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New Dimension

New Dimension

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Katılım Ocak 2018
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New Dimension
New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
This makes no sense for me, tsla shareholders do not care about quarterly earnings and most of them are looking at the long term. But they also know to protect the value of their tsla stock and will absolutely resist forced merger at the stage when this merger was not required until 10 days ago if i remember correct. tsla is right about to change business model and space x will have hyped up ipo price, absolutely no merger now, maybe after 3 years but we see that then.
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Doctor Jack@DoctorJack16·
Read Elon’s first paragraph below three times. Especially where he says “not pandering to someone’s bullshit quarterly earnings bonus”! This one line points toward the main misunderstanding of what makes many $TSLA shareholders eventually get angry or frustrated with the stock especially options traders. Elon’s vision is much further out than quarterly. He will make short term sacrifices for a long term vision. There is a reason why Elon’s companies are able to do what they do. One must be willing to do what others will not to accomplish what others cannot. This is NOT to say that he could not do better on things like earnings calls and communication. However, such things are simply not a priority in his mind because he has his eyes on a much bigger prize further out than quarterly. Invest accordingly because you can complain all you want, you will not change his focus.
Elon Musk@elonmusk

Yes, I need to make sure SpaceX stays focused on making life multiplanetary and extending consciousness to the stars, not pandering to someone’s bullshit quarterly earnings bonus! Obviously, IF SpaceX succeeds in this absurdly difficult goal, it will be worth many orders of magnitude more than the economy of Earth, but don’t expect entirely smooth sailing along the way.

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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
@CuriousPejjy @wholemars We are fine, if space x does good, that is good for them. But most tesla shareholders do not want merger at this stage, not until atleast next three years, don’t push it down th throat.
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Pejjy@CuriousPejjy·
$TSLA & SpaceX merging topic is really heated right now and although everyone is on board for a merger one day, not everyone is board to have it merge sooner than later due to Robotaxi not being fully priced in... @wholemars absolutely NAILS why this thinking is incorrect and will cost Tesla investors a lot more than we think. We do this Spaces every Saturday with @piangfa @j_grieshaber @ShrimpTeslaLong @Smokehbear @FabAIQuantum and many others! Join us!
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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
@NickGibbsIAG This is not a covil war, most tsla shareholders absolutely don’t want it merger now, it is so called tsla influencers that is pushing this relentlessly. They think tsla shareholders are dumb.
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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
@NickGibbsIAG This is another a civil way, most tsla shareholders absolutely don’t want it, it is so called tsla influencers that is pushing this relentlessly. They think tsla shareholders are dumb.
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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
@LimitingThe Absolutely no merger now, we don’t even want to hear offer, maybe after 3 years, but big fat no for now.
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The Limiting Factor
The Limiting Factor@LimitingThe·
If Robotaxis and Optimus are already baked in to Tesla's share price, why do we have a pay package for Elon assuming that the value of the company will at least 6x from here? What happened to all of the 10+ Trillion company valuation estimates and forecasts? What happened to all the people saying that could happen before 2030?
Rebellionaire@Rebellionaire

We’ve said a lot about the Tesla–SpaceX merger idea lately, so here’s one final thought for now: Tesla shareholders have waited years for autonomy value to show up. If Tesla gets folded into SpaceX before that happens… who actually benefits? @bradsferguson breaks it down. 👇

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Bradford Ferguson@bradsferguson·
In this video, I talk about the relative timing of SpaceX’s 20x vs $TSLA being flat. If they merge at today’s valuations, Tesla shareholders would be selling over half of their shares for a SpaceX that may be flat while Musk scales orbital AI satellites
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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
@FudKim @gregthaopenny1 @Gfilche @Tesla @SpaceX By the time there ia proposal it’s already too late. What kind of proposal will tsla investors get when merging with hyped of ipo price of space x and elon owning it significantly more than tsla ? It’s not rocket science. We don’t even want to hear merger now, maybe after 3 years
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Gali@Gfilche·
If @Tesla & @SpaceX merge, there will be a very intense shareholder vote to get this approved Here's my 2 cents & how I'm voting. Yes. Whatever Elon & management say is fair, is a yes from me. Why? Tesla & SpaceX are valued at roughly $1.5T & $1.75T respectively. If SpaceX buys Tesla (makes sense because of Elon's dual voting class shares), maybe they do it a ~20% premium to $1.5T and make it a 50/50 merger of equals. Tesla shareholders will complain about not getting compensated for @robotaxi success, @Tesla_Optimus, etc ... But the truth is, both companies are very similar in size with parrelel upside trajectories. Additionally, they are joined at the hip with Elon leading them both and the Terafab project. Tesla is a ~$100B revenue run-rate, barely growing, valued at nearly 20X sales in this merger... extremely high for a low gross margin company. Giving $TSLA arguably ~$1T of value based on future product lines that aren't material yet SpaceX is a $25B revenue run-rate company with @Starlink already 0 to 1 poised to hit a $30-40B revenue run-rate in the next 18 months. With MUCH HIGHER profitability than Tesla's current business. That means even thought Tesla has 4X the revenue of SpaceX, it's profitability is actually equal in size. When I look at the intrinsic earnings power ($15B of operating cashflow/yr) of Tesla & SpaceX they are actually very similar. With each of them spending all their operating cash flow and more on CAPEX for future projects (including @Xai in SpaceX). Each getting a very aggressive valuation based on future growth prospects. It's almost impossible to predict how the earnings/cashflow will evolve. Especially because a lot of it depends on accounting and how the Terafab/Optimi in Space is structured. Long story short, it's very complicated, and millions of hot take articles will be written about it ... but all in all, a merger of equals, or roughly that, looks fair to me. Another kicker to consider and why I'm voting yes. I trust Elon to do right by shareholders. $TSLA is up 34,687% since it's 2010 IPO, not bad. Tesla has a management team with a track record of making crazy ambitious goals and executing. They're vision for an intergalactic future gets even grander as a combined entity with SpaceX. Let them cook. Full disclaimer I'm a $TSLA & SpaceX investor.
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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
Merger with hyped up price of Space X ipo, with Elon owning one company significantly more than other, what kind of deal you think will Tsla receive? It’s not rocket science. Tsla is about to change business model and its a robbery for all patient tsla investors if they force merger. Maybe after 3 years but absolutely not now.
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TB@TtotheB_·
@bradsferguson While potentially watching SpaceX market cap grow faster than Tesla’s along the way. Not to mention deferring the benefits of a formal merger.
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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
That is fine if space X grows faster than tsla, good for them. Merging them is not compulsory thing written in constitution. We tsla investors think the next five years is going to be phenomenal, so no merger talk for atleast next three years. After that we see and decide, we don’t want to be unfair to space x too.
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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
Exactly, let public decide on valuation of space x, when the hype of apace x dies down but we tsla investors do not even want to think about merger at this point. Maybe after three years, if it happens, it happens, if not, it is not compulsory. But thinking about merging with hyped up ipo price of space x, when tsla is about to change the business model, is just dumb.
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Tesla Yoda@teslayoda·
Let the public decide SpaceX valuation via its IPO. Let shareholders of both public companies vote on the merger. A car company and a rocket company should not merge. Two businesses that can combine their core competencies to deliver orbital AI data centers should. They just need a real customer to fund CAPEX. If only Anthropic or Google were interested.
Gali@Gfilche

