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Ni Orthen

Ni Orthen

@NiOrthen

Here to support the Enlightenment and good pasta. Good coffee is hard to find.

Somewhere in Southern Europe Katılım Eylül 2020
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@GiancarloSopo Agree. Identity politics is pretty conservative (which goes for the crowd who pretend to be progressive)..
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Giancarlo Sopo@GiancarloSopo·
If you're a conservative—not to be confused with a reactionary grifter—the main question about Nolan's Odyssey that should concern you is whether the film is faithful to Homer's moral vision of homecoming. That's it. Everything else makes for a dumber conservatism.
Variety@Variety

Elon Musk Attacks 'The Odyssey' Again and Claims Christopher Nolan Cast Lupita Nyong'o as Helen of Troy Because 'He Wants Awards' variety.com/2026/more/news…

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@katrosenfield First time I met an American irl ( still one of my best friends) I remember him being somewhat horrified / amused / excited when I told him that kids have wine at family dinners in Europe since around the age of 15 ( or younger)..
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Kat Rosenfield@katrosenfield·
Lots of discussion about this but people seem to be overlooking the actual phrasing of the question: not "do you drink?", but "have you ever had more than a few sips of alcohol?" That more than 50% of HS seniors (who are not children!) said "no" seems somewhat sinister
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McKay Coppins@mckaycoppins

I know it's fashionable now to panic about trends like this because it's evidence of antisocial behavior, phone addiction, the teen loneliness epidemic, etc. but my bold, counterintuitive take is that fewer children drinking alcohol is a good thing.

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🤠@heavensbvnny·
Men: “Women initiate most divorces.” Correct. Women also initiate most breakups, most therapy, most emotional labor, and most attempts to fix things before leaving. Men just initiate most denial and most problems.
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Cartoons Hate Her!@CartoonsHateHer·
My take on (large) age gaps will probably please nobody. Link in replies.
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Outspoken™️@Out5p0ken·
Take a straight man to a gay bar and see how quickly he understands consent.
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Ni Orthen@NiOrthen·
@Thechat101 Stupidest thing ever been told in the history of mankind?
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joebuddenclips/fanpage@Thechat101·
Rich Paul tells Gillie Da Kid and Wallo Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan grew up in a two-parent household that’s how they developed the selfish gene while Bron grew up in a single-parent household, so he ain’t got that selfish gene where he wants one to take the last shot.
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Gesha-Marie Bland@gmgeiko·
The real story of the Mansion, isn't the debauchery, but the financial exploitation. Hef's live-in girlfriends, in stark contrast to the Playmates who had magazine covers, where basically poor girls who got roped into a sort of indenture. I wrote a pilot about it.
Mario Nawfal@MarioNawfal

🇺🇸 Holly Madison was 21 when she moved into the Playboy Mansion. Hefner was 74. She's now exposing her truth, even spilling tea on Hefner’s orgies: "Nobody liked it and would just try to get it done as fast as possible."

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Ni Orthen@NiOrthen·
@LaiciteStan Anglo American "feminism" is another anglo-american expression of puritanism, so quite the opposite of any kind of sex positivity. American "feminists" talk about age gaps between adults with a straight face and believe they are being progressive..
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🌹@LaiciteStan·
French feminism is the neo-abolitionist model for prostitution & strict opposition to surrogacy. Anglo-American feminism is far more sex-positive. France has comprehensive female political representation laws & is one of the most (if not *the most*) social countries in the world
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@CathyYoung63 I don't question whether it's real. I question why it's often treated as the Greatest Threat To Free Speech, when other threats are as bad or worse, and seem to be ignored by self-proclaimed free speech absolutists. (The SPFSAs have gotten a little better this year, I admit.)
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Ni Orthen@NiOrthen·
@HalotiMatata @BronxLaugher @CoreyWriting American rules are so absurdly stupid. There is a rule that if A and B have sex then A has to be fired and the rationale is that person.. A is too powerful. Such stupidity..
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@BovyMaltz @IonaItalia Yes, thank you. Will be good accompaniment to my weekend coffee time. Also apparently you can pull every hair style off..
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Phoebe Maltz Bovy@BovyMaltz·
I am assuming everything past the paywall is 'and this book is the most profound thing ever written' (in all seriousness, I had a blast talking with @IonaItalia about this! If I seem asleep in the video blame Australia vs Canada time zones.
Quillette@Quillette

