NectarInASieve

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NectarInASieve

NectarInASieve

@NectarInASieve

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TishaCM🌷
TishaCM🌷@TishaCM·
Surrender for what? There isn’t a single case filed against Dela Rosa in any PH court, let alone a warrant from a local judge. Yet, these “minority” Senators want their own colleague to surrender to a foreign body. Good thing they are now the “minority”—they can no longer inflict further damage to the institution. These self-righteous lifers who have never stood on the frontlines nor been directly responsible for the safety of the Filipino people, are exactly why PH is in deep shit.
NewsWatch Plus PH@newswatchplusph

FIVE SENATORS URGE BATO TO VOLUNTARILY SURRENDER READ: A Senate resolution filed Tuesday, May 12, urges Senator Bato dela Rosa to “voluntarily surrender to the proper authorities and seek judicial remedies in accordance with the Constitution and applicable laws and rules.” The signatories are Bam Aquino, Risa Hontiveros, Ping Lacson, Kiko Pangilinan, and Tito Sotto — members of the new minority. | @eimorpsantos

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Atty. Sonny Matula
Atty. Sonny Matula@AttyMatula·
Nasa ICC po ang kanilang kasong crimes against humanity. Ang crimes against humanity ay erga omnes offenses — kasalanan laban sa buong sangkatauhan, hindi simpleng political disagreement lamang.
NectarInASieve@NectarInASieve

@chwelouis @AttyMatula Was there a case filed in the local court?

