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AI product manager , I build and deploy agents

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Liberal thinker
Liberal thinker@Liberal_philosp·
@daneelchia Not possible , Indians have totally takenover corporate politics at big tech. Checkout google so many geniuses just rated mid tier while nobodies become VPs. Look at msft researchers languish. Guys known for writing buggy sql queries at hyd now decide who gets billions
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Daniel C
Daniel C@daneelchia·
Most diaspora know this: The only way for the USA to out‑Chinese the Chinese is to let the Chinese Americans lead. Make them the boss, remove the bamboo ceiling. In tech and finance, Asian talent already drives the core work, but leadership pipelines are still broken. The Chinese diaspora is the USA's best edge in the Chinese century.
Westside L.A. Guy@WestsideLAGuy

If the U.S. loses the AI race to China, it will not be because of our immigration policy. 1) China is now an advanced country. Its best & brightest are not as drawn to making a future in the U.S. vs say 20 years ago. 2) American culture is not well suited for the AI race as it is fundamentally anti-academic competition & intellectual elitism. We do not revere STEM talent. Young talented men flock to fields that will reward them -not just financially- but via status, social prestige, respect. In China the STEM geniuses are demi gods, akin to how we treat pro athletes & top influencers. 3) The latter point was the central theme of Vivek Ramaswamy’s infamous Christmas tweet. Yes he should have been more tactful in how he expressed his view but it was indeed a salient one as it pertains to the current Sputnik moment. 4) The Right mistakenly thinks the solution is just “accept more Americans into STEM Phd programs.” But as I alluded to earlier, our best & the brightest don’t want to do it. This thus requires a fundamental reorientation of American culture, one that our society would reject as we are not a Confucian society.

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Liberal thinker@Liberal_philosp·
@quxiaoyin No copilot has access to your wntpwris3 specific data teams ecosystem jira etc. Which is needed for any feasibile deployment of ai models. I can't imagine kimi getting access to that anytime soon. Unless China becomes aggresive geopolitically till then AWS Azure will win.
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Liberal thinker@Liberal_philosp·
@Kimi_Moonshot Act like a frontier lab threten humanity, global peace end of civilisation . Fear monger not crib that we don't have enough compute . Total noobs !!!
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Kimi.ai
Kimi.ai@Kimi_Moonshot·
Kimi K3 has received far more love than we expected, and our GPUs are feeling it. Over the past 48 hours, demand has pushed close to the limits of our current capacity. To protect the experience of existing subscribers, we're temporarily pausing new subscriptions and prioritizing compute for current members. Existing subscribed users are not affected. We're adding capacity as fast as we can and will reopen new subscription spots in batches. Going forward, we'll also split membership into two more focused plans: Kimi Membership for Kimi Web, App, and Work; and Kimi Code Membership for coding workflows. This will help us match compute more precisely and keep the experience stable. Thank you for your patience and understanding!
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Liberal thinker
Liberal thinker@Liberal_philosp·
@bojie_li Satya is highly political. He took randos who wrote buggy sql queries from hyderbad office and made them superstars now advising us govt and leading multi billion dollar vc investments . Chinese had a chance till you had steve ballmer, it was over once satya came.
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Bojie Li
Bojie Li@bojie_li·
Many senior researchers in Microsoft Research Asia did not have a chance to have a 1-1 meeting with Satya for their entire 20 years of career. However they are able to have a coffee chat with every senior leader in Tencent, Bytedance, Alibaba, etc. Even a PhD graduate like me had a chance to have a 20 minutes report to Ren Zhengfei and the Executive Management Team, and I met Mr. Ren for at least 10 times during my 4 years at Huawei. It is typically said that if a Chinese person moves from a U.S. company to a Chinese company of a similar scale, they will jump up the organization tree by three levels.
Russ Salakhutdinov@rsalakhu

I think there's a lot of confusion and misinformation about Zhilin's visa, H1B lottery, immigration, and why he left the U.S. Zhilin had many opportunities to stay in the U.S. if he wanted to. In fact, I was on an email thread with a senior Apple exec (Tim Cook's reports) asking whether Zhilin would consider joining Apple. I said that he wanted to go back to his homeland. The response was, well, we have an office in Beijing if he'd like to join there. But Zhilin was quite determined to go back and build a startup. I remember him telling me that if he didn't at least try starting his own company, he would regret it for the rest of his life. I respect that, and he was right. Many of my international PhD students do choose to stay in the U.S. Of course the U.S. immigration process can be quite intimidating and uncertain, even for superstar PhD graduates from places like CMU.

