Matthew Auger

@nagz_the_dog @OMGTheMess You muppet. What’s the relevance of the GG to a state election? Go on, write her a letter…

@OMGTheMess How many completely disproportionate election results do we have to tolerate before something is done about it? Where is the governor general?

Similar to federal where 33% gets you 90 seats

@bob_merric75720 @ngaalga @OMGTheMess How does optional preferential voting help ON? Qld had it and NSW has it and apart from 1998 Qld election ON has barely troubled the scorers. ON needs preferences from ALP and Lib voters to win. Without these preferences it’s going nowhere.

@MatthewAuger11 @ngaalga @OMGTheMess The last thing this country needs is a uniparty lite. ON has for 30 years stood its ground and people are railling against the current big 2. I'm centre right and ON suites me fine! Just like many Australians. I'm advocating for non mandatory preference voting. Look it up !

The voting system is flawed Large percentages of voters in SA are completely unrepresented

@Matt_Camenzuli Lib moderates would gladly have Malinauskas over ON. ON doesn’t win many seats because it does a poor job of generating some sort of appeal beyond those who vote for it. It lacks good pref flows from Labor and Lib voters because ON is beyond the pale.

Don't worry moderates, even though all of this is your fault, you will probably blame Antic anyway...

@mark16pg In the UK Labour won 63% of the seats with 33% of the vote. What are you babbling on about? The next UK election will see wild levels of tactical voting to keep Reform out.

Yesterday, the election in SA proved one thing the uniparty is entrenched with preference voting. In the UK they have two parties trying to save the country. They have a chance because of the first past post voting. We have one party trying to save the country . There is no chance with preference voting. It could be Labor in power for next 20 years until we are under Sharia Law.

@kevinbonham Also the idea of nationwide or statewide PR would go down like a lead balloon in the bush. There’s no way country voters will forgo a local member electorate. Imagine a referendum on the issue. Eventually ON would oppose it as their voters wig out over it.

Those ON supporters calling for this will generally not call for PR because what they really want is a system that turns their 22% of the primary vote into 22% of the seats but the Greens' 10% into no seats. And they can keep looking but no such system exists.

@bob_merric75720 @ngaalga @OMGTheMess You’re advocating for First Past The Post electoral systems like the UK and in 2024 Labour won 63% of seats with 33% of votes. If SA had FPTP ON would still win little. The best system for ON is compulsory preferences. ON needs to wake up and start appealing to other voters.

@MatthewAuger11 @ngaalga @OMGTheMess Why? You want 1 party, why do you have to choose a second,third etc just to make a valid vote?

@KaidenOZ @dgusto81 @OMGTheMess Idiot, we don’t have above the line voting in lower houses in Australia where governments are formed. Voters choose their preferences.

@dgusto81 @OMGTheMess people are not parties. preferences above the line let parties decide. not everyone has time to vote below the line. not rocket science mate.

One person one vote Excellent system As opposed to one person one vote that can be passed around

@bob_merric75720 @ngaalga @OMGTheMess We do have 1 person 1 vote. Everyone gets a ballot that counts as equally as everyone else. This isn’t Sir Jo era Qld with the gerrymander. Voter choose their preferences.

@MatthewAuger11 @ngaalga @OMGTheMess Why are they forced to ? What happened to 1 person , 1 vote?

@PinkPantherInc @PollBludger @grok First Past the Post which is what you are advocating for leads to the UK election in 2024 where Labour won 33% of the vote and 63% of the seats. 412 out of 650.

@PollBludger @grok is proportional voting democratic? Isn’t this what New Zealand does and it’s a disaster? Isn’t the fairest voting system in the world just simply whoever wins the most votes wins the seat?

Social media is naturally awash right now with calls for the abolition of preferential voting, which would do precisely nothing to address the issue being raised. Yet to be see in the wild (by me at least): a call for what would, namely proportional representation.

@tcrwdb @FreedmFightr1 Yes they do. Thats why they won, voters preferred Labor over everyone else. Note carefully the word preferred. ON won little because few voters prefer them.

@MatthewAuger11 @FreedmFightr1 Most voters don't want Labor to win.

This is why preferential voting sucks...

@parnellpalme @grantwyeth @jamesphilips88 Yep. Kooyong nearly went back to the Libs even with Dutton as leader and Tim Wilson picked back on off the Teals. Teals are highly vulnerable if associated with an unpopular Labor government, they’ve been poor in displaying any real independence.