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NectarInASieve
NectarInASieve@NectarInASieve·
@firecentermore @TishaCM You are an IDIOT, that's my point. You keep on quoting RA 9851 that says pursuant to the applicable extradition laws and treaties. These laws require that due process be adhered to. Read Section 1, Article III of the 1987 Constitution. This what protects you from abusive govt
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firecentermore
firecentermore@firecentermore·
@NectarInASieve @TishaCM What exactly is your point? Your contention is that a local court issued warrant is necessary. I told you it wasnt citing RA9851. Now you are quoting “existing extradition laws and treaties”. So what extradition laws/treaties are violated sans a local court warrant?
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NectarInASieve
NectarInASieve@NectarInASieve·
@firecentermore @TishaCM Again RA 9851 - The authorities may surrender or extradite suspected or accused persons in the Philippines to the appropriate international court, if any, or to another State pursuant to the applicable extradition laws and treaties. Pursuant to laws and treaties.
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firecentermore
firecentermore@firecentermore·
@NectarInASieve @TishaCM RA9851 is what is controlling. It explicitly allows to dispense with local investigations and allows for surrender and extradition to int’l court. It doesnt state a local warrant is required.
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Pari Koy
Pari Koy@pads_nosi·
ALLAN PETER CAYETANO MUST BE HELD RESPONSIBLE OF THE SENATE FIASCO AND BATO’S ESCAPE!
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FrNongnong
FrNongnong@iskrukutoy·
The fact that Sen. Bato is seeking a TRO from SC against the ICC warrant is tantamount to recognizing its valiidty. Di ba? Otherwise, dedma nya sana yun. Lumalabas ang totoo.
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NectarInASieve
NectarInASieve@NectarInASieve·
@iskrukutoy LOL, don't know why you are so fixated with foreign or international. At the end of the day, ICC is created by the Rome Statute. Why don't you read Article 59 of the Rome Statute. Or that ICC is just complimentary, do not replace our Rights as enshrined in the Constitution.
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FrNongnong
FrNongnong@iskrukutoy·
Atty. Andres clarified that the ICC is NOT a foreign court. It is ran by some foreigners as agreed by nation members of ICC.Thus, their warrant is not from a foreign country but an international institution. SP and the majority are very wrong here. Obstruction. File a case na!
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firecentermore
firecentermore@firecentermore·
@NectarInASieve @TishaCM You really need this spelled out for you? Since we recognize the judicial authority of the ICC under the RA, then the competent judicial authority in this case is the ICC. You are cherry picking the text without fully understanding it.
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Mikee 🩷💚💙
Mikee 🩷💚💙@MikeeGulla·
IMPEACH & CONVICT SARA 👊 SIGN THE PETITION NOW impeachsaraduterte.com Iparinig ang boses natin sa @senatePH! We need accountability. Sa lahat ng diversionary tactics ngayon sa Senado, nangangamba ang taumbayan if matutuloy na ang Impeachment Trial laban kay Sara Duterte. ✊️
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NectarInASieve
NectarInASieve@NectarInASieve·
@ericab17619 @teddycasino What Teddy forget that the ICC is created by the Rome Statute, and under its Art. 59 the arrested person is to be brought before a competent judicial authority of the custodial state and not be brought the ICC automatically.
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𝙴𝚛𝚒𝚌 𝚂. 𝙲𝚊𝚋𝚊𝚕𝚒𝚍𝚊
🔥 Teddy Casiño: Fake 🇵🇭 Anti-Imperialist Turned ICC Sell-Out 🤡 – The Ultimate Sovereignty Hypocrite! 🔥 @teddycasino Teddy 🤨, you built your entire career 🗣️ screaming against American bases 🛡️, foreign meddling 🌍, and imperialist interference 🚫. So how the hell 😤 do you now kneel 🙇 before a Hague-issued ICC warrant ⚖️ like a desperate beggar, demanding it override our own Constitution 📜 and hunt a sitting Philippine Senator 🏛️? You rail for decades 🗣️ about foreign powers dictating to us Filipinos 🇵🇭. Yet here you are, cheering 🎉 NBI agents chasing Bato de la Rosa inside the Senate 🏛️ on a foreign court’s paper 📄 — with zero domestic judicial warrant from our own courts ⚖️! RA 9851 says “may” cooperate 🤔, not “must trample Senate immunity and parliamentary rules” ❌. We withdrew from the Rome Statute in 2019 🚪. The Supreme Court has live petitions on this exact issue ⚖️. But none of that matters to you when it’s convenient to attack Duterte allies, right? 😏 You celebrate this chaos as “justice” ⚖️ while calling Senate protective custody “coddling” 🛡️. Funny how Rule of Law 📏 and sovereignty 🇵🇭 suddenly vanish when a foreign entity is your weapon of choice 🔫. Duterte-era hero ka lang kapag convenient 🦸‍♂️ — loud “people’s champion” 👊 and human rights warrior back then. Now? Silent 🤐 on Philippine institutions defending their own elected member until our Supreme Court rules ⚖️. Selective outrage at its finest 🎭! This isn’t principled activism ❌. This is weaponizing a foreign court against political enemies 🗡️ while throwing your old nationalist principles in the trash 🗑️. Sovereignty isn’t a buffet — you can’t scream “Philippines First” 🇵🇭 against America then beg The Hague to boss us around when it suits your side 🙏. Rule of Law starts at home 🏠, Teddy. Our courts first ⚖️. Not foreign judges in Europe 🌍. Philippines first. Always. 🇵🇭💪 Thoughts, “kakampi”? 🤔 #SovereigntyNotForSale 🚫 #RuleOfLawPH 📜 #FakeNationalist 🤡
Teddy Casiño@teddycasino

Let’s be factual. There IS a warrant of arrest for Bato de la Rosa. It’s from the International Criminal Court (ICC). There IS a domestic law (RA 9851) that allows local authorities to enforce the warrant and surrender Bato to the ICC. On top of that, the SC had ruled that even if the PH govt withdrew from the ICC in 2019, we remain obligated to cooperate on cases involving incidents prior to the withdrawal. The NBI and PNP had every right to arrest Bato and the Senate was wrong in coddling him and facilitating his escape. Ang may problema si Allan at Jonvic.

