Mind Trap

Some thoughts on explaining the Puppet objection to EDD (suggestions and edits welcome)

A Rabbi, a Priest and a Decon are standing at the pearly gates when the angel tells them "Fear not". They responded, "we are trying, but Chuck Norris is right behind us in line.

@blake_cannon10 @ProvisionistP Justify denying an entailment of Determinsm. Fixed plans? What ever he Aims to do He will do? Why you keep talking "within time" like that? God's decree from eternity past. He sustains all things. Not a single atom moves without God having Decreed it to be so. You know Determ

@Mindtrap028 @ProvisionistP Justifying what? That God has fixed plans ? That whatever God plans and aims to do he will do. Do you reject that ?

• Denying theistic determinism ≠ denying the Gospel. • Denying penal substitution ≠ denying the Gospel. • Affirming a partially open future ≠ denying God.

@blake_cannon10 @ProvisionistP I am not here to tell you what you believe or accept. Only to point out when there is a logical implication that you deny. Saying what you believe is hardly interesting.. your ability or lack there of to justifying it is.

@Mindtrap028 @ProvisionistP Determinism does not capture the nuances of the view point it sounds like fatalism but that is not what we believe

@AverageSc0t Well, first I would have to divorce my wife to have an X. .. She would probably do it for a paid vacation with me.

Nope! (And I only have 2)

@blake_cannon10 @ProvisionistP The "Debate" on word choice, is only that you are inconsistent by rejecting "Determinism" because it may sound bad or has some clear implication, only to turn around and stealth proclaim it under a new banner, which itself you contradict by denying Determinism. It is hierocracy.

@blake_cannon10 @ProvisionistP This is why "compatiblolism's" second tenent is to deny that same consequence. It is just official double speak.

@blake_cannon10 @ProvisionistP Again, Forgivness is the power of a Ruler. Christ appeals to His Authority as God to forgive the mans sin.

@Mindtrap028 @ProvisionistP No all forgiveness draws on his past or future death. We look back and receive it 2000 years after. Before it was applied before his death but because of it.

@blake_cannon10 @ProvisionistP That man was forgiven by a living Christ. He was forgiven based on authority, which exist in His Godhood. "Mat 9:6  But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”—he then said to the paralytic—“Rise, pick up your bed and go home.”

The basis of his entire ministry and forgiveness was his future death for sin. Sins were forgiven because he will die. The entire sacrificial system points to substitution. God forgives because a sacrificial offering is made. The animal died in the place of others. Jesus is the lamb who died and takes away sin. Your ignorance and twisting is astonishing

@DPGBehler When people appear to randomly laugh or get the giggles, it is because Chuck Norris told a joke and is just too quick witted to be perceived consciously.

Chuck Norris is so fast he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.

@TheMuppetPastor Chuck Norris first phone call was to "the wild".

Chuck Norris never carried a phone, because he answered to NO ONE!

@TheMuppetPastor Gardening was invented when a student of Chuck Norris miss heard "keep your guard up" as "keep your garden up". Vita Sackville-West just ran with it.

People think Chuck Norris was a master gardener, but all he did was glare at dirt as it handed him vegetables to appease his wrath.

@DoctrinalPossum @blaringharing @The_Idol_Killer Dude just hung up with Job.

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@blake_cannon10 @ProvisionistP Finally of course my view is scriptural. Calvinists just forget whatever text is not right I'm front of them.

- We are not fatalistic if that is what you are referring to synonymously with determinism. We believe in concurrence. God’s will and man’s will, running concurrently to accomplish his purpose. - God forgives by the shedding of blood. According to himself. God’s forgiveness is not without justice. On the cross God provides mercy and shows he is just. - True potentially does not require him to not know the future exhaustively. Plus your view is purely philosophical not scriptural.

@blake_cannon10 @ProvisionistP 3-potentiality granted defines what is known as potential and not actuality. You are conflating and confusing ideas to fit your box. Determinism entails a future that is actual not potential.

@blake_cannon10 @ProvisionistP To God the power to forgive and the instances of forgiveness without an appeal to death, but to Gods authority and power.

@blake_cannon10 @ProvisionistP 2- Christ forgave the man lowered from the roof as an expression of His power to forgive. The Jews did not object that there was no blood likewise the parable of the king and debtor, forgiveness was granter from the kings authority. So it is objectively attributed 1/2

@blake_cannon10 @ProvisionistP -Compatibalism, is the position that Determinism is true as it's first tenent. -God has the power to forgive sin. -Omniscience is not subverted by God creating true potentiality.

- Yes you are correct, though Calvinists are not determinists but most are compatibalists - No you are wrong: unless Jesus substituted for sinners there is no good news. - No you are wrong: Open theism denies an essential attribute of God - the omniscience of God redefining and reducing God to being a contingent being not outside of time but subject to it.