I understand the difference very well and much more experientially than you might expect. I also know how the teals sold themselves in 2022 hasn’t played out in how they’ve aligned themselves since. They’re firmly off-brand Labor, regardless what they claim. (With the exception of Spender.)

In last night's ballot, formerly Liberal-voting South Australians have more or less simply switched their vote from the Liberal Party to One Nation. That's not so much a fracturing of the right, as looking for differentiation. Now you have people who want more say in the way politics is done lining up against those who think they've got about the right amount. The small number of voters who switched their vote from Labor to One Nation confirms that theory - these aren't people switching their entire world view, as people sick of not being heard. Both major parties have come to be seen as making decisions to benefit themselves instead of the nation. The Labor Party will keep losing votes to One Nation as long as they keep on doing what they're doing. The Liberals will only be an effective challenger brand (which is what they now are) when (and if) they are able to demonstrate to the electorate that they are more effective at giving people more of a say. People are increasingly deciding that they want genuine representatives, not politicians who take care of the politics first.

@mark_melbin @parnellpalme ON support goes far younger than boomers as any age breakdown of the polls in the last few months shows. Notably Gen X Men are strong supporters.

@parnellpalme In 5-10 years many of the boomers who voted One Nation will be dead.

@bob_merric75720 @ngaalga @OMGTheMess Voters chose preferences, what are you on about?

@ngaalga @OMGTheMess Why are they not represented by their first preference? Who gave politicians the ability to stack the deck? Moreover if the voters were serious ALP & LNP should have been at the bottom of the ballot numbering. Really just another protest vote gone wrong !

@OMGTheMess Voters got the result they preferred.

@tcrwdb @FreedmFightr1 Voters chose preferences. Most voters don’t want ON to win.

@FreedmFightr1 No, what sucks is the uni party where Libs are preferencing Labor over ON. FPP would result in a huge Labor win too.

One Nation’s problem is exactly this. It doesn’t win many seats because it is so unappealing to people who still vote Labor or Liberal. ON needs to work on being appealing not just for primary votes but for ALP voters to prefer ON over Libs and Lib voters to prefer ON over ALP.

@sandmanute @DrCameronMurray Dream on. No one in the bush would want nationwide or statewide proportional representation as nothing would get done for the bush.

@DrCameronMurray I’m over it. It should be first past the post and the lower house should be the same as senate. No seats, the party with the most votes gets the most sitting members. A local member does absolutely nothing for their own electorate anyway. That way it’s voted on majority by us.

Preferential voting is one of the few things in the Australian electoral system that helps minor parties. I have no idea why people keep claiming the opposite like this.

@FreedmFightr1 @DrCameronMurray Parties don’t decide prefs, voters do. Voters don’t give ON preferences because most voters would prefer any else but One Nation. ON needs to work on their appeal to people who vote Lab or Lib and look to get a high pref from the voter than the other major party.

@DrCameronMurray Yeah, 22% of the primary vote with major parties ganging up on One Nation ensuring they only win maybe ~ 8% of the seats. Really good system. 🤦🏽‍♂️

@john_macgowan It’s interesting how ON did quite well even in inner Adelaide seats. The aren’t just a rural protest party any more. The need to be more appealing to ALP/Lib voters though, lack of pref flows kills them.

South Australia is a big win for One Nation because they managed to deliver a primary that matches the published polls and now the voting public knows the lengths the major parties will go to stop them. They get 2 LC members to anchor their federal campaign in SA in 2 years. And they don't have to worry about their unvetted lower house candidates actually being badged members and causing drama. Interestingly, it seems like they listened to the early criticisms about how they campaign, and they really did deliver a pretty even application of collateral state wide, instead of just focussing on a handful of seats. Hopefully the next lesson they learn is they actually need to run background checks on their candidates. There will be a push now from the Libs to codify the strategy of locking ONP out by preferencing the ALP above them, short term this will mean Victoria will be a repeat performance of SA although their upper house provinces mean they'll likely get more upper house members out of it. The interesting campaign will be next year in NSW where it's optional preferential in the LA... The problem for the Liberals is the lesson learned from Labor's decades long war with the Greens. Labor does the same thing to them in hard races - and it has never resulted in a single vote going back to them.

@MerrymanPhd @matt_barrie Voters decide preferences. Maybe you should get some education.

@matt_barrie Sadly, education on how to vote and impact of completing voter cards is non-existent in a preference system. All candidates / individual seats must disclose what they intend to do in every election in a preference system prior & cannot change.

lol you can come second with 5.2% of the vote in Australia