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Provisionist Perspective 🩸🌍
@ProvisionistP
Promoting and Defending God’s Love & Provision For Everyone (A Provisionist Podcast with @AverageSc0t)
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This "offer" is about as sincere as the "well meant" one to the reprobate on High [5-point] Calvinism.
Chris Harris@Pastor_ChrisH
It’s literally sitting here waiting. I can donate it to your favorite charity, give it to your church, or whatever.
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Send this to your friend you know will flip the table 😂
The Feminist Misogynist@igarglewithfire
Which one are you? 😂
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@SnarkyRevAlan @BornAgainBalaky "His actions dictated mine", said the Christian Fatalist, taking personal responsibility for his actions.
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@ProvisionistP @BornAgainBalaky That was in response to his obsession, his actions dictated mine. But of course keep going, you're funny!
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You're talking big for someone a weak beta that didn't show his face.
Just like a weak beta simp for Lizzie.
You're dismissed!
Blake Allen@BornAgainBalaky
@SnarkyRevAlan All continue to make fun of you for being a wittle baby too scared to show his face 😂 You trying to meet up and talk like men? We can set a time and place.
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@troywojick all i can say is that the conversation felt frustrating and like we were doing circles and talking past one another
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Sometimes, I think it's very important to discuss soteriology, and other times it feels entirely pointless. Everyone just talks past each other and inside their own pre-suppositions and framework and with their definitions of the critical terms.
The other side sees contradiction(s) in the entailments of that view, but when they call them out those contradictions are simply denied by the person with a different framework.
I'm not sure how to get past this loop.
How do we discuss these topics in good faith with a consistent biblical framework and definitions of these terms.
I'm not sure there is a good answer to this, but I'm all ears.
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POV: “so you made a better choice than everyone else?”
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@ProvisionistP @BornAgainBalaky God loves me and hates you. That's why i'm so humble....🤣🤣🤣
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And they say Calvinism isn’t man centered….
It’s definitely self centered.
Jerry Duckworth@jerry_duck48985
@Lets_Talk_HC Yes. God currently loves me more than you. If you repent and believe the Gospel, that may change. Who konws.
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@Pastor_ChrisH He called you a gnostic to demonstrate the hypocrisy.
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Yes, I didn’t think so, I only tagged you to maybe get some others who had.
And I know Leighton, although he has claimed it (even recently by explicitly calling me a gnostic), doesn’t believe Calvinism holds core tenets of Gnosticism. He uses it as what he thinks is a parallel to when someone like myself says something about Pelagianism/semi-Pelagianism to show the absurdity of the claim I and others make.
The problem is the claims are not parallel. While it is absurd to say Calvinism is Gnostic or affirms Gnostic core tenets, it is objectively not true that it is absurd to say Provisionism affirms core Pelagian (in part and yes I am more than willing and able to defend the claim) and semi-Pelagian core tenets.
I’m debunking the parallel, and doing so by offering very real cash ($2,000) on my side (to the first person who provides evidence of confessional Calvinism affirming even a single core tenet of Gnosticism).
I already have a defense written and ready (and objectively defendable IMO) to prove my claim on Provisionism, if someone wants to match my challenge for that side.
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I presented this challenge yesterday with a real reward if it is met. It’s still open by the way.
Utilizing the same criteria, does anyone want to offer the challenge when it comes to Provisionism and Pelagian/semi-Pelagian core tenets? I mean, the claim is that our saying Provisionism has some core tenet alignments with Pelagianism/semi-Pelagianism is no different than saying Calvinism has some core tenet alignments with Gnosticism, right?
Well, I put my money where my mouth is, are any of you willing to do the same? That is, if you truly do believe the comparison is the same.
@Soteriology101, @ProvisionistP @The_Idol_Killer or anyone else who makes this comparison with the claims. Feel free to tag others.
Chris Harris@Pastor_ChrisH
I see more and more of this from @Soteriology101 and his followers. The claim is that Calvinism either is Gnosticism or at least founded upon gnostic roots. Such a wild claim. It’s utterly baseless of course. I’m offering $2,000 to anyone who can prove that Calvinism (confessional Calvinism) has even a single core tenet of Gnosticism. Now, let’s see if the Provisionists also want to apply the challenge to Provisionism and Pelagianism/semi-Pelagianism.
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@ProvisionistP @TheMuppetPastor You beat me to the punch. When a local bookstore has a banned book display I often will go to the Bible section grab a Bible and put it on the display.
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Leftists think that a major corporation selling them books is an act of rebellion.
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@Pastor_ChrisH @Soteriology101 Be specific about what you would expect so that we know what objective standard is sought for proving “founded on gnostic roots”.
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I see more and more of this from @Soteriology101 and his followers. The claim is that Calvinism either is Gnosticism or at least founded upon gnostic roots. Such a wild claim. It’s utterly baseless of course.
I’m offering $2,000 to anyone who can prove that Calvinism (confessional Calvinism) has even a single core tenet of Gnosticism.
Now, let’s see if the Provisionists also want to apply the challenge to Provisionism and Pelagianism/semi-Pelagianism.
PersonhoodDad@PersonhoodDad
@NiceanRick @Soteriology101 @Pastor_ChrisH It’s funny that Calvinists have convinced themselves that this comparison isn’t valid while at the same time promoting the semi-Pelagian claims. Massive hypocrites.
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@Fletch1171 @Soteriology101 Eric and I alternated between middle and right lol
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@ProvisionistP @Soteriology101 Let's just pray-Leighton
Im gonna flip the table-Drew
Do it-Eric
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Calvinist “exegesis” of John 3:16 be like:
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@TheTruth114500 let me teach you orthography 101:
*Logic 101
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@ProvisionistP Let me teach you logicn10q:
The verses says "A will receive B".
It says nothing about *who* is A;
There you go.
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@RefRetrieval @ProvisionistP always have to point to the sign
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@RefRetrieval I originally had him looking like this but received the feedback that the hat was not recognizable enough so I apologize for implicitly lumping you in lol
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@hayasaka_aryan Young men looking for somewhere to belong and a community that embraces them…
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The Orthodox to trans pipeline is real now
Michael Orthodox ☦@Michaeldudufudu
Welp i guess this is it :P
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@SnarkyRevAlan @BornAgainBalaky You: “You guys seem really obsessed with another man's photograph.”
Also you:
Rev. Alan 🏴 The Snarky Pastor ⚓@SnarkyRevAlan
You're talking big for someone a weak beta that didn't show his face. Just like a weak beta simp for Lizzie. You're dismissed!
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@ProvisionistP @BornAgainBalaky Are you a f@ggot like Blake?
You guys seem really obsessed with another man's photograph.
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@farmingandJesus I don’t think it’s accurate to say that Jesus = the Word of God = the Bible
This would make all of the events recorded in the Scriptures eternal alongside the Eternal Logos (Christ)
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I’m the “retard” here but you don’t know I’m saying every word is breathed by Christ? You can’t understand that I’m not saying Jesus is a book but every word in the book is the words of YHWH, therefore JESUS
Rev. Alan 🏴 The Snarky Pastor ⚓@SnarkyRevAlan
.@farmingandJesus literally thinks Jesus is a book. This is something I see from the low churches all the time. How did they get this retarded?
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