@V0ice_OfReason7 @25mahfuz This season Bournemouth have a better XI and manager than Juventus or Dortmund.
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3rd to 12th. 18/19 vs 25/26 look how similar the points are for this part of the table. Tell me why the standards are not the same as now?
Larry@Lordalam786
@Evertxn The fact 2 teams got 97+ shows the rest of the league wasn’t at the same standard as it is now
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@Shamsdale Sure, Arteta, Nagelsmann and Tuchel all love the player. But dont you remember that ddwenger thinks he sucks!?
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Worst signing in Arsenal’s history according to some 😂😂😂
7@7Erzil
Killer Kai deadarse came back from what was essentially a year long injury, daggered Chelsea in the carabo semi-final, crucial equaliser away at Leverkusen, crucial winner away at Sporting, scored away at City, winning assist vs Newcastle, title winning goal vs Burnley WTF😂
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No Maguire in the England squad is a little bit perplexing. A fit Colwill should be in as well.
However the most pressing problem I have with what is likely to be the squad is the absence of Trent Alexander-Arnold. The best passer in world football simply cannot stay at home.
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@NOTLFCJ__ They were very good teams but you had very, very poor teams making it into Europe those seasons. A Burnley team with 32 expected goals (would be 20th itl this season) and a -20 xGD (would be 19th itl this season) got into the Europa League.
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Or it suggests that the two teams who got 97 and 98 points were incredible?
EMDG@EmanDaGoon
@Evertxn A rare L from you mate, 97pts suggests the rest of the teams in the league were easier to beat compared to 80-85pts which would suggest the rest of the teams in the league were harder to beat.
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I love how the argument has shifted where 97 and 102 points means the league is bad versus it meaning they were just two of the best teams in history.
Literally peak Guardiola and peak Klopp 😂 they’d get 95+ in the current league too
Robert Upshaw🀄@robeiae
@Evertxn @Lordalam786 Yeah, no. I think you've got a very narrow--and wrong--idea of "harder." Point totals are the consequence of relative difficulty, not a requirement for the same. A league is harder to win when it is harder to accumulate points.
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@V0ice_OfReason7 @25mahfuz That Burnley team had fewer expected goals than *every pl team* this season and an expected goal difference that would put them in 19th this season.
They finished 7th.
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@BraddLFC @AFCarlos96 @25mahfuz Mate, the average PL game was way tougher than the average champions league game for arsenal this season. Why do you think that is?
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@AFCarlos96 @25mahfuz The quality is not higher man it’s a lot more boring imo, yes maybe more competitive in some aspects but overall i wouldn’t say the pure footballing quality is better now than it was then.
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Icl he fully is an insane tactical weapon that guys (including me) have downplayed
Hard to find a CF that can play in any game state
Rotates wide/drop deep vs blocks
Target man vs high press
Run channels + occupy CB’s in transition
Missed are bad, but the rest of his game…
🤔@AFCLee_
Why do all coaches love Havertz so much it’s a genuine mystery
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@MaxRadwan Odds wise they were genuinely the least favored preseason team in the last 10 years!
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The most clear favourites to win the league in the last 10 years are 23 points behind the Champions
Football on TNT Sports@footballontnt
"They're probably the most clear favourites to win the league that we've seen in the last 10 years" The TNT team believe Liverpool will comfortably win the league again this season 🗣 Watch the latest episode of The Breakdown on YouTube: youtube.com/watch?v=1QNwnF…
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@GunnerMando @Tantaburs @Evertxn The average Premier league game this season was tougher than the average Champions league game and it isnt even a debate!
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@RobhRyan @Tantaburs @Evertxn Yeah grinding? Mate, I almost shut myself every week. Anyone can beat you in Premier league.
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Baffled by the response to this. It’s not hard to understand.
The league competitiveness is irrelevant because everyone plays everyone.
It’s the title challenger you face that makes it hard.
City centurions and Klopp’s Liverpool are two of the best ever. Only 1 can win.
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A team finished on 97 points and came 2nd, but this is the hardest PL to win 😭
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@GunnerMando @Tantaburs @Evertxn While we gnawed our teeth grinding out wins, I genuinely dont see how anyone can in good faith say its tougher to beat a lot of bad teams than have to play a ~Dortmund level club most weeks.
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@Tantaburs @Evertxn By their logic, the Scottish league almost always has an amazing title race.
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@Evertxn It is harder to play 38 competitive games in a season than it is to play 2 competitive games in a season.
This isn't rocket science
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No Foden
No Palmer
No Bowen
No Wharton
This can only mean one thing
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@vespreken He also even has elite offensive stats since joining Arsenal. He's at like .8 xg/a p90 and similar actual g/a p90 when playing at CF. You dont even need fancy fbref stats
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Elite at pressing, 6’4 and can probably win aerial duels against NBA players, Incredible first touch and overall technicals, incredible link up play (with elite players like Saka), can play multiple positions as well
All casuals see is the lankiness and BCMs and think he’s mid
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Kai Havertz is one of the easiest players to see why he’s Elite, you just have a very surface level understanding of football and player evaluation sadly
James B@JamesB_afc
I’ll always concede that for what I don’t see in the player, the brightest minds in football do And who the fuck would listen to me when they’re speaking like this I would love a sit down with Julian Nagelsmann, or Mikel Arteta, with their insight and footage, showing me what I’m missing Btw, I give Kai plenty of credit. But they LOVE this guy… I wanna learn! 🙏
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@_celia_bedelia_ They can scroll. Who has time to cook when you could be on your phone?
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I’m sorry but if you have the time and capacity to order fucking door dash, you have the time and capacity to put together a salad. Or microwave something . Or make some soup on Sunday and have it for a couple days. Jesus Christ. Is there anything y’all think Gen Z CAN do?
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@Criss_Crossv2 >reference past Summers when FFP laws and loopholes lead to selling the women's team, training ground etc to get by
>FFP doesnt even exist anymore so it has no bearing
This is going to be so fun when Chelsea fans look up the current financial rules.
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@RobhRyan Mate this happens every summer, rival fans tell us we’ll have to sell our best players and it never happens. We’ll probably sell Arsenal Pedro Neto for £60m anyway
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I think it’s simply mental if anyone thinks we should sell JP for a certain fee tbh. What about this club makes you think they’ll successfully replace him alone never mind use the funds well across the squad?
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@NwaoduahC @jonathanbhoward @NorthBankNadim @InvertTheWing It genuinely seems like us winning a title and their imminent relegation mentally broke him.
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@jonathanbhoward @RobhRyan @NorthBankNadim @InvertTheWing Lol, stop trying to lie. In the last 5 years, when we played in the Europa league. When the Europa League had better teams dropping from the Champions League and really competitive. We got to the final and semi-final of that shit competition.
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Manchester City dropped more than double the amount of points from winning positions than Arsenal did this season.
Since the game at the Etihad, City dropped 4 points, Arsenal 0 points. Arsenal didn’t even concede a goal.
Better side my ass.
Danis@DanisMCFC
Manchester City were the better team arsenals title was just a fluke mainly due to PGMOL but in terms of who was actually the better side it was definitely City.
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@Criss_Crossv2 You realize this is the first year of SCR, and it is a completely different financial landscape from FFP? And that Chelsea in no way currently meet SCR standards?
Why would you reference past seasons when the rules have completely changed?
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@RobhRyan You’ve already shown you haven’t a notion what you’re talking about, thanks for the input though
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