A new book by @BovyMaltz argues that most accounts of female heterosexuality minimise and even theorise away its central feature: women’s sexual desire for men. quillette.com/2026/05/08/wha…

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@VolodyaTretyak No serious person drinks Starbucks in Europe or consider it "coffee culture"
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Volodymyr Tretyak 🇺🇦@VolodyaTretyak·
It’s low-key insane that American coffee culture (e.g. Starbucks) became so popular in Europe, considering European coffee culture is way better
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@PBSportstalks You need to lay off the celebrity culture and stop talking like a priest
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PB SPORTS TALK@PBSportstalks·
@NiOrthen Get a clue and wake up dude. He’s a public figure who impacts children and young people All Over the world by the example he sets.
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PB SPORTS TALK@PBSportstalks·
🎯POST UPDATE I took a lot of heat for saying what I said. But situations like this always have a drip effect. There is always more beneath the surface and even after what came out yesterday, I still believe much more is coming. This is not going away and quite honestly, it shouldn’t. Does everyone remember the Kiss Cam incident at the concert? That CEO was removed within days. Yet somehow people think Robert Kraft can simply maneuver around this one. I don’t believe he can. So many people keep saying, “It’s just an affair,” as if that somehow makes it acceptable. It is not acceptable and this situation goes far beyond that. The level of disregard, audacity, and complete lack of respect shown toward so many people is staggering. #DianaRussini career is over. People tend to forget quickly, but this situation feels different. This is next level. #Vrabel is supposed to represent leadership. He is supposed to lead men, lead a franchise, and serve as one of the pillars of a community. Right now, he is none of those things. We all make mistakes. I certainly have in my life too. But mistakes also come with accountability and sometimes accountability means stepping away or being removed from positions of leadership. Mike Vrabel should be removed immediately. Not another second. The organization deserves better. The employees deserve better. The players deserve better. The fans deserve better. The community deserves better. And with Drake Maye now speaking publicly, this could all backfire badly once more information comes out. Stop talking. Robert Kraft, for once, step up and do the right thing. Because I believe this situation is going to get far worse before it gets any better. @Patriots #nfl
PB SPORTS TALK@PBSportstalks

I generally get 90% or so of predictive analysis on sports correct. So Bookmark this. #MikeVrabel Will either get fired or take an extended leave of absence, likely resulting in him missing the year. It is not all out on him. I believe more will come out. To be honest, having an affair with a woman before her marriage, through her marriage, through two pregnancies and birth of children. It’s low down trash. Resign today. #patriots #russini #nfl

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Porkchop Express@Porkchop_EXP·
Spanish youth is one of the most bohemian in Europe, always has been. Extremely left wing too, especially the women. Don’t blame it on economic issues - all throughout history people had children and made it work in spite of poverty and poor living conditions.
Martin Varsavsky@martinvars

España no tiene un problema de fertilidad. Tiene un problema de calendario. En las clínicas de fertilidad que conozco bien, dentro y fuera de España, lo que veo todos los meses es lo mismo. La paciente española típica llega con 38, 39, 40 años. Llega tarde porque alquilar costó la mitad del sueldo, porque encadenó contratos temporales hasta los 35, porque su pareja también, porque pedir una hipoteca con 32 era ciencia ficción y porque nadie en España la felicitó nunca por querer ser madre joven. Cuando llega, la biología ya ha decidido buena parte de la conversación. La reserva ovárica a los 40 no es la de los 30. Ningún protocolo, ninguna IA, ninguna donante, ningún congelado mágico revierte del todo lo que el reloj ya cobró. La medicina de la reproducción puede mucho, pero no puede devolverle a una mujer la década que el sistema le cobró en alquiler, en interinidad y en burocracia. Por eso me parece deshonesto el debate público español sobre natalidad. Se habla de cheques bebé de 100 euros, de permisos parentales, de campañas. No se habla de lo único que mueve la aguja: que una pareja de 28 o 30 años pueda permitirse vivir, trabajar de forma estable y tener hijos sin pedir permiso al Estado para cada paso. La tasa de fecundidad española está en torno a 1,1 hijos por mujer. Edad media al primer hijo, por encima de 32, la más alta de Europa junto con Italia. Eso no es un problema cultural. Es la consecuencia matemática de un país que ha hecho que tener hijos a tiempo sea un lujo. La fertilidad asistida puede ayudar a muchas familias, y lo hace. Pero no es una política demográfica. Es un parche carísimo para un problema que se debería resolver veinte años antes, en el mercado laboral y en el de vivienda.

