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@PhilipsTruthTM @PeterMcCormack @realninawysocka She was given the opportunity! And then she took a shit with her clothes on and was ousted by popular demand 49 days later. 49 days, coincidentally, is the average amount of time a middle aged woman takes to complete a full skin renewal cycle.

@PeterMcCormack @realninawysocka I’m with you on both of these 👍 Truss could have been great if given the opportunity.

Who’s been the best PM Britain’s ever had?

@JesusSavesUs777 @AgainstAtheismX Andy Whelan took a photo of his 4 year old daughter every day in the final agonising weeks of her battle with a terminal neuroblastoma. Confirming that the all knowing, all powerful and all loving god of Christian scripture is a BS fairy story.

@AgainstAtheismX The Creation confirms the Creator. x.com/JesusSavesUs77…

Atheists say Christianity is a fairytale... When the Atheist explanation is literally: Nothing + Time = Everything.

@SkyNews @robpowellnews I live in Jenrick’s constituency, I want a by-election.

"I don't intend to call a by-election." New Reform UK MP Robert Jenrick responds to @robpowellnews about whether he will force a by-election in his Newark seat following his defection from the Conservatives. trib.al/XA3RX7j 📺 Sky 501, Virgin 602, Freeview 233

@SphereChaser @the_hkbts777 @elliott______ @sebshearer @BritainisCool @reformparty_uk @IsabelOakeshott @ZiaYusufUK @drdavidbull @Iromg The Tories had a parliamentary majority of just 46 seats in May 2024 and the only reason they didn’t finish a full term was because they thought they’d lose fewer seats in a spring election than waiting until December.

@the_hkbts777 @elliott______ @sebshearer @BritainisCool @reformparty_uk @IsabelOakeshott @ZiaYusufUK @drdavidbull @Iromg So did the Tories & they didn't finish a full term.

If you don't think it's democratic that 33.7% of votes should give a party nearly 64% of the seats in Parliament, then please, sign and share as much as you can. Currently, your vote can be wasted, it can be ignored. Get your voice heard. Equality for all. petition.parliament.uk/petitions/7280…

@MarkCha75305548 @_Science_FTW_ @SoCalBobbyDeez @ThinkingAtheist That doesn’t support your point. Plenty of instincts are easily overcome. We overcome your survival instincts when we go on a rollercoaster. I overcome my procreation instincts by not sleeping with my wife’s step-sister, even though she’s as hot as hell and plainly up for it.

@ManAlive85 @_Science_FTW_ @SoCalBobbyDeez @ThinkingAtheist As C.S. Lewis pointed out, the unique thing about morality is that people feel it so deeply, yet defy it so routinely.

@MarkCha75305548 @_Science_FTW_ @SoCalBobbyDeez @ThinkingAtheist Humans don’t naturally kill each other. The overwhelming majority of humans are repelled by the idea of taking another human life. Similar to how we feel about sleeping with a rotting corpse. The exception to that is war where a person is put into a kill or be killed situation.

@ManAlive85 @_Science_FTW_ @SoCalBobbyDeez @ThinkingAtheist You're saying morality is just a natural survival mechanism, I'm pointing out that humans naturally kill each other. And that's just one example. When you think it through, I don't think "natural" works at all for morality.

@MarkCha75305548 @_Science_FTW_ @SoCalBobbyDeez @ThinkingAtheist I thought we were discussing the nature of morality, not why countries go to war? They are two completely different conversations.

@ManAlive85 @_Science_FTW_ @SoCalBobbyDeez @ThinkingAtheist We're still killing young men in Ukraine and Russia, by the thousands. So how that can be something learned and inherited, can't quite follow the logic there.

@MarkCha75305548 @_Science_FTW_ @SoCalBobbyDeez @ThinkingAtheist No, exactly, it was morally wrong to kill that young man because it hampered reproductive success. My point is that morality is a learned and inherited framework of values that we have developed in order to increase reproductive success, mostly through building social cohesion.

@ManAlive85 @_Science_FTW_ @SoCalBobbyDeez @ThinkingAtheist How about a young man who got killed storming the beaches at Normandy? That would have eliminated his chances of reproductive success.

@Un_B_Weavable @z8000783 @darwintojesus No thanks, I’m in bed with my wife.

