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"Do not put yourself at odds with the Word of God. For truly, it will persist as surely as the Rhine follows its course. One can perhaps dam it up for a while, but it is impossible to stop it.” - Zwingli
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Jason Cunningham
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Jason Cunningham
@ReformedTrain
PCA (https://t.co/ooLsuoahSJ) Southern Presbyterian, Scots-Irish, USMC
ÜT: 34.102571,-83.756757 Katılım Ekim 2009
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@irishpresby I’ve used Lee’s book and combined it with Scripture that I use for high school guys
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Robert E. Lee on Leadership and The Maxims of Stonewall Jackson should be required reading for young men.
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Took my family to the Biltmore estate today. The house seems a little over hyped.
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> Steven Lawson defrocked and disgraced.
> Burk Parsons suspended from the ministry.
> Stephen Nichols and his wife excommunicated.
What is going on with Ligonier Ministries??
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This is not about about people and their convictions - this is about elders who vowed to to a uniform practice that was already laid down in our denominational standards - the frustration is not over tertiary matters but on changing the definition of what those are...
Derek Radney@derekradney
I am sure you are not alone in that longing. But I must say that this is a really unhealthy longing. The inability to rest easy knowing that people have different convictions on tertiary matters is not a sign of maturity. We must be able to leave others to be fully convinced in their own mind without anguishing over the fact that others try to honor the Lord according to their conscience.
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Derek - we're not talking about people and their convictions - we're talking about elders who vowed to to a uniform practice as already clearly laid down in our denominational standards - the frustration is not over tertiary matters but on changing the definition of what those are...
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I am sure you are not alone in that longing. But I must say that this is a really unhealthy longing. The inability to rest easy knowing that people have different convictions on tertiary matters is not a sign of maturity. We must be able to leave others to be fully convinced in their own mind without anguishing over the fact that others try to honor the Lord according to their conscience.
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I'm opposed to all the current attempts to move the boundaries of our communion in the PCA, whether it's women deacons or creating new restrictions regarding worship (readers, communion distributors, etc.).
Let's not pretend only one group is trying to change the PCA.
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@presbycast many churches want to enshrine what they are already practicing - we currently have non-compliance, non-discipline, and non-departure
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for those who must have constitutional change or enshrined flexibility: compliance, discipline, or departure.
Some will laud the honesty of those transparently proposing constitutional change. The real test of honesty—and fidelity— will come after the General Assembly.
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The female officer-curious/polity-critical men in the PCA have created a wedge issue to no good end or purpose. We all know how this ends, and all the intervening drama could have been avoided.
Something like deconstruction, reimagining, or de facto change of the office...
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@GeorgeSayour The other elephant in the room is how many women are leading worship every Sunday?
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The problem w/ the PCA Deacon debates is, given what we've seen going on in PCA Worship, these aren't debates regarding the Diaconate.
This is NOT a Good Faith Conversation.
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@SozzleKnocker @johnandrewwords I assume by ‘ripping apart’ you don’t mean actual reading and interacting with the material but rather dismissing out of hand with pithy one line engagement farming
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@johnandrewwords And as I've said before, ripping apart their Temu "study report" isn't slander either.
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Folks who decided to associate themselves with kinists are not being slandered when other folks likewise associate them with kinism.
You’re not being persecuted for “telling the truth.” You’re experiencing the natural consequences of your bad decisions. You’re not a victim.
Zachary Garris@ZacharyGarris
It’s no surprise that Christians who speak truth regarding the pressing issues of the day are maligned and slandered—even by those who claim the name of Christ. But such slanderers are doing the work of their father the devil by perverting truth and maliciously defaming the reputation of God’s people. They should repent, for otherwise God will send them to hell for their lies. “You shall not go about as a SLANDERER among your people.” (Lev. 19:16) “O LORD, who may abide in Your tent? Who may dwell on Your holy hill? He who walks with integrity… He does not SLANDER with his tongue, Nor does evil to his neighbor.” (Ps. 15:1-3) “You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He…does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” (John 8:44) “law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane…for…immoral men and homosexuals…and LIARS.” (1 Tim. 1:9-10) “But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all LIARS, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” (Rev. 21:8) “Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices LYING.” (Rev. 22:15)
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Imagine being a pastor or scholar and thinking that what the confessional Reformed churches in the USA really need to hear in 2026 is a good dose of race-obsessed ethnonationalism.
