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Marcus Ash

@marcusash

Leading Design and Research for Windows + Devices @Microsoft. #GoBlue

Seattle, WA Katılım Mayıs 2007
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Marcus Ash
Marcus Ash@marcusash·
@cadenzza_ @iAmBipinPaul @Pete_Brown I want to try to get to Europe sometime this year :) Spent some wonderful years in Berlin but never had a chance to visit Croatia. My wife did and she loved it.
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Mario@cadenzza_·
@marcusash @iAmBipinPaul @Pete_Brown Marcus, I have to say I appreciate the comms lately. Im just an anon but I have to say so far you are doing great job and I hope there will be a WIP on continental Europe soon :)
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Mario@cadenzza_·
If Microsoft manages to get File Pilot performance in File Explorer (and hopefully rest of the OS) I will cry tears of joy
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Marcus Ash@marcusash·
@cadenzza_ Thanks for catching this Mario. We rolled out a fix.
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Mario@cadenzza_·
Phone camera screenshot in official Microsoft documentation is killing me #how-to-control-windows-studio-effects-in-settings" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/…
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Marcus Ash
Marcus Ash@marcusash·
@JezCorden Appreciate you for keeping it real Jez. Helps our community of users and MSFT.
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Jez@JezCorden·
Over a decade ago, I started writing about Xbox, Windows/phone, and Surface. It's crazy how much change we've seen between then and now. 😱 Thanks for all the support over the years, no matter what happens, I'll keep doing my best for Xbox /Microsoft ecosystem users. 🙏🏻
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Marcus Ash@marcusash·
@shanbatla Our Insiders and 1B+ Windows 11 users would disagree with this comparison. Walter White too. But you do you.
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Marcus Ash@marcusash·
@thomasklemenc @cmuratori This is the point on perceived performance with the new Run experience. Feels as snappy as the previous experience while updated to our modern UI framework. Will think about how we post perf numbers in the future.
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Thomas Klemenc
Thomas Klemenc@thomasklemenc·
@cmuratori I like dunking on MS as much as the next guy, but in this case it’s dishonest. Posting their ms value did them a disservice. I counted 14 frames (58.3 ms) from physical button press to rendered on screen. It’s genuinely at least as snappy as the old one, even with animations off
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Casey Muratori
Casey Muratori@cmuratori·
I wanted to test this now-promulgated claim that "94ms time-to-show" - assuming that's accurate - would constitute Microsoft having "managed to improve the run prompt latency" that "nobody has had an issue with" in previous versions. On a 60fps* HDMI frame capture from my Windows 10 machine that's around a decade old (Intel i7-7700K @ 4.2GHz), there is one visible frame in between completing the click action and seeing a completely-drawn "run" dialog. The run dialog appears hollow for a single frame, then fills in (as shown). With just a capture, I can't tell if this is benefiting from a "hidden" extra frame of latency, because the Start Menu appears to take one extra frame to "disappear". One frame prior to the first one in the screenshot appears to have actually finished the click (the mouse cursor changed), but the Start Menu does an extra frame of color change on the text after that. Without looking at the code, I'm not sure whether to count that against "run" or against the Start Menu if we're being meticulous - and of course I don't know whether the "94 ms" (apparently median) time would have been counting that time or not. Either way, "94ms time-to-show" would clearly be a significant regression unless that number is measuring something very different from "response after completing the click on Run". The Windows 10 version on 9-year-old hardware appears to be responding within either ~33ms or 50ms depending on how you count the frames. Normally, I would now say "this means, best case, it will feel like a 30fps experience," but we all know how that would go. Apparently it is just horribly nefarious and misleading to tell people an equivalent FPS number to help them gauge the responsiveness of an interactive program in a casual tweet you make on social media. Of course, please note that I am not measuring total physical latency here (like mouse-to-event or submission-to-display) latency here, as I assume the originally quoted "94ms" was not measuring those things either. Either way, once there is a wide-release version of the new Run dialog, it will be easy enough to test if it has improved or not by running like-for-like captures, which I cannot do here because I don't have the new purportedly-faster version. * I apologize profusely for using the term "60fps" to specify the rate at which these frames were captured so you could have a reference for their temporal spacing. I realize that it is highly misleading to use FPS, especially when looking at only 2 frames. I should clearly have said "on a 16.66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 millisecond per frame capture", so that everyone would much better intuitive understanding of what was going on.
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Tom Warren@tomwarren

everyone is taking issue with the conflation of two perf metrics. I think the problem is people read optimizing for perf as making it much faster, but I think Microsoft’s point is that they’ve managed to improve the Run prompt latency (that nobody has had an issue with) despite adding more functionality (Command Palette) and redesigning it. So they optimized for the perf of the added feature set

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Sherief, FYI
Sherief, FYI@SheriefFYI·
does anyone use accessibility tools on Windows and is willing to chat a bit? I am discovering weird things like Steam having no support for Ax, VS Code having very little while Visual Studio 2022 being fully accessible, etc
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Niels Laute
Niels Laute@Niels9001·
PowerToys 0.99 is here 🎉🛠️ 🖥️ Control your monitors with Power Display 🪟 Move windows from anywhere with Grab And Move ⚡ Command Palette & Dock upgrades ✨ Plus tons of fixes and polish Check out the blog post to learn more: aka.ms/powertoys-rele…
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MourningGlyph
MourningGlyph@MourningGlyph·
Yo @marcusash and @windowsinsider! really sorry to bother, but this issue kinda annoys me a bit: in File Explorer, smooth scrolling is available on the Home and Gallery page, but the moment I switched to a new directory, there's no smooth scrolling. Here's an example:
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Marcus Ash@marcusash·
@alex @bacadd can you send us some representative queries that are slow for you?
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Marcus Ash@marcusash·
@JenMsft @koma3zur4 The sound designer that worked on the Windows 11 startup sound recently rejoined our team! The things he can do with sounds blows my mind.
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Jen Gentleman 🌺
Jen Gentleman 🌺@JenMsft·
@koma3zur4 Have you seen the a capella group that does all of the windows sounds? It's so cool
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こま
こま@koma3zur4·
windowsの歴代起動音を聞くのにハマってた時期がある
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phantomofearth 🌳@phantomofearth·
With more talk and hope around UI consistency in Windows 11 recently, I really hope these old Win8 spinning dots on the login and shutdown/sign out/etc. screens finally get updated this year. Please.
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