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NectarInASieve
NectarInASieve@NectarInASieve·
@HowardTuanqui Does not change the fact that the ICC is created by the Rome Statute and should therefore follow article 59.
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Howard Tuanqui #Tumindig
Howard Tuanqui #Tumindig@HowardTuanqui·
Atty. Gilbert Andres, ICC-lawyer and counsel to the families of the EJK victims said, in an interview with Karen Davila: “Context is very important here. 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗜𝗖𝗖 𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝗻 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁, 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗮 𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗴𝗻 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁.” And I agree.
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MajorCrush
MajorCrush@CrushMajor·
Ang gulo sa senado. Meanwhile in other news...
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NectarInASieve
NectarInASieve@NectarInASieve·
@firecentermore @TishaCM Article 17 also states "pursuant to the applicable extradition laws and treaties." ICC is created under the Rome Statute and under its Art 59, the arrested will have to be brought to a competent judicial authority and not to a waiting plane. Only idiots will NOT understand that
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@NectarInASieve @AttyMatula “our courts are functioning” di ba nga our courts did not manage to try du30 despite all allegations and evidence that he was committing crimes against humanity? ICC is only allowed to step in bc PH courts failed to hold du30 and his cronies accountable
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Atty. Sonny Matula
Atty. Sonny Matula@AttyMatula·
Is the ICC a foreign court? No. It is not “dayuhan”; it is international. As a member of the community of nations, the Philippines—through Filipino legal scholars and experts—was part of the creation of the ICC and the drafting of the Rome Statute itself. The International Criminal Court is authorized to try the gravest crimes known to humanity: crimes against humanity, genocide, and war crimes. Filipinos are not strangers to this Court. In fact, several Filipinos helped shape the Rome Statute that created the ICC. We even had two Filipinos elected as ICC judges: Sen. Miriam Defensor Santiago and Dean Raul Pangalangan. So the ICC is not an alien invader. It is part of the international justice system that Filipinos helped build.
Atty. Sonny Matula@AttyMatula

The ICC is not a barangay tanod of The Hague. It is a court created by treaty, the Rome Statute, and its lawful processes deserve respect. In fact, former UP College of Law Dean Raul Pangalangan, who later became an ICC judge, and former UP Law Dean Merlin Magallona were among the Filipino legal minds associated with the drafting and development of the Rome Statute. The Rome Statute is applicable to the Philippines from 2011 until the country’s withdrawal took effect in 2019. Even after withdrawal, the Supreme Court in Pangilinan v. Cayetano, G.R. No. 238875, March 16, 2021, recognized that the Philippines remained bound by obligations incurred while it was still a State Party. Under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution, the Philippines adopts generally accepted principles of international law as part of the law of the land. Thus, if there is a valid ICC warrant, the issue is not whether the Senate likes it. The issue is whether the rule of law will be honored. Senate walls cannot be turned into a legal safe house. Public office is not a bunker against accountability.

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Pari Koy
Pari Koy@pads_nosi·
di ka makapaniwala nuh kasi puro quiboloy at Iglesia ang pinakikinggan niyo. The Lord will help us for sure. For the truth, justice and peace. mas matakot ka Diyos kung siya’y dumating at makita niyang tagapagtanggol ka ng mamamatay-tao.
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firecentermore@firecentermore·
@NectarInASieve @TishaCM Thats the problem when you are relying on ai to interpret. Ask a lawyer to explain this to you. Suddenly everyone is a legal expert. For your information, you should be reading up on section on jurisdiction. That is sec17.
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Pari Koy
Pari Koy@pads_nosi·
yung patuloy na pag-atake ng mga DDS sa ICC ay nagpapatunay lamang na dapat ikulong Digong at mga kasamahan nito. Say good bye sa panagarap nyo na magkaroon ng interim release si tatay Digs! this is a good help in persecuting Duterte and company:
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NectarInASieve
NectarInASieve@NectarInASieve·
@firecentermore @TishaCM Bobo lang di maka intindi- Complementarity (Article 1): The ICC is complementary to national criminal jurisdictions. It only steps in when states are unwilling or unable genuinely to carry out investigations or prosecutions.
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