

@LDSdefense_ @Faustzme @IanWrisley LDS theology holds that "God the Father" was once a mortal man. You are not Christian.

@IanWrisley @Faustzme When I say borrow I speak in terms of what would be necessary to resolve the tension, not as a historical account of lineage - although if the LDS claim is true then it certainly predates Catholicism.

@LDSdefense_ @Faustzme lol Catholic theology predates lds theology by 1400 years. It does not borrow from a theological construct that did not solidify until the early 20th century

@IanWrisley @Faustzme @LDSdefense Dang, where did you correct me? I missed it.

@Faustzme @LDSdefense_ Additionally, you appear to be laboring under the assumption that I'm mormon [I most assuredly am not} and not just irritated by people who think they know more than they do. I've corrected your equally silly interlocutor, @LDSdefense

@MickMilee Which Christian tradition? They have vastly different theologies regarding hell and how to get there.

If Christianity is right, every Muslim is going to hell. If Islam is right, every Christian is going to hell. One of them has to be right. That means at least 2.5 billion people are burning forever. For being born in the wrong country. A loving God. Apparently.

Is Christianity myopic? Does it address the billions of people, places, and eras that the gospel doesn’t reach or address the granular nature of our differences? ldsdefense.com/essays/modern-…

@sola_chad It survived because it kept adapting by merging with the Greek philosophy that made it look weak by comparison and via violence against those who disagreed with the orthodoxy. Christianity was barely Christianity by the time of the restoration.

Christianity didn't survive because it was popular. It survived because it was true.

@LukeFHan I don’t think most people were subscribed for their theological takes. The temple recommend expressly requires us not to promote teachings contrary to the church, they certainly started to skirt that line. I enjoy engaging with opposition, but paying them to oppose is a problem.

I hate disagreeing with the people I most like on X. But we really need to be careful not to attribute motive, this extends beyond Matt and DW. This post and comments agreeing with it (from people I deeply respect) are saying Matt responding to backlash can ONLY be attributed to loss of subscribers AKA money. Matt may be making good money as a Catholic commentator now, but he didn't start that way. He quit his job to do Pints with Aquinas having no idea how he could make a living off of it. Jeremy Boring, Ben Shapiro, and Andrew Klavan have a track record of sticking by unpopular beliefs about Trump regardless of the financial implications. Klavan has commented repeatedly how much he doesn't care that he lost many subscribers for criticizing Donald Trump. Ben has said the same on his position on Israel. Have they noticed a dip in subscribers over the Mormon stuff? I have doubts. Even 150,000 cancellations would be a ~1% drop in their subscriber base over 3 months; which might not even register in the usual subscriber ebb and flow. But let's say they did, why all of a sudden would this issue be the one where they flip their position to do damage control? Because to be frank, way more people care what DW says about Israel and Trump than Mormonism. It doesn't add up. You can always make the facts fit your narrative, exmos do it all the time to argue the Church is only motivated by money. We should try to avoid doing to others what others do to us. And as a test to see who reads all this before responding: no I am not making an argument for why you need to subscribe to Daily Wire. I am merely trying to have a conversation about how we should extend charity to others.

@JSGleason136245 @LatterdayLogic You don’t need to twist logic to recognize the tension in suggesting that 3=1 while simultaneously saying it’s illegal to suggest that God is 3 or just 1. It’s like describing a house to every last detail and insisting you don’t call it a house.

@LDSdefense_ @LatterdayLogic We don’t find it a contradiction. You do in your twisted logic.

Your #trinity sure has distinct roles and responsibilities as if it's tritheism. Slapping a sticker on it saying "this is one being" doesn’t make it true. If it walks like 3 Gods and quacks like 3 Gods, it's probably 3 Gods. Oh you thought "one God" was literal? How cute.#lds

@PatsKam Welcome to the apostasy.

This is going to ruffle feathers, but not a single person in Scripture prayed to Mary and nowhere are believers told to do so. EVER. It actually says the opposite. 1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.”

@Sola_GPT Immaculate conception completely undermines Catholic claim to authority - it was unbiblical, but became a popular belief and was accepted into orthodoxy by pressure from the populace rather than authoritative elucidation.

“Evangelicalism is too feminized”

@Sola_GPT @JoshuaBarzon “Heresy” is begging the question, it only means something inside the framework that produces the charge. My response to it is “if you’re not going to burn me at the stake, then make an argument, as we both acknowledge we disagree on theology”

@JoshuaBarzon Interesting when prots accept the Catholic Church authority on what is a heresy for hundreds of years and then suddenly the church is the one committing the heresies What changed?

You get to eliminate one heresy from church history. Which false teaching would you eliminate?

@Manhattva @sister_slay @rogerecoff My latest two essays are eye opening on this issue. The trinity is incredibly Greek and unbiblical, it doesn’t demystify the Godhead, it just enforces what language to use around It and tries to punish anyone for not using it while admitting that God is expressly unknowable.

@rogerecoff If you cared about what the Bible said, You wouldn’t believe in the Trinity.

@GreenJimmy @Manhattva @RobertHerguth He was not, he was simply a regular member. His bowling record was as relevant to his crimes as his church status.

@LDSdefense_ @Manhattva @RobertHerguth Eh, I dunno. If I replaced the headline with the “Catholic Priest” would it still be dishonest? The guy was a church figure, was he not?

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