@Shawn_Farash Excited about this year’s flat earth convention…I hear they’re bringing experts from all around the globe!
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Well-Marbled Musings
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Well-Marbled Musings
@MarbledWell7
Don’t have beef with anyone…just the “meating” of the minds.
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The Earth is not flat and the reason why I know this with 100% confidence is, if the Earth WAS flat, a cat would have knocked a ton of stuff off the edge already and that hasn't happened.
"Cat Theory" can not be debunked.
Flat Earthers are now devastated.
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@allbesaved You’re misapplying Romans 9-11…Paul explicitly taught that the broken off natural branches could be grafted back in, which we’re seeing occur today.
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Quite the opposite. Those who were consumed were not Sons of Jacob, for "not all who come from Israel [Jacob] are Israel", and "if you are Messiah's you are Abraham's seed, heirs to the promises."
Those who were consumed were cut-off from Israel, they were no different from gentiles, as Hosea said,
And she conceived again and bore a daughter. And He said to him: “Call her name Lo-Ruhamah, for I will no more show mercy to the house of Israel nor will I forgive them in any way....And she weaned Lo-Ruhamah and conceived and bore a son. And He said: “Call his name, Lo-Ami, Not My People, and I will not be yours.”
Only those who belong to the Messiah are the remnant of Israel. All others are lo-ami, "Not My People", i.e. Gentiles.
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No. The "Hebrews" are not still around. Nor are the Jews.
Only Israel is left, and they are those who belong to Messiah.
Josiah Geoffrey ✡️@JosiahForYeshua
Malachi 3:6 (NASB) “For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed.” We remember this especially right now during the Passover season. 3500 years later, and we Hebrews are still around. The Jewish people are here to stay. Am Yisrael Chai!
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@AwaitingChrist Its not opinion. Its scriptural. Messiah Yeshua doesnt return in secret to rapture believers before the 2nd coming. It doesnt fit scripture and someone's salvation is always worth fighting for.
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That's your opinion. There's Scriptural support to believe even if you're right, God is able to keep one from stumbling (Jude 24-25).
Regardless, it's not worth battling over.
B1Zz@Rr0@outtatime1977
@AwaitingChrist Grace for sure but this is a serious issue. If someone believes in a pre-trib rapture they are more likely to fall for the deception when it takes place. Understanding end times prophecy is just as important.
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@Markbhere2 @TheWordSmith95 Keep reading…it’s all about Him writing His law on our hearts.
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@TheWordSmith95 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. (Hebrews 8)
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Jesus kept the Passover (Matthew 26:17)
Paul kept the Passover (1 Cor 5:8)
Do you keep the Passover?
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@JstevensDK7 @TheWordSmith95 It might be hard to fulfill “as often as you do this, do it in remembrance of me” with that approach.
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@TheWordSmith95 And Biblically literate Christians know there is no need to as Jesus was the final Passover Lamb sacrificed once and for all.
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@ForTheLifeofTr1 @WassonWatch I think you’re referring to the fact that sometimes Paul quotes the septuagint and sometimes he translates himself directly from Hebrew. That’s what happens when you’re multilingual. Hos translations are legit and impressive.
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I never quite know how to feel about this. It is really good to see people learning about God's lessons, but very strange to see an adaption of a family's history into some forgein tale.
