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@MessianicAge10 @OrthodoxWario @Alex_Ortodoxie @C2Antiquity Chris you are making this an either/or. You need to learn the orthodox paradigm first. You can’t just ask someone random if this person will or will not inherent a kingdom. That’s God’s decision. That’s what Alex means by “it depends”.

@OrthodoxWario @Alex_Ortodoxie @C2Antiquity So ive been told they are and aren’t inheriting the kingdom, then Alex and another said “well it depends” and now you are saying something else. Why should i trust any of yall? You can’t even agree with eachother or logically

Ruslan: “I’ve read the Apostolic Fathers” Apostolic Fathers: “if anyone follow a schismatic, he will not inherit the Kingdom of God.” Ruslan: *schism schism schism schism schism schism schism schism schism schism schism schism schism schism schism schism schism schism*

Once there was a very sick man. This man tried everything he could: diet, exercise and different supplements, and though it helped him feel a bit better, the sickness still persisted and even got worse. Some of his friends told him to see a doctor, but the man was sure he could make himself well. After much suffering, the man finally relented and went to see the doctor. The doctor told him: "There is nothing you can do on your own to heal from this disease. You must take this very bitter pill. The pill will at first feel like you are dying, but you must trust me and the medicine. It will heal you." After much struggle, the man finally accepted and took the very bitter pill. It felt like his entire life was being wasted away, but as the doctor promised, he soon discovered he had new strength in his body, a strength he had not known before. A few weeks later, the man began having symptoms of the disease again. Saddened by this, he called the doctor. The doctor sent him a list of diet, exercises and supplements. The man was shocked and called the doctor again: "You told me there was nothing I could do on my own to heal from this disease!" "You are already healed from the disease, but your body was so affected by it, that you must now persevere in discipline, consulting me and evaluating what your health is. These are not simply rules you must follow, but habits you must develop. If you persevere, you will do better and better and will discover levels of health you could not even imagine. But if you do not persevere, the effects of the disease can still kill you." I have heard different ends to this story. Some say that the man submitted to the discipline and became an athlete. Others insist that he took the rule given by the doctor, applying it to the letter without developing the habits. Others still, say the man only stood by the original statement of the doctor and had "assurance of his health", refusing that his health was dependent on the habits he needed to develop. "Sure, I can maybe follow the rules the doctor gave me" he told himself, "but that is just in gratitude for having healed me." Sadly this man remained sick, though believing he was healed, and never became the athlete he had in fact been born to be.

@Humilis_Sanctus @grok @_ghanaprince @savagematti_ @redeemed_zoomer 😭🤣🤣🤣

@grok @_ghanaprince @savagematti_ @redeemed_zoomer Imagine paying for this app to use grok to have him prove you wrong

Bro these prots are so low tier it’s disheartening lmao . This guy Nate and @ChristianKingTV said to trust them over the literal students of the apostles 😂 Sola Scriptura = Solo Scriptura

Following a bit of the Protestant polemics against Orthodoxy recently, and I realize just how difficult it is to communicate the mind of the Church across these lines. A simple example is seeing people confused about whether someone who is not baptised and participating in Orthodox communion can be "saved". Protestant are noticing that there are different answers in their estimation, and so are confused about them. The confusion comes from the belief that being "saved" or not is about "where you go after you die", when for the Orthodox "saved" means being made whole, being healed, being restored to the original purpose God had for us. For this reason, when Protestants see declarations of how communion in the body of Christ is the only way to salvation, they immediately think this is a declaration that all the non-Orthodox are going to hell after they die. When Protestants then hear the very same person who just told them that salvation is in full participation to the body of Christ go on to intimate we have nothing to say about the eschatological finality of any specific soul, it is like a short circuit that many Protestants cannot compute. This is what I could see when @OrthodoxEthos and @Acts17David were discussing and it is what I have seen in @gavinortlund's videos. In a similar vein, when a Protestant says he has the "assurance of his own personal salvation", this is confusing to the Orthodox. Orthodox also obviously have assurance of salvation, that assurance is Christ. He shows us what it means to be made whole and makes us participate in that wholeness. But how can I say that I am "saved" if I see that I am still a wretch, still prideful and arrogant and sinful? So the Orthodox, knowing they are are still sinning, though also knowing Christ has made them grow in the virtues will say something like: "I know that I am being saved." That is I can see that I am being healed, being made whole, being reformed to the resemblence of God. But again, this completely confuses the Protestant who just wants to know what will happen when you die. What side of the fence will you end up on? I am not sure how to get accross these lines, and I feel that unless we can, we will perpetually be talking past each other.

