@yuansidol Unfortunately, just because you’re POC doesn’t make this discourse any less unnecessary
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Piderman
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yes bc how are yall not listening to actual filipinos....
iris amelia@devoutposter
Anyone else feeling genuine despair over how stupid the discourse surrounding this is
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I know this probably wasn't the original intention of the ube ice cream guy but with how he's now getting defensive and catty about gentrifying ube ice cream I should mention that everyone arguing that "develop" and "invent" aren't the same are not very good at English.
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@buckysbiwife How is making ube ice cream stealing your culture and how does this white man relate to filipino farmers in any way
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black people are allowed to be mad at koreans and white people for stealing their culture but filipinos aren't allowed to be mad when our culture gets stolen and our farmers exploited? fuck you.
#3 sisterwife but #1 in his heart@prettycritical
the anger at this like he said he patented the ube seed. he made a recipe! as in coming up with a new way to make vegan ube ice cream! when you say "my mom's chili recipe," it doesn't mean she invented chili lol. it means that's how SHE makes it.
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@houndsmann Genuinely what the fuck did they steal? Is ube being gatekept or something??
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"not that serious," "stupid discourse," said by the whitest person you'll ever meet
remove AAPI since you won't even consider the voices of people whom you stole that ethnic ingredient from
iris amelia@devoutposter
Anyone else feeling genuine despair over how stupid the discourse surrounding this is
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@monicaferil Except he didn’t present it as “newly” developed, he presented it as developed in a culinary sense which we have established has a different context. There is no basis here, y’all are just fighting to fight
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@mikaru_shiran Honestly the whole thing could’ve been prevented if he just said he developed a new vegan ube ice cream recipe. Just adding a new in there or at least clarifying that it’s a new recipe developed for their machines instead of being snarky would’ve been better
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bro literally couldve just said "for AAPI month i made filipino ube sorbetes! :D" and nobody wouldve had a problem
maple!@phainonkaslana
guys the issue isnt that he "developed" a recipe .. its him basically calling it some deconstructed vegan coconut ube ice cream instead of naming it as the actual thing: FILIPINO SORBETES ! its downright cultural erasure WHAT ARE WE NOT GETTING HERE
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@YourJynx @keaturefeature Didn’t she apologize and the mob decided it wasn’t good enough? Also apologies mean nothing to this group of people because they’re never accepted cause you all deem them as shallow and fake bffr
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What does “take accountability” mean?
If your ‘critique’ does not have a clear call-to-action, it is useless.
“Take accountability” has become a useless, mealy-mouthed phrase without real substance behind it. The ‘meaning’ is hidden, bc it is ugly: “i want to bully you.”
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@D3follower Yeah probably. But that just sucks because it’s so nice to have a creator that actually WANTS to interact with their fans but ofc twitter activists genuinely have to ruin it for everyone else with shallow moral righteousness
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@Lethargy333 I think she just doesn't want to waste time on this madness. On the other hand, there are manga artists with official accounts who simply make announcements and explain the lore.
I think that's a safer interaction.
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Kei Urana was so kind and interactive with her fanbase and was even wanting to help bring manga to others areas of the world so people didn't have to pirate.
What she got in return was harassed constantly and people forcing issues that she never caused.
Ran her off here, sad
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@jankahater Y’alls activism is so fucking shallow it’s absurd. You make the community you’re fighting on the behalf of look bad when you take things like this too far. Black people had every right to voice their criticism for the cosplay, white people had no right to bully Urana off this app
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kei urana is genuinely one of the most ignorant people I’ve ever seen, how are you going to block your fans, of a demographic that is not your own mind you. For an opinion of the way you’ve treated and chosen to talk about THEIR demographic that you’ve included in your manga
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@D3follower We should start gatekeeping from middle schoolers then if they can’t behave themselves✌️😭
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@Lethargy333 Not mine. I'm an outside observer. It was just obvious that if you run an informal account, sooner or later you'll run into some disgruntled people. This x.com/zengugi/status…
Zency the Frenzy@zengugi
Gege was right. If I were a mangaka and active on social media, I would end up arguing with middle schoolers too.
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@D3follower @Ameri_DS “All you can do is insult those who disagree with you” encapsulates the harassment Urana faced pretty well💀 y’all’s activism is shallow and shitty bruh
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@CGTgoat16 @UMA_Nero There’s a difference between “calling out” and harassment. The issue was addressed and she apologized, but y’all don’t want to let people learn and change you just want someone’s head on a stake for your entertainment💀
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Y'all this wasnt an open invitation for Gachi fans to speedrun their way to top 1
Nero // Art Grind - Comms Open@UMA_Nero
The four WORST communities I've ever had the absolute misfortune of interacting with
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@eli777melodies Eli you sweet summer child. I’m just gonna block. You can’t provide decent sources with the things I’m asking for, you don’t understand what a logical fallacy is or why personal anecdotes are not a complete valid source for a larger argument. And you think being a victim of abuse
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@eli777melodies “When children are punished without understanding why their behavior was wrong, they may focus on the loss of privilege rather than the lesson behind the consequences” omfg it’s literally saying the use of grounding is ineffective not that it cannot be used effectively
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@eli777melodies And there’s a thing called logical fucking fallacy for fucks sake get in a goddamn college course or stop talking to me like you know anything about proper debate or sourcing
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@eli777melodies And I told you, without a study I can reference myself, I’m not gonna immediately trust word of mouth when many sources are becoming corrupt🤷 and even if I did, that’s one article out of many you’ve provided me with proper sources and you still haven’t addressed the several
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@eli777melodies Please TRY to give me literally any source that substantiates that grounding is inherently flawed when you’ve given me several posts that prove the latter. I DARE you
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@eli777melodies @MelanieSent Okay so you’re just reiterating what I said. Taking things away can be effective punishment under the right circumstances, such as taking the device away. Aka grounding
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@Lethargy333 @MelanieSent A reasonable punishment for them using your credit card would be to have the child reimburse you for the charges through extra chores or lose screen or device privileges for a set time not take away their ability to see friends or leave the house.
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@eli777melodies @MelanieSent Having doctor attached to your name doesn’t mean much in an era where sources are constantly being tainted. If there are no labeled studies that I can research myself without the word of this person, then there is no provided evidence. Word of mouth is not enough
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