Wasson Watch Co.@WassonWatch
Today is Passover. We are in Exodus for our family Bible reading, and literally read about Passover yesterday. It is both a beautiful and terrible story. Pharaoh hardened his heart and refused to let God's people (the Hebrews) go. God not only warned him, but gave him tangible consequences for his refusal 9 times in the forms of plagues before escalating to the killing of the firstborns. Of course, God gave a way out. He always does. He said that anyone who put the blood of a sacrificial lamb on their doorposts would be spared. Skeptics and scoffers complain that this is not just, that a "good" God would not kill people for the "arbitrary" decision not to put some blood on their doorposts. But this is a backwards view of God and our relationship with him. You see, God is the creator, and he sets the standard. It is not for us, the creation to question or judge him. It is for us to humbly recognize that we are sinners, wholly undeserving of his grace, love, or mercy. It is in that context that God has given us a path to salvation. If we reject it, it's on us. The beauty of Passover is God used it to paint a picture of what he would do in the future. The sacrificial lamb was a picture of Jesus himself. The blood on the doorposts was a picture of Jesus' blood, shed on the cross for us. The deaths of the firstborns were the deaths we all deserve. Just as God's Spirit "passed over" the houses marked with the blood, he passes over those of us marked with the blood of Jesus. The Exodus of God's people from Egypt came at a great cost, as does our Salvation in Christ. Do you reject it? Or will you accept that which you could never earn? SOLI DEO GLORIA
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@ForTheLifeofTr1 @WassonWatch Paul (Sha’ul) was directly trained by Gamaliel, so he knew what he was talking about in terms of halacha. There’s no monolithic views on these things for Christians, just as Judaism has different opinions.
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@MarbledWell7 @WassonWatch Who doesn't listen to Paul? Paul?
NonJews can both eat as much leavened bread and don't have to eat any Lamb or offer one during Pesach.
Non Jews may not human sacrifice.
Interesting that you disagree with the Christians who believed last supper was Passover meal.
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@TheOvercomerMag I’m not a dispensationalist…just love and trust in God’s word.
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You’re assuming something the apostles never assume:
that “land, throne, and nations” must remain geopolitical in fulfillment.
But the New Testament shows those promises are fulfilled in Christ, not postponed into an earthly system.
Throne?
“God… raised up Christ… to sit on his throne” (Acts 2:30–36)
Peter doesn’t say “will sit.”
He says He is seated now.
Kingdom?
“Who hath delivered us into the kingdom…” (Col. 1:13)
Not future —> present.
Jerusalem?
“Jerusalem which is above is free…” (Gal. 4:26)
“Ye are come unto mount Sion…” (Heb. 12:22)
Not earthly geography —> heavenly reality.
Land?
The apostles never preach land as real estate in the Middle East. Never!
They preach:
inheritance in Christ
a heavenly country (Heb. 11:16)
an incorruptible inheritance (1 Pet. 1:4)
So the issue isn’t “spiritual vs real,” it’s shadow vs fulfillment
The prophets spoke in land, throne, and nation language.
The apostles show those realities fulfilled in:
Christ
His kingdom
His people
Moving fulfillment back to geography isn’t faithfulness to Scripture, it’s stepping behind the apostles and undoing the way they revealed everything fulfilled in Christ.
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Yes, it’s a good line of questioning and shows they don’t actually listen to Paul’s teachings either:
“Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know the saying, “It takes only a little hametz to leaven a whole batch of dough?” Get rid of the old hametz, so that you can be a new batch of dough, because in reality you are unleavened. For our Pesach lamb, the Messiah, has been sacrificed. So let us celebrate the Seder not with leftover hametz, the hametz of wickedness and evil, but with the matzah of purity and truth.”
1 Corinthians (1 Co) 5:6-8 CJB
bible.com/bible/1275/1co…
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@MarbledWell7 @WassonWatch Yeah, this what I'm talking about, very strange.
As in, Jews recall families' exit from Egypt and gratitude to God for it.
And someone else comes along and explains they really should be celebrating their nations god, which is really their God, not celebrate God's Exodus. Weird
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This is what Scripture says:
“So now Adonai says — he formed me in the womb to be his servant, to bring Ya‘akov back to him, to have Isra’el gathered to him, so that I will be honored in the sight of Adonai, my God having become my strength — he has said, “It is not enough that you are merely my servant to raise up the tribes of Ya‘akov and restore the offspring of Isra’el. I will also make you a light to the nations, so my salvation can spread to the ends of the earth.”
