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@Olive_Gordon_

White Sox Apologist

Chicago Katılım Mart 2012
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Gordon
Gordon@Olive_Gordon_·
@blobbylight89 @paschutz You say infrastructure handled like it’s an easy thing. It’s not, especially when it’s in a compromised suburban area. The bill to the taxpayers for AH would be steep with no revenue streams built in. Stadiums don’t make the public money. Keep simping for McCaskey though…
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Blobby Light
Blobby Light@blobbylight89·
@Olive_Gordon_ @paschutz Now I know you’re a real 🤡 who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The Bears have maintained that they will privately fund the ENTIRE stadium. They want infrastructure handled, same as any other massive business that wants to invest billions in the area.
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Paris Schutz
Paris Schutz@paschutz·
BREAKING: Full City Council has approved $424 million TIF package for infrastructure improvements in "The 78," where the Chicago Fire are currently building their new home stadium.
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Gordon@Olive_Gordon_·
@blobbylight89 @paschutz I agree. The Bears deserve a better owner who will just pay for the stadium and stop expecting handouts. (Also Soldier Field is financed through the Illinois Sports Facility Authority. So again, State, not City like TIF)
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Blobby Light
Blobby Light@blobbylight89·
@Olive_Gordon_ @paschutz Be mad at the Bears? How silly man. The last time the city made a stadium deal, after 25 years they owe more than the original loan! Keep trusting CITY politics bro. The Bears deserve better.
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Gordon@Olive_Gordon_·
@blobbylight89 @paschutz Because this is the CITY not the STATE. Jesus Christ man please research TIFs in Chicago and how they work. This is the city borrowing against themselves to raise the tax revenue of the district. It is incredibly different from the Bears situation. Be mad at the Bears here
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Blobby Light
Blobby Light@blobbylight89·
@Olive_Gordon_ @paschutz If you think all this is going to play out so easily and make a ton of money (more than what the Bears would make) then just say you don’t know IL politics. The original point was why the Fire and not the Bears.
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Frank Pesche
Frank Pesche@FPesche29037·
@Olive_Gordon_ @blobbylight89 @paschutz Bull fucking shit. Dumb fuck. Is this stadium going to host a Super Bowl. Final Four. College football playoff. Be able to host events all year. You’re a fucking idiot.
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Gordon@Olive_Gordon_·
@blobbylight89 @paschutz They’re planning to sell the air rights above it and then every business there will generate taxes that go right back to the city. That’s why TIF is being used. If you don’t understand TIF/ municipal infrastructure financing just say it…
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Blobby Light
Blobby Light@blobbylight89·
@Olive_Gordon_ @paschutz You’re talking about money for a parking garage? That’s how the city is gonna recoup $424m? Good luck. Also, the development the Bears are proposing would generate much more revenue than the Fire can. That’s simple econ.
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Gordon
Gordon@Olive_Gordon_·
@blobbylight89 @paschutz Correct on the valuations there, but key part you’re ignoring is the city OWNS much of this infrastructure the TIF goes to. In the Bears case they would not. This is money that the city is almost guaranteed to make back, that’s not the case in AH with the Bears. Easy econ here…
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Blobby Light
Blobby Light@blobbylight89·
@Olive_Gordon_ @paschutz You have to be joking… the bears asked for $900m infrastructure. the fire are worth $600m and the Bears are worth $10b. The fire are spending $700m and the Bears would be spending $3b-$4b. Nobody watches soccer, the entire city loves the Bears and would spend way more.
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Gordon@Olive_Gordon_·
@blobbylight89 @paschutz There’s a substantial difference in what the Bears are asking for and this. This would support fully public infrastructure including a city owned garage and plaza which they can sell the air rights to generate additional revenues. This is an investment, the Bears were a hand out
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Blobby Light
Blobby Light@blobbylight89·
@paschutz Hope all those people who complained about the Bears asking for money and referencing this project as “no public funds” are eating their words.
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Stubby Boffo
Stubby Boffo@JeffreyRey6638·
@WGNNews Clear taxation without representation. They don't answer to citizens.
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WGN TV News
WGN TV News@WGNNews·
The Illinois Tollway is proposing a rate increase starting next year to help fund a capital investment program. Now, it's seeking customer feedback on change. More: wgntv.com/news/traffic/i…
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Gordon@Olive_Gordon_·
@MatyasFulop @WGNNews Then you should be happy with this. It helps to fund public transit to help people like you
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matyas fulop
matyas fulop@MatyasFulop·
45 cents!? What the fuck!? I thought they’d be going for a nickel. What the fuck is wrong with this state! I used to drive 35k miles a year and replenish my iPass with $100. Now I rarely drive and avoid the toll roads and then son of a bitch replenishes like every tile for $20.
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Gordon@Olive_Gordon_·
@jasonc_nc @CCGordon33 @JoePostingg When people talk about issues in the South they’re not referring to NC. Also it is very valid for people to be upset when these states take more federal dollars than they give and elect deep red legislators who actively work against their constituents. Reconstruction failed…
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Jason,@jasonc_nc·
@Olive_Gordon_ @CCGordon33 @JoePostingg The difference is less than it once was in many cases. Again, best not to do the “all of the south is dumb and poor” rhetoric
Jason,@jasonc_nc

