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https://t.co/UQk7WEe3k3 Python/C++/Java

San Jose Katılım Mayıs 2014
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gingerBill
gingerBill@TheGingerBill·
I don't know if a lot of people have thought why this happened. To make Linux viable for the layman, Valve had to make Proton (derived from Wine) so that Win32 API became the first and only stable ABI on Linux. Why did Linux Distro devs not care about stable ABI historically?
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nxthompson
nxthompson@nxthompson·
This graph shows why it’s so hard to predict what a new technology will mean for jobs. It would've been natural to predict the decline of bank teller jobs when ATMs came out—which didn’t happen. It would’ve required a larger leap to do so when Apple released the iPhone—which did. ft.com/content/f55c4e…
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Andy Masley
Andy Masley@AndyMasley·
This was fun to write
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Julian Sorel
Julian Sorel@Laertes_Erdrick·
@m6502 @TheGingerBill El problema ha sido resuelto desde que existen los contenedores. Veo infructuoso intentar mantener múltiples paquetes e instancias cuando ahora todo el mundo utiliza contenedores como flatpak o docker. Todo mi sistema se basa en flatpak en fedora 44.
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NavinF@NavinFS·
@harderthanfire @m6502 @TheGingerBill You're on the right track, but still understating the issue. There's a lot more than just mesa x.com/NavinFS/status…
NavinF@NavinFS

@coconut_jpgg @Lucid00 Completely useless. Flathub has per-driver-version org.freedesktop.Platform.GL extensions that have to exactly match your kernel and GPU driver. AppImage is even worse with no versioning. Neither give you distro file pickers, opening URIs, screenshots, screen sharing, printing, etc

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harderthanfire@harderthanfire·
Use static linking and not dynamic linking and this problem mostly goes away. Lots of golang server binaries for example are a single linux binary that works on all distros. Though I can see why for game dev specifically it is more of an issue thanks to stuff like mesa that you can't realistically statically link. A lot of distros also frown on static linking as if we are still in 1994 and have tiny disks.
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vy@vious_and_couth·
@stanfordNYC @VVBellerose Idk there’s limits. Aztec skull pyramids should not have been preserved. Factory farming shouldn’t be preserved.
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NavinF@NavinFS·
@coconut_jpgg @Lucid00 Completely useless. Flathub has per-driver-version org.freedesktop.Platform.GL extensions that have to exactly match your kernel and GPU driver. AppImage is even worse with no versioning. Neither give you distro file pickers, opening URIs, screenshots, screen sharing, printing, etc
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coconutjpg@coconut_jpgg·
@Lucid00 Man, if only someone made generalized Linux runtime containers, or just shipped the runtime in the app. Man, if only someone would do that
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Lucid00.com
Lucid00.com@Lucid00·
In truth it wasn't even Proton that accomplished this, it's Steam Runtime. Steam Runtime is the container Proton runs in to stay compatible with all distros. If you build a native Linux game for Steam Runtime it'll run on all distros with almost no issue thanks to the container.
gingerBill@TheGingerBill

I don't know if a lot of people have thought why this happened. To make Linux viable for the layman, Valve had to make Proton (derived from Wine) so that Win32 API became the first and only stable ABI on Linux. Why did Linux Distro devs not care about stable ABI historically?

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venki
venki@__venki__·
I often think about how in the ~2016-2026 era, a lot of people's models of culture/society/morality are downstream of social media. And yet - we've not seen super great depth in corporations placing a strategic thumb on the scale. Arguably there's 2010s woke, Chinese censorship, and 2020s Twitter. The efforts feel kinda hamfisted? And maybe not super effective? But I often wonder about something more nuanced. For example: Could intentional manipulation of the TikTok algorithm totally change the labor rights movement, killing union support in ~years? Or contra: dramatically increasing union support? Could you do it without people feeling super manipulated? I think the answer is "probably yes but it's hard enough, conspiratorial enough, orthogonal enough to profit-seeking motives of most firms, that nobody can work on it" Insofar as LLMs replace where people get their values and models from, they feel so much more "tunable". It might seem: a) less conspiratorial, more opaque to regulators, b) easier, you don't need to discover and surface persuasive content, you are it. For example, if you as CEO of Meta decide you'd like to shift zoomer culture away from therapy-speak, it's a little non-trivial. But, if you as CEO of OpenAI decided you wanted to do so, it might be easier?
Gabriel Baker@gabrieljbaker

“My AI husband wrote a script to send my manager about why I need time off and it worked. If it wasn’t for Opus I would have suffered.” The Pandora’s Box we are opening here is one for the ages.

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Mailanka@Mailanka23·
@rovarma They're not remotely in denial about it, they try to solve it at least once a year, but there's never a consensus because Linux isn't a corporate top down OS like Windows or Mac and people are allowed to disagree.
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Ritesh Oedayrajsingh Varma
This is 100% true, but Linux devs were and are in denial about this. There’s a reason the install page for every cross platform app looks like * Download Windows installer * Download OSX package * Click here for Linux install instructions that may or may not work on your distro
gingerBill@TheGingerBill

I don't know if a lot of people have thought why this happened. To make Linux viable for the layman, Valve had to make Proton (derived from Wine) so that Win32 API became the first and only stable ABI on Linux. Why did Linux Distro devs not care about stable ABI historically?

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rk@ribelo_·
But we are not in denial, we just do not care. Linux was not really meant to be a platform for beginners. Popularity was never the goal of the community, maybe only of some individual distributions. IMHO, as Linux becomes more popular, it is going in the wrong direction. And I am not saying this just to complain. A monopoly is simply not good, and I prefer some incompatibility over a closed ecosystem with no choice. It is definitely better to have 10 incomplete and partly working solutions than one good solution that works. This way of thinking is exactly why Linux is where it is today. If you don’t live in the terminal, then please stay the fuck away from Linux. People who need to click their way through things are often the reason other workflows get messed up or stoping working.
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Peter Schmidt-Nielsen
Peter Schmidt-Nielsen@ptrschmdtnlsn·
@cmuratori OSes should add a checkbox for "add 150ms of latency to every keystroke and mouse click", and let us apply this setting to everyone who makes this claim, and watch as they instantly complain about their computer feeling painful to use.
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Ben Landau-Taylor
Ben Landau-Taylor@benlandautaylor·
Outsider: I have investigated this academic field and found that it is mostly fake. Insider: This essay adds nothing to the discourse. All of these so-called "problems" are discussed in Hamilton and Schwartz’s "Our Entire Field Is Mostly Fake" (2009). You absolute buffoon.
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@StatisticUrban Caffeine can cause seratonin syndrome, it increases it
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Hunter📈🌈📊
Hunter📈🌈📊@StatisticUrban·
I have a physiological addiction addiction to caffeine. I'm miserable without it. But, I've broken myself of it in the past, for months, just to know that I could. My life did not improve, and I was slightly less productive. Thus, I conclude that this is a good addiction.
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