Yesha 'yahu (Isa) 49:5-6
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@MarbledWell7 @WassonWatch That may be true (though woman who called herself dog eating at table story may indicate otherwise)
But Paul said recruit whomever. And Christianity claims that it is specifically not seed/ descendants /family of Israel.
Why the strange shame over not being Jews? Why pretend?
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Friend, there were no such thing as Christians in existence when Yeshua (Jesus) died and rose again, all right around Jerusalem. All of his followers were Jewish, practiced Judaism faithfully, and viewed his death and resurrection in accordance with messianic prophecies of the Tanakh, such as:
“We all, like sheep, went astray; we turned, each one, to his own way; yet Adonai laid on him the guilt of all of us. Though mistreated, he was submissive — he did not open his mouth. Like a lamb led to be slaughtered, like a sheep silent before its shearers, he did not open his mouth. After forcible arrest and sentencing, he was taken away; and none of his generation protested his being cut off from the land of the living for the crimes of my people, who deserved the punishment themselves. He was given a grave among the wicked; in his death he was with a rich man. Although he had done no violence and had said nothing deceptive, yet it pleased Adonai to crush him with illness, to see if he would present himself as a guilt offering. If he does, he will see his offspring; and he will prolong his days; and at his hand Adonai’s desire will be accomplished. After this ordeal, he will see satisfaction. “By his knowing [pain and sacrifice], my righteous servant makes many righteous; it is for their sins that he suffers.”
Yesha 'yahu (Isa) 53:6-11
“and I will pour out on the house of David and on those living in Yerushalayim a spirit of grace and prayer; and they will look to me, whom they pierced.” They will mourn for him as one mourns for an only son; they will be in bitterness on his behalf like the bitterness for a firstborn son.”
Z'kharyah (Zec) 12:10
And there are many others.
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@MarbledWell7 @WassonWatch That's Christian teachings, which is trying to graft onto family celebrations they are not part of. Kinda like celebrating your brothers birthday and not your own.
Or Americans pretending they are Britain. (Which would be much closer to reality)
Just strange, good intention
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@ForTheLifeofTr1 @WassonWatch If you were born on July 4th, it would still be your birthday. So, two things can be true at the same time. Also, the Tanakh is replete with prophecies about the suffering servant (mashiach ben yosef).
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@WassonWatch I don't mean it as an insult, it is just strange to me that the story is being made into some other people's tale.
It would be like Israel claiming the July 4 was about Bibi.
Sure there is Biblical inspiration for "declaring liberty across the land" but its another people's story
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@JosiahForYeshua This is such an important and profound meditation. Thank you, brother, for sharing it! 🙏❤️
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As crazy as it is, God’s wrath, judgment, and vengeance are a sign of His lovingkindness. We see this expressed quite starkly in Psalm 136, which recounts the events of the Exodus. The Psalm goes through a bunch of aspects of God and things that He has done as reasons to praise and thank God, because “His lovingkindness is everlasting” or “His lovingkindness endures forever.” But look at these verses:
(v. 1) Give thanks to the LORD, for He is good,
For His lovingkindness is everlasting…
(v. 10) To Him who smote the Egyptians in their firstborn,
For His lovingkindness is everlasting…
(v. 17) To Him who smote great kings,
For His lovingkindness is everlasting,
(v. 18) And slew mighty kings,
For His lovingkindness is everlasting…
(v. 24) And has rescued us from our adversaries,
For His lovingkindness is everlasting….”
Verse 10 gets me every time—God is worthy of thanks and His lovingkindness endures forever, as shown by the fact that He killed every firstborn in Egypt.
The reason why this violent, destructive act shows His lovingkindness is because He did it to free His people. The Egyptians were a guilty, oppressive nation, and God of the Hebrews was fighting them in defense of Israel.