The GDP per capita difference between the OP’s state of New Jersey & North Carolina decreased 27% over the past 20 years. Connecticut vs NC dropped by ~half. RI is now at par & PA is next. All while seeing ~3.5x-7.5x the population growth rate, which you would expect to dilute GDP/capita. This is also before adjusting for cost of living differences. PPP-adjusted, GDP/capita for New Jersey and North Carolina move to even for example. But sure. 4th world economic conditions within the next 2-3 senate election cycles.

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Joe
Joe@JoePostingg·
All the Republican Senators that understand how appropriations work are dying. The South is going to become a fourth world country when the pork stops flowing
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schneallydan@schneallydan1·
@Olive_Gordon_ @JoePostingg What am I wrong about? You’re such a pussy. You can’t make any direct point. You can link articles and can’t even defend what they say. It’s pathetic.
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Gordon@Olive_Gordon_·
@schneallydan1 @JoePostingg Damn. Americans are really the dumbest people. When we’ve got entire generations thinking like you, we’re fucked. Embarrassing tbh
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schneallydan
schneallydan@schneallydan1·
@Olive_Gordon_ @JoePostingg No. I did not read the “The World Ends Unless America Deindustrialises and China Gets to Do Whatever” article. Let me guess, I need a lower standard of living and to buy everything from China and if I don’t, it’s going to be bad for the chuds!
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schneallydan
schneallydan@schneallydan1·
@Olive_Gordon_ @JoePostingg In this global cataclysm, Illinois will be okay? What parts in particular will be okay, Chicago I guess since you live there? Carbondale is toast? Does Springfield make it?
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Gordon
Gordon@Olive_Gordon_·
@CCGordon33 @jasonc_nc @JoePostingg Maine is nowhere near those states. NM is on the same level but that’s a different discussion as to why. Every region has poor areas sure, but in aggregate the south leads that category by a mile
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Jason,
Jason,@jasonc_nc·
@Olive_Gordon_ @CCGordon33 @JoePostingg Need to stop coming down here then. North Carolina has the highest domestic migration rate in the country. And for some reason people keep sending their kids to our crappy universities.
Jason,@jasonc_nc

I get a kick out of posts like this. At any rate, it’s gonna be a big fourth world country.. “The South was the only region with positive net domestic migration, where the number of people entering the region exceeded those leaving.”

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Gordon@Olive_Gordon_·
@schneallydan1 @JoePostingg A city hundred of miles inland in North Carolina is virtually unrecognizable due to an unprecedented hurricane. Those are happening annually now. It’s not gonna be 100 years and it’s not just gonna be hot… Stay in denial all you want
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schneallydan
schneallydan@schneallydan1·
@Olive_Gordon_ @JoePostingg This is pitiful, dude. Just admit you’re wrong. “In 100 years, South Carolina will be hot in the summer, checkmate MAGATs!”
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