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Liberal thinker@Liberal_philosp·
@chontang My only worry is aws Azure will wrap these open source models will host and make giagintic profits. Similar to brands like Nike, China needs to figure out a way where they don't end up making birkins for 100 dollars being sold at 100k $ By someone else.
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Chon Tang
Chon Tang@chontang·
For all the AI bros Chinamaxxing ight now... they're just getting started, and OpenAI / Anthropic are in serious trouble. It's interesting to recall that just a few years ago, it wasn't clear to me at all that Chinese AI was going to "make it". Let's think through all their constraints: - compute deprived (obviously), - capital deprived (compared to US frontier labs) - they weren't raising the billion dollar rounds common in the US, - customer deprived (they were a) substantially behind the US frontier labs - even Chinese customers preferred going over the wall and using Claude, b) non-Chinese customers weren't paying them. And yet - against all odds, they delivered. And now they're over the hump, think about where they are now: - customers throughout the world are applying for API keys as we speak. - that compute gap is about to close, as Huawei/others launch their clusters; - they're no longer capital deprived, almost all of the top funds have raised billions in the past few months, and K3 will IPO + raise billions more later this year. In other words, you haven't seen *anything* yet. 12 months later, I expect Zhipu, DS, Kimi to all be substantially stronger then they have been.
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Liberal thinker@Liberal_philosp·
@boscobian @vkhosla Meta is dropping 20m $ for the team he was with. Considering he was publishing papers with yann lecunn I'm sure 100 mil is not off the table. .. Even mark can't keep dropping billion $ packages for all fresh ai grads?
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Vinod Khosla
Vinod Khosla@vkhosla·
Agree, 100% we shouldn’t be tying ourselves in knots. Even bigger issue is the brilliant talent we are scaring away from other countries with our immigration policies for great talent.
David Sacks@DavidSacks

This is concerning. For the first time, a Chinese model Kimi K3 has taken #1 on the Frontend Code Arena and is scoring at or near the frontier on other benchmarks. Meanwhile America is tying itself in knots: politicians and bureaucrats are banning new data centers, piling on state regulations, and pushing for new federal agencies to pre-approve frontier models. This is how you lose the AI race. The rest of the world won’t play by our rules if we bog ourselves down. Permissionless innovation is how America won the internet and became the technological envy of the world. We can do it again with AI -- while addressing risks in a targeted way -- or we’ll watch our lead evaporate.

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Scott Chen
Scott Chen@alreadydawn·
It's hard for some American tech bros to comprehend, but maximizing total comp isn't the ultimate goal for everyone. Some people might care about contributing to their own country's prosperity. Some might not want to slave away for ZOG. Some might simply not enjoy living in America (especially after 4+ years in Pittsburgh, lol). Or maybe all of the above.
signüll@signulll

kimi’s founder & ceo got his phd at cmu. why didn’t he stay in america?!

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JUNDE WU
JUNDE WU@JundeMorsenWu·
I’m an AI PhD at Oxford wanted to move to the US for years, but it never worked out. Maybe I can share why. To me, it feels like the US is making it harder and harder for Chinese talent to come or stay. First, Trump signed PP10043, which meant I couldn’t go to the US for any graduate school. That’s why I had to turn down my Stanford offer and come to Oxford. Later, I qualified for an EB-1A (the extraordinary ability green card). But because I was born in China, I’m stuck in a country-specific backlog that could take another 4–5 years. Meanwhile, on the other side, I’m getting 3–4 emails from China almost every week. They offer high salaries, free housing, generous research funding, and even offered an astonishing amount of money just for me to come back and have a conversation. I’ve always loved the American spirit. I truly believe my abilities could have a bigger impact there. But honestly, the whole process has been incredibly frustrating. All of this makes me wonder whether I should just give up. Why am I spending so much energy trying to go to a country that doesn’t seem to want me, when another country is doing everything it can to bring me back?
signüll@signulll

kimi’s founder & ceo got his phd at cmu. why didn’t he stay in america?!