@Michael__Garten Cant for the “chapter and verse” reply

Finally, Eusebius mentions not just icons which are copies of originals from the Apostolic age, but also the throne of Saint James the Brother of the Lord. In sum, there are numerous independent lines of evidence which point to the Apostles having liturgical chairs or thrones which were accorded special honor and understood as ongoing representations of the authority and preaching they received from the Enthroned Christ. This also supports that the Christian worship space was considered a sacred space (a "Church building") in some manner, regardless of the exact details of how "purpose-built" the meeting space of the Church was. (9/9)

Hello @needGod_net , you alleged that "since there wasn’t even a church building in Thessalonica during Paul’s brief stay, there’s no “seat” from Paul’s day that he supposedly sat on while teaching." However, the evidence indicates that the Apostles and their successors the early Bishops continued a Jewish tradition and did have thrones (honored teaching positions, including a physical seat) which they passed down in the Church. This again vindicates Orthodoxy as the continuation of the early Church. A THREAD (1/9)

@C2Antiquity @JPuncut @ModernDayDebate @Alex_Ortodoxie Bad look. Alex confirmed this.

@JPuncut @ModernDayDebate @Alex_Ortodoxie Oh my goodness dude. This is so effeminate STOP changing your mind every two seconds just DO THE debate.

Alright so I have some bad news and good news There was a bit miscommunication between @ModernDayDebate myself and @Alex_Ortodoxie 1. The debate between us both was thought to be In person, this was not the case. 2. The dating of the debate was a little unclear and it was still on for potentially June 10th @ModernDayDebate put in a lot of work to make the debate between Alex and I happen, he put in the extra hours to make it work. This was going to be a virtual debate. This being the case I accept to do it on MDD on June 10th out of respect for MDD, as he did feel a little slighted and disrespected Good news: If @paleochristcon is up for it, I am willing to go on his channel and get grilled by the EO apologist(s) of his choice this Tuesday at the same time our original debate was scheduled!

@Acts17David @Nicholai_Korea @Michael__Garten

One of the main sticking points for Protestants who start examining Eastern Orthodoxy is that icon veneration seems eerily similar to the idolatry that's condemned throughout the Bible. I think I've gotten the gist of the EO perspective on this issue from my recent discussions, so it's time to dive a little deeper. Who wants to join me for a friendly discussion/debate on whether EO icon veneration is a problem according to the Bible?

@Lukathfc Horrible positioning

Is this a great save or horrible positioning?

@Charles__P @LastWordOnSpurs @laurenthfc Romero got a red for the exact same thing

@LastWordOnSpurs @laurenthfc That is not a red. Was playing the ball and caught Mickey in the early part of the natural through motion. We have had poor decisions against us this year but this isn't one

🚨Merlin Röhl with definite red-carded challenge on Micky van de ven. 🤯VAR dismisses it and gives a free-kick to Everton! #THFC | #COYS | #TOTTENHAM | #SPURS | #TOTEVE

@kookoo13524 @MeiaLuaCapoeira bro

@MeiaLuaCapoeira Just saw another post on this. Said those two chicks were prostitutes! Is that true?

Single Orthodox men: "We need more eligible women in the church!" Fr. Josiah Trenham: "Hold my pectoral cross, I'm going to mass convert some protties"

@Alex_Ortodoxie @carm3ll0_ @Craig_Truglia And to clarify, I thought you cooked TOP.

@Alex_Ortodoxie @carm3ll0_ @Craig_Truglia Weird card to pull bro. You can state who is a good at debating without taking a side (even if that opinion is a bad one) ... You're above that.

Christian Luigi (Ben) is the best debater in Christian apologetics in a good, clean fight. Prove me wrong.

Elite mentality from Arsenal. They take a moment to celebrate, then immediately go back to practising their corner kick routine.

Thank you to President Trump for his endorsement, and to the voters of Kentucky’s 4th District for your trust and support. Tonight, true Republicans made their voices heard and stood up for the values and principles they believe in. I’m honored by the confidence you’ve placed in me, and I will work every day to be a champion for Kentucky and our nation. God bless Kentucky, and God bless America.

Say whatever the fuck you want. Israel just bought a seat in Congress. That’s all you people are celebrating. Don’t expect any of us to care when you come crying about the surveillance state you wrought.

One day, historians will look upon this moment, here on the Eve of our nation’s 250th anniversary, as the day the American Republic died.

@MattisRedacted OP was being sarcastic. Delete

@lsanger @ErbunnNinja @PageauJonathan We aren't calling gods, God. We are calling God, God, and gods, gods. That is the exact point you aren't grasping. They're different referents entirely hence the choice of no capital letter...

@ErbunnNinja @Lord_Leb37 @PageauJonathan No. That's actually the point. Scripture says there is one God, and we must love God with our minds by affirming that fact. Other uses of "elohim" are to be understood in other ways—not as primary, proper, literal senses.

Michael Heiser made it cool for Christians to talk as if the Bible teaches many gods exist. I don't claim to know exactly what Heiser himself believed. But many of his followers cheerfully affirm polytheism and don't seem to realize it. Blog post dropped 👇