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@CartoonsHateHer I am sorry but "the difference in the sex we are having" probably will not be a serious case..
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Cartoons Hate Her!@CartoonsHateHer·
I've long suspected that conservatives and liberals have different "types" but now I have the data to prove it! Next week I'll cover the actual differences in the sex we are having, because that exists too. Link in replies.
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@noemonas Wether you understand it or not this is a hilariously American reading which makes even your half points irrelevant..
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Noemon Acragas
Noemon Acragas@noemonas·
What is a disgrace is a whole bunch of Greek people taking issue with Nolan's Odyssey, when they have no clue either of the poem itself, or of the melting-pot that was the Late Bronze Age, but more importantly they have no clue of their own Greek theatrical arts either. 1) Helen is a minor character that appears altogether in 4-5 scenes throughout both poems. In the Iliad she is mentioned the first time 2 whole books later in Book 3 when she appears on the walls of Troy and identifies the Greek leaders for the Trojans. Then Aphroditi forces her to go to cuck Paris' bed after he was defeated by Menelaos. That's her entire appearance in the Iliad and in the Odyssey she is back with Menelaos in Sparta and receives Tilemachos who is looking for his father Odysseus. Helen tells him a story about his father's intelligence and that is her entire gig throughout both books. A tiny and irrelevant character throughout both Books. "The face that launched a thousand ships" is a modern English saying, not a Greek one. In Homer, women are worth only in so far as being property of men. Odysseus cares not about his slave-woman and hands her over himself to Agamemnon, he cares only because he is singled out to hand over war-spoils. Agamemnon the same, he cares not about his slave-woman, he cares because he is the King and he is being advised to hand over war-spoils back to the Trojans. The only woman worth a dime in the entire series is Penelope and that is because she is Queen in her husband's absense and besieged by men looking to get his property. 2) Helen's physical appearance is never described in Homer, neither is anyone else's for that matter with extremely few exceptions. The women in the poem are traditionally called "white" and white-armed" to denote their domestication, while men are called "black" to denote their bravery and outdoorsiness. Neither refers to phenotype. Homer on purpose does not describe physical appearances so that the audience can imagine his characters however they wish. 3) Homer did not describe the ships or the weapons accurately, his poems were not meant to be documentaries but to teach moral lessons of what happens when you defy the Gods and fate itself. This is the only point that actually matters and Nolan has clearly been very faithful to it. 4) His 2 main characters Odysseus and Achilleus represesent 2 archetypes: Odysseus becomes legendary as the ultimate survivor: the man who kneels when he must, lies when he must, endures every humiliation, suffers every loss, and still makes it home after twenty years. His legend is built on mêtis (cunning intelligence), adaptability, and endurance. He lowers himself to mortals (supplication), to gods (constant appeals), even to animals in metaphor (the Cyclops episode). His glory is nostos—returning—and the stories he tells about it. He wins by bending, not breaking. Achilles becomes legendary as the ultimate refuser: the man who will not kneel, will not compromise his sense of worth, even when it costs him everything. His legend is built on pure, explosive pride and the willingness to trade a long life for undimmed kleos (eternal glory). He withdraws from the system rather than accept dishonor within it. His glory is the brightness of the flame that burns out fastest. Homer gives us both archetypes side-by-side, without forcing us to choose one as “better.” Most people in the real world—then and now—live closer to Odysseus: we adapt, we bow when power demands it, we survive. But we tell stories about Achilles because his refusal resonates as the ideal, the spark of dignity that says “a human being is worth more than mere survival.” 5) Classical ancient Greeks used MEN to represent Helen and other women in theater. 6) Classical ancient Greeks made parodies, comedies and tragedies out of Homeric episodes and especially Helen and Menelaos, see Euripidis' "Helen" and the Thesmoforizousai by Aristofanis where ancient Athenians take the piss out of Menelaos, Helen but also men & women more generally. 7) Classical ancient Greeks imagined the characters differently, others saw Helen as brunette, others as blonde because Homer allows everybody to imagine the characters as they wish. 8) There are very few passages in Homer that give us tiny physical descriptions of characters: Odysseus is called black-skinned, 'melas' 'melanochroos' several times. But it is doubtful it refers to his race or actual skin-colour for as we demonstrated white and black were used as attributes of bravery/vitality for black, feminine obedience for white. Nevertheless Odysseus dressed up as a beggar has to convince Penelope he knew her husband so he describes the physical appearance of Odysseu's right-hand mand to concince his wife that he knew her husband, so while in disguise he desrcibes his own herald to his wife: "He was round-shouldered, black-skinned, wooly-haired, and his name was Eurybates" καὶ μέν οἱ κῆρυξ ὀλίγον προγενέστερος αὐτοῦ εἵπετο· καὶ τόν τοι μυθήσομαι, οἷος ἔην περ· γυρὸς ἐν ὤμοισιν, μελανόχροος, οὐλοκάρηνος, Εὐρυβάτης δ' ὄνομ' ἔσκε· τίεν δέ μιν ἔξοχον ἄλλων ὧν ἑτάρων Ὀδυσεύς, ὅτι οἱ φρεσὶν ἄρτια ᾔδη. 9) Odysseus in Homer refers to Memnon the Ethiopian as the "most handsome man on earth" 10) Ο Βασιλιας της Σκονης, Ξυλινα Σπαθια. Εγώ ο μικρός ο αμνός του θεού Ξεχασμένος στο νότο γεννημένος αλλού Ξέρω πάντα η Τροία θα 'ναι μίλια μακριά Κι η ωραία Ελένη θα 'ναι τώρα γριά 11) Plutarch takes the piss of cynical people like those going around: This kind of sick attitude has caused a huge amount of mental barrenness and stupidity in the schools. It has filled lecture halls with endless nonsense and pointless chatter. Because it’s not the job of a young student, to act as a critic of diction or an examiner of style. ----Περὶ τοῦ ἀκούειν = About Listening 12) Shut up and enjoy the movie. We need more Homer in our lives, the entire world does. There is no translation or adaptation that is going to make everybody happy, the key is for the audience to understand the moral lessons primarily the agony of Odysseus.
Noemon Acragas@noemonas