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Liberal thinker@Liberal_philosp·
@Pranit indians sadly analyse this through indian lenses. They can't perceive why a successful would move back home. They don't know that huawei the year b4 gave median bonus of 200k$
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Pranit@Pranit·
@Liberal_philosp I was VERY impressed with China when I visited. The average Chinese city feels far more futuristic than the average American city for sure
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Jen Zhu
Jen Zhu@jenzhuscott·
I’m sorry, what??? 🤔
Dean W. Ball@deanwball

Some observations on Kimi: 1. It's a very good model! I don't think its performance can be explained away by distillation or anything like that. In agentic coding sessions, it seems pretty much on par with the best public models of Q1 2026. In my fairly limited use, it also seemed very token hungry. It's not obvious to me that this model is actually that cheap to run. 2. I am personally surprised the Chinese state continues to allow the open sourcing of models this good, given potential risks. To be clear, I *myself* might be fine with models presenting this level of marginal risk being open weight, but I am surprised that China is fine with it. I suspect the reason they are is 75% explained by strategic blindness/lack of AGI-pilledness (the CCP is very Yann Lecun-y in its views of AI). The other 25% or so is their lack of compute for customer inference (making China's open-weight strategy an unintended byproduct of US export controls) and the normal Chinese strategy of aggressive exports. For the companies, as opposed to the government, the decision to open source is partially ideological and partially because they are behind, and they know that very few people would pay for sub-frontier models from China. 3. Open-weight models are inherently decelerationist, and I'm continually surprised to see the so-called "accelerationists" so excited about open-weight models. I suspect the reason they are is that they know open-weight models are effectively ungovernable, and they simply like the overall cloak of ungovernability open-weight models create over the whole of AI. It's not a bad strategy; it reminds me of James Scott's recounting of the hill people in "the art of not being governed." Still, in the end, open-weight models deter further AI capex. 4. One probable outcome of an open-weight-model-dominant world is full AI communism, which is precisely what China proposes: rather than a market product, AI is a "public good" which will ultimately be provided by the state as a kind of "digital public infrastructure." This future strikes me as a dystopian hellscape, but I've never met an open-weight models advocate who doesn't ultimately concede this is where things end. You'd be surprised how many 'accelerationists' lobbied me, while I was in government, to support an eleven or twelve-figure federally funded data center so that startups could train models at a subsidy and then give them away for free. There was no other way for AI to progress, they said. Perhaps this is the logical end state of things. Nonetheless, I find myself surprised to see supposed accelerationists excited about such an outcome. I think many of them just don't know what they're doing. Many accelerationists do not view the creation and serving of frontier models as a legitimate business. 5. I would guess that the Trump Administration will at some point realize that their best strategy here would be to create large amounts of regulatory risk around the use of open-weight Chinese models. You don't need to "ban open source" (one of the dumber motifs of AI policy discussion). You just need to direct every agency to issue soft law that creates FUD. "A Federal Reserve Advisory Bulletin found that there may be backdoors in Chinese AI models." It needn't be that well justified. You just create enough regulatory risk that every regulated enterprise backs off. You probably don't want to create so much regulatory risk that you scare off the hyperscalers from serving Chinese models; this will just drive startups to sketchier providers. There's a happy middle ground here. I'd assume they will do some version of this. 6. It's probably true that open-weight models of this capability make the world a bit more dangerous, but not so much more that you'll really notice. At some point the models will be capable enough that you will notice. "A nonliving, invisible, dangerous, and infinitely self-replicating agent escaped from a Chinese lab," you say? Color me shocked.