@ManAlive85 @z8000783 @darwintojesus Let's talk. x.com/i/spaces/1ypKd…

-Atheism is a worldview -Real atheists don’t exist -Atheism can’t account for morality -Atheism can’t justify doing science -Atheism can’t ground free will -Atheists don’t need evidence -Atheists know God exists

@Un_B_Weavable @z8000783 @darwintojesus You have failed to give an example of a moral tenet that serves a purpose other than increasing reproductive success. You have also failed to illustrate why cultures who have no knowledge of your god follow broadly indistinguishable moral frameworks to your own.

@ManAlive85 @z8000783 @darwintojesus Your position is just that humans evolve to behave in such ways (what is), and conflating that for how humans should behave (ought). Hence your position is guilty of an is-ought fallacy. If you disagree, I'd like you to explain what you think the "is-ought fallacy" is.

@Un_B_Weavable @z8000783 @darwintojesus Show me where have I made a single statement about how humans should behave? My position (for the 4th time) is that humans evolve to behave in certain ways in order to increase reproductive success. There is no ought.

@Un_B_Weavable @z8000783 @darwintojesus No, it isn’t. Either you haven’t understood what I have clearly and repeatedly said or you don’t understand what an is-ought fallacy is. Either way, you’re plainly not going to concede and I’m getting pretty bored of you trying to find threads to pull in my argument.

@ManAlive85 @z8000783 @darwintojesus This is an is-ought fallacy.

@Un_B_Weavable @z8000783 @darwintojesus I did, you must have failed to understand. Morality is a PRODUCT of evolution and evolution is driven exclusively by increasing reproductive success. Evolution isn’t SUBJECT to moral judgement - life on earth will fundamentally always adapt to increase reproductive success.

@ManAlive85 @z8000783 @darwintojesus It was question-begging because you never explained why it is good or obligatory to seek reproductive success and social cohesion.

@MarkCha75305548 @_Science_FTW_ @SoCalBobbyDeez @ThinkingAtheist Okay, I’ll be more specific. Can you give me an example of anything that is considered morally ‘good’ that doesn’t further social cohesion and increase reproductive success? Or, if you prefer, the inverse question. Your choice.

@ManAlive85 @_Science_FTW_ @SoCalBobbyDeez @ThinkingAtheist That's just finding synonyms - good/beneficial, wrong/detrimental. How can anything benefit or harm society unless there is some way that society is supposed to be? The concepts presuppose a creator with a plan.

@Un_B_Weavable @z8000783 @darwintojesus Weak!!!!

@ManAlive85 @z8000783 @darwintojesus A grounding is an account. Your account was question-begging.

@Un_B_Weavable @z8000783 @darwintojesus That’s because it’s only you who seems to require a “grounding” of morality. Morality it is a system of learned and inherited responses, nothing more. You asked me for an account of morality without the need of a god. And you got one.

@ManAlive85 @z8000783 @darwintojesus They may have some overlap in moral prescriptions, but they lack a coherent explanation of the grounding of morality. Just like you.

@Un_B_Weavable @z8000783 @darwintojesus What you have failed to account for is why, if your moral framework is dictated by the Christian god, it is broadly indistinguishable from the moral code of a Sikh or a Buddhist or a 3rd century BC Roman.

@ManAlive85 @z8000783 @darwintojesus Human reproductive success was said to be the ground or basis of morality though. You then have failed to account for why any behaviors would be obligatory, or how there could be such a thing as human rights, how humans ought to be treated.

@Un_B_Weavable @z8000783 @darwintojesus Human reproductive success is the reason human morality exists. Why do you keep using the term obligatory? There’s nothing obligatory about morality or human behaviour. Human rights are a code of ethics informed by shared moral frameworks.

@Un_B_Weavable @z8000783 @darwintojesus I don’t make any judgements about the right or wrongs of increasing human reproductive success. It’s not a moral issue. My point is that evolution is driven only by increasing reproductive success and morality is primarily a product of human evolution.

@ManAlive85 @z8000783 @darwintojesus Evolution doesn't have concerns because it is not a personal being. So, why think that reproductive success and social cohesion is good? Why not think extinction of the human race is good?

@Un_B_Weavable @z8000783 @darwintojesus Of course it’s relevant!! The reason you can’t answer is because human morality is ALWAYS linked to increasing reproductive success through social cohesion. Evolution is concerned exclusively with increasing reproductive success. Morality is a product of evolution.

@ManAlive85 @z8000783 @darwintojesus That's not a relevant demand if I claim morality is grounded in God. Now can you explain why it is morally good to further social cohesion and reproductive success?