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Can a dispensationalist politician be commited to America first; I think not...theological convictions matter for civil magistrates...
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"The civil magistrate is, by divine appointment, the guardian of the Sabbath. God says that even the stranger shall not be allowed to profane his Sabbath.
But the stranger can be controlled only by the civil magistrate who "sitteth in the gate." It therefore belongs to his office, to enforce, by lawful means, the sanctification of the Sabbath."
John Mitchell Mason, Scotch Presbyterian Church, New York, 1800
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"It would be strange indeed if the ruler who is armed by God with the power of capital punishment against the domestic murderer could not justly inflict the same doom on the foreign criminal who invades our soil, unprovoked, for the purpose of shedding blood." - Dabney
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I’ve watched many PCA church livestreams, but I’ve never seen a woman dressed in a chicken suit making announcements. Mosaic Silver Spring. Potomac Presbytery.
youtube.com/live/qq9YXSeHt…
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The sad thing is that our BCO will end up being thousands of pages just to spell out in exacting detail what biblical fidelity and confessional integrity look like #pcaga
byFaith Online@PCAByFaith
The 36th overture for consideration by the 53rd #PCAGA has been received. The overture comes from Catawba Valley Presbytery and proposes to "Add BCO 8-11 and 9-8 Regarding the Exercise of the Duties and Authority of Elder and Deacon." pcaga.org/wp-content/upl…
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"If we treat Scripture like a wax nose to accommodate the culture, we fall for the same lie that Eve swallowed in the garden: “Did God really say…” This deaconess thing is a Scripture authority issue, pure and simple."
"1 Tim 3:12 by itself should be clear enough to settle this issue for those that hold to Scripture’s absolute authority. If we decide to try to conform Scripture to the world for whatever reason, we trade the gospel for a lie." -
thank you Bob Mattes for clarifying this many years ago -
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Michael Foster@thisisfoster
1/ Turns out that the #SavethePCA cause was ahead of the curve.... Here is the first of many overtures that the progressives in the PCA are working on to move forward their Function Female Officers goals... This overture, which just passed Metro Atlanta Presbytery of the PCA by roughly a 70–30 margin, is framed as a call for “flexibility” on the diaconate because, they claim, Scripture gives us “very little data” about the office. On paper, it insists it is not revisiting ordination or church office. In practice, it rewrites the BCO to allow Sessions to label women “deacons,” place them in the diaconate, and normalize a mixed-sex diaconate across the PCA. The argument is built on three claims: (1) the Bible is unclear about deacons, (2) the Westminster Standards don’t define the office, and (3) Christian liberty therefore requires institutional diversity. That framing directly contradicts the assumptions and practice of the Westminster divines, who treated the diaconate as a real church office tied to qualified men, even if not as heavily elaborated as the eldership. What it recommends It amends the BCO so that Sessions may choose between: • only ordained male deacons, • male deacons plus women called “deacons,” or • a fully unordained diaconate of men and women called “deacons.” Once adopted, the PCA constitutionally enshrines women in a titled diaconal office, even while verbally denying they are “officers.” This is not a neutral “local option” clean-up. It is a strategic redefinition of the diaconate that embeds women into an office category the church has historically reserved for men. Whatever the stated assurances, this is exactly how male-only offices get eroded: start with deacons, normalize the language, shift expectations, then move upstream. This is about female ordination.
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"Responsible governance requires limits grounded in economic reality, security concerns, and social stability. To deny those limits is not compassion but negligence."
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@jamesrwoodtheo
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