Homer's Odyssey and Iliad was indeed a diverse melting pot that explicitly mentions "Memnon the Son of the Dawn from Ethiopia" as "the most handsome man on earth" and this being told by Odysseus himself: "ὃς περὶ πάντων ἦν ἀνδρῶν κάλλιστος ἰδέσθαι τῶν ἄλλων μετὰ Μέμνονα δῖον" "he [Eurupulos son of Tilefidis] is the handsomest out of all men I ever saw, all except for Memnon" 2) We do not know the skin colour of Helen. Ancient Greeks used the words "white" to refer to "domesticated good women" and the word "black" to refer to "brave men". 3) This is not just in word but also in pottery and art, men are painted totally black and women totally white, in later periods these absolutely B&W hues lighten up in which men are very brown and women white but not like chalk. But the motif remains with more natural colours. This never meant that all men were Black-African and all women White-Polish-Lithuanian. It was a style that represented their culture in poetry, art, pottery, etc. White colour for feminine domestication, obedience, black colour for male bravery. 4) Homer's Epics is art more than it is history, it can be interpreted as it has been by several people who look and looked nothing like the Greeks. 5) It is a movie for a global audience retelling a piece of art, not a documentary. It is absolutely fine to be told in a global language for a global audience. 6) The inclusion of more people than just Europeans piques more interest for Homer globally which can only be a good thing. 7) When you are racist against others, it don't matter how you justify it, it still shows.

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