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Liberal thinker@Liberal_philosp·
@KrishnanNayar1 @kejimao Yeah fault is nehrus 🤣. We had no foreign reserves to import back then. Buying directly as consumer on foreign e commerce websites like amazon.com costs 77.5% that's also nehrus fault ( while Traders and resellers pay lower )? For 12 yrs we had a shit policy
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Krishnan Nayar, retweets not endorsements.
India's lack of sufficient growth has many causes. But one of the biggest is lack of domestic business investment. Because Indian firms are used to the easy life of producing shoddy goods behind high protection tariff walls, imposed by Nehru and now very difficult politically for any government to abolish. Indian firms cannot compete in the world market and choose the easy road of investing abroad.
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Mao Keji | मुखर्जी
Never mistake the suffering and curses that China had for blessings—it is at once breathtakingly ignorant and clownishly absurd. 1) Few nations have survived a technological blockade and sanctions initiated by the US, let alone turned the tables to catch up and prevail. Seen in that light, China is nothing short of a miracle—the tariff wars, tech crackdowns, and product embargoes that began in 2017 did not break China — they forged it into something stronger. China may still offer rhetorical thanks to the US, but no one knows the ruthlessness of the US better than we Chinese. So Indians should be careful what they wish for, the "China's treatment." I can assure you, it is an ordeal, not a blessing. 2) Now, some Indians credit America's pressure for China's achievements today, yet the narrative back then was the exact opposite. When the US launched its sweeping crackdown on China in 2017, most Indians saw it as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Even Indian policymakers openly declared they would "jump on America's bandwagon" to replace China—this was the famous "China+1" campaign. America did hand India a golden opportunity, but did India succeed? Not even close. India didn't even rank among the top five beneficiaries of "China+1" at the end of the day. So spare us the lament about an unfair fate. 3) Here is a deeply uncomfortable truth: even if India were granted a protected domestic market, success would likely prove harder, not easier. Too many entrenched business houses in India sit waiting. They lack international competitiveness, yet expect the state to cordon off a permanent captive market for their overpriced, shoddy goods. But once they extract their superprofits, they do not pour that capital into R&D or cutting-edge products. They park it in overseas portfolio investment and real estate.
Paras Chopra@paraschopra

Why are Indian companies not developing frontier models? The answer is in economics, not talent. The biggest hurdle for an Indian company trying to develop frontier model is that right from the get go, it has to compete with Anthropic and OpenAI free plans + all Chinese open weight models. Chinese models mostly flourished due to the demand from their domestic market which OpenAI/Anthropic couldn’t meet as they’re unavailable in China. This unmet demand created space for innovation. China knows this story well, but here in India, we like unfettered, globalized free market, and that requires an upstart to compete with established companies from across the world. If India is serious about the AI race, it needs to create a massive guaranteed market for domestic AI or else it’ll be economically irrational for any funder to underwrite a product in a highly competitive, already established market.

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Liberal thinker@Liberal_philosp·
@kejimao Indians have been captured by t narrative that USA built china. Backed by couple of popular books with this narrative. This has led them to the slaughterhosue. The other is govt freebies, indian corporates instead of looking at competition in china want freebies from govt.
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Liberal thinker@Liberal_philosp·
@alex For the millionth time. Zhang yilling had all the options in USA. China is a great place to live , it's advanced modern . People stay back only for personal reasons and lesser work hours It works for Indians but no talented indian is going back. Theyve solved visa beuracracy
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Liberal thinker@Liberal_philosp·
@btcmos It's honestly not america.. working at google. I realised it is mostly corporate politics which is run in cliques , which is where Indians rise and they crush successful projects if they see someone as a threat
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香港老雷
香港老雷@btcmos·
Kimi k3的爆火, 让很多美国人都在问:kimi k3的创始人杨植麟当初为何不留在美国? 我现在就来回答这个问题: 1,在美国他只能成为一个月几万美元的工程师,而在中国他更有可能成为一家价值几万亿美元的、世界上最先进的AI实验室的创始人。 2,我毫不掩饰也不回避美国能提高普通人的下限,但同时也压制了亚裔(尤其是中国人)的上限,而真正的天才,很快就会触碰到天花板。所以美国有无数的底层偷渡客。 3,签证、心理认同和身份认同的限制,对真正的天才科学家而言,就是人格上的羞辱。 4,美国很多人并不那么尊重理工科工程师,觉得他们是木讷的书呆子,美国人更喜欢上课坐在最后一排睡觉,但是橄榄球打的特别好的运动健将。 5,美国的女孩子也不喜欢杨植麟这种类型的男人,觉得他没有性魅力。 最后问一个问题: 美国顶尖AI实验室的科学家50 %都是中国人,可为何他们都不是创始人? 为何他们到了中国就可以做创始人?并能成为顶尖AI实验室的最大受益者?
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