If @Tesla & @SpaceX merge, there will be a very intense shareholder vote to get this approved Here's my 2 cents & how I'm voting. Yes. Whatever Elon & management say is fair, is a yes from me. Why? Tesla & SpaceX are valued at roughly $1.5T & $1.75T respectively. If SpaceX buys Tesla (makes sense because of Elon's dual voting class shares), maybe they do it a ~20% premium to $1.5T and make it a 50/50 merger of equals. Tesla shareholders will complain about not getting compensated for @robotaxi success, @Tesla_Optimus, etc ... But the truth is, both companies are very similar in size with parrelel upside trajectories. Additionally, they are joined at the hip with Elon leading them both and the Terafab project. Tesla is a ~$100B revenue run-rate, barely growing, valued at nearly 20X sales in this merger... extremely high for a low gross margin company. Giving $TSLA arguably ~$1T of value based on future product lines that aren't material yet SpaceX is a $25B revenue run-rate company with @Starlink already 0 to 1 poised to hit a $30-40B revenue run-rate in the next 18 months. With MUCH HIGHER profitability than Tesla's current business. That means even thought Tesla has 4X the revenue of SpaceX, it's profitability is actually equal in size. When I look at the intrinsic earnings power ($15B of operating cashflow/yr) of Tesla & SpaceX they are actually very similar. With each of them spending all their operating cash flow and more on CAPEX for future projects (including @Xai in SpaceX). Each getting a very aggressive valuation based on future growth prospects. It's almost impossible to predict how the earnings/cashflow will evolve. Especially because a lot of it depends on accounting and how the Terafab/Optimi in Space is structured. Long story short, it's very complicated, and millions of hot take articles will be written about it ... but all in all, a merger of equals, or roughly that, looks fair to me. Another kicker to consider and why I'm voting yes. I trust Elon to do right by shareholders. $TSLA is up 34,687% since it's 2010 IPO, not bad. Tesla has a management team with a track record of making crazy ambitious goals and executing. They're vision for an intergalactic future gets even grander as a combined entity with SpaceX. Let them cook. Full disclaimer I'm a $TSLA & SpaceX investor.

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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
@Gfilche @SpaceX Also tsla and space x merging is not compulsory, why does it absolutely need to happen now, it was not the case 10 days ago. Right now, we tsla investors do not even want to hear about merging, maybe after three years, but definitely mo merger now.
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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
@Gfilche @SpaceX To think tsla is just going to cash flow from delivering car is criminal, right when tsla is right about to change business model. That fact is conveniently removed. This is ridiculous, tsla investors are not dumb.
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Gali@Gfilche·
If @SpaceX IPOs and automatically gets into the S&P 500 and other major indices that forces a huge amount of buying along with insane retail demand I could see it hitting a $4T valuation after listing …. Then trickling down to $2.5T after the hype settles
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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
@michaelm272 @Gfilche @SpaceX Exactly, to think tsla is just going to cash flow from delivering car is criminal, right when tsla is right about to change business model. That fact is conveniently removed. This is ridiculous, tsla investors are not dumb.
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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
@Gfilche @grok @SpaceX @Starlink Aslo , what is the most accurate estimate ma robotaxi and robot in next five years. Space x already has a fraction revenue of tsla, how far away will tsla run then?
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Gali@Gfilche·
Hi @grok what is your most accurate estimate of @SpaceX Q1 2026 revenue ? 🚀💵 Break it down Launches vs @Starlink and growth vs Q1 2025 🙏
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New Dimension@New_Dimension10·
@heyJohnEe TSLA price going up? Could be engineering test too but i am not ruling out TSLA price going up is a headache for some people if they want to merge tsla with Space x.
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Electric Brawl@3lectricBrawl·
Tesla solves real world problems and the stock is still under $500. $tsla is extremely undervalued and within the next few years, everyone will realize this. What’s your PT by end of 2026? I believe it’ll reach $665. 🔥
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