When God wipes the wicked off the face of the earth, He is showing His lovingkindness by giving justice and avenging the righteous. When God refrains from punishing the wicked, He is showing His lovingkindness by extending mercy and unmerited favor, giving the wicked an opportunity to reform and be saved from judgment. God is the Judge, and He holds us all in His hands. If we put our trust in Him, He will never make us ashamed, because He will always do what is right and best according to His wise understanding.
Psalm 136:26 (NASB)
Give thanks to the God of heaven,
For His lovingkindness is everlasting.
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Let me comment on the baseless assumptions about the 24 elders that you are promulgating.
1. The first assumption about them being “blood-bought” is not in the text. Rev. 5:9 is the song that the four living creatures and the 24 elders are signing about the Lord redeeming mankind. Please read Rev. 5:8 again and note the context.
2. Since the first assumption is baseless (are you claiming the four living creatures are humans aa well?), the rest of the assumptions fall apart.
3. The assumption that the righteous will only receive a crown after the resurrection is also baseless. Nowhere in Scripture does it explicitly teach that the righteous only receive crowns after the resurrection. To the contrary, Scripture teaches that the righteous are seated with the Messiah in heavenly places right now presently as a royal priesthood.
4. All of your assumptions are baseless and designed to distract from clear teaching of Scripture that the ressurection of the righteous happens at the final trumpet when Messiah returns, which is after the great period of tribulation in which many of the righteous will give their lives for the their testimony.
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"Any" honest observer? Perhaps an overstatement?
Note the following observations which exclude various classes from being a potential answer.
ONE. They are blood-bought (Rev. 5:9), so they can't be angels. They can only be humans.
TWO. They have their thrones and crowns already (Rev. 4:4), so they can't be OT saints or NT saints waiting for the resurrection. Saints receive their rewards at the time of the resurrection.
THREE. These can't be resurrected OT saints because the OT saints receive their resurrection and reward at the second coming.
FOUR. These can only be NT saints after their resurrection, for they are rewarded and in the throne room of God prior to the opening of the first seal.
The 24 elders are the heavenly priesthood. The 24 courses of the OT priesthood were an earthly pattern of the heavenly truth.
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— NOTICE THE ORDER OF EVENTS:
(1) descent of the Lord with the trumpet of God
(2) coming of the antichrist
(3) glorious public appearing of the Lord
— THE SAME ORDER OF EVENTS IN CONTEMPORARY TERMINOLOGY
(1) rapture
(2) tribulation
(3) second coming
— CONCLUSION — he makes a clear distinction between the rapture and the glorious appearance, and he sandwiches the time of the antichrist between them
Read more: soothkeep.info/eusebius-nine-…
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I haven’t ignored a single passage of Scripture. You are pretending that a reference to 24 elders in the heavenly throne room somehow proves your otherwise unscriptural view of the rapture. That would be funny if it weren’t a very dangerous way of interpreting Scripture. You’re not interested in what Scripture actually teaches; you only want to hold on to your beliefs even though they clearly go against Scripture.
Scripture teaches the resurrection of the righteous at Messiah’s return and that the resurrection must occur BEFORE the catching up of those who remain alive until his coming. That means, necessarily, that the rapture must occur after the great period of tribulation, in which many if the righteous will be put to death.
It’s ridiculous to pretend that the 24 elders somehow overrides explicit teachings of Scripture.
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You have to ignore each Scripture Lee just listed. - Kristen
You just proved this: I find it interesting how often men respond to a post with "you are making a bunch of assumptions," then can't intelligently articulate the assumptions they claim that you have made and why those assumptions are contrary to either the exegetical, historical, or grammatical facts. I think folks just throw this line around as a fancy pants way of saying, "I like my opinion better."
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@theocraticking1 Right, what is the point of an eternal covenant if God didn’t really mean it last time around?!?
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This is so self-defeating it is embarrassing.
Alexander Dugin@AGDugin
The Jews WERE the only chosen people. Before Jesus Christ came. The chosen people has entered in the Church and became its foundations.
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