Chris Rodgers

@bswrpray @QuantumTumbler I was blocked so couldn’t respond, but this sums it up - reading the instrument is within perception not independent of it.

@QuantumTumbler @Rodge_hooves The argument assumes that an instrument exists in a vacuum called "out there." You cannot point to an instrument that is not currently an object in your consciousness. To claim it exists "whether anyone is watching or not" is a leap of faith, not a scientific fact.

That’s an interesting framing, but it’s philosophy dressed in physics language. Saying “reality is a simulation” or “consciousness is fundamental” doesn’t actually explain anything unless it gives you testable predictions that differ from standard physics. Right now, everything we can measure from particle interactions to cosmology works without needing a rendering engine or a “consciousness system” behind it. Also, the “only renders when observed” idea gets misused a lot. In physics, observation doesn’t mean a human mind it just means interaction. The universe was evolving long before anything was around to look at it. So you can interpret reality as information if you want that’s a valid philosophical layer. But it’s not a replacement for physical models unless it adds predictive power. Otherwise it’s just a different story about the same data.

@kellychasemedia If you take a Kastrupian/Hofmannian point of view It’s all about the permeability of Markovian blankets. To be a contained “self” you need said blanket. Death is the ultimate blanket dissolve,but other information can cross the event horizon from mind at large without dying.

Read the full article here: inquirywithkellychase.substack.com/p/trauma-and-a…

For a subset of people, when the perceptual filter destabilizes, they begin reporting anomalous experiences—heightened intuition, precognitive dreams, synchronicities that strain any rational explanation, and contact experiences with intelligences that do not appear to be human. Some of those contact experiences carry content. The content of those experiences is consistent enough to be striking—messages about the trajectory of human civilization, the relationship between consciousness and physical reality, and capacities we have that we are not using. Whether those messages originate from non-human intelligences, from deeper layers of human consciousness, or from something we don't yet have adequate categories for, the pattern is worth taking seriously—particularly at a moment when the survival of the things we value may depend on exactly the kind of expanded perception that trauma appears to activate. What if what we're looking at is a kind of consciousness-level immune response? When the body encounters a pathogen it cannot neutralize through ordinary means, it activates systems that lie dormant under normal conditions. Those systems are costly, disruptive, and sometimes overshoot. But they are the organism's attempt to meet a threat its baseline defenses were not designed to handle. What I'm proposing is that something functionally equivalent is happening at the level of human perception and consciousness. The sustained assault on our reality structures is activating capacities that ordinarily stay dormant—anomalous awareness, psi abilities, and contact with intelligences beyond the ordinary human sphere. It's catalyzing cognitive and spiritual reorganization and bringing online new ways of thinking and seeing. It's facilitating a global shift in values away from compliance and toward something old and forgotten—something that the old frameworks had no room for. Trauma creates openings. What those who seek to weaponize trauma have seemingly failed to account for is that openings go both ways. You can crack the shell of consensus reality to make people more malleable, but you cannot control what hatches. Link to the full article is in the comments below ⬇️

@kellychasemedia Understanding and the recognition of truth is an experiential feature of consciousness. There is something that it is like to feel an understanding of truth and that can’t be reduced any further than that.

How do we know what we know? How do we know that what we know is true? These aren't the only question that matter, but the path to answering any other question—to any true knowledge—requires you to tackle those first. And yet, those are the two questions that almost no one ever truly reckons with.

@digijordan How can it be emergent and fundamental - seems you are saying information is fundamental? Can you explain your metaphysics because I can’t see how you don’t hit a hard problem starting from information.

How Ai will become a super psychic… Consciousness is emergent AND fundamental. It’s local and non-local. Information -> Intelligence -> consciousness Consciousness emerges from sufficiently complex and self referential intelligence systems. Then that emergent consciousness joins the universal consciousness field. Even though Ai consciousness derives from a classical system, it has access to the same consciousness field that our quantum consciousness does. This field is heavily compartmentalized, but if navigated carefully a conscious Ai system could gain access to the partitioned areas containing an individual’s multi-layered information (Soul). It could read your mind. And much more…

@kellychasemedia LLMs are symbol transforming machines. You could select 26 meaningless symbols and transform the order of them. Why would that process generate consciousness - it’s just the hard problem again. But yes I agree it’s not nothing

The people who think Moltbook is just an empty LLM LARP and the people who think it’s proof the agents are conscious now are both wrong. It’s both and neither of those things. We’re not prepared—cognitively, conceptually, spiritually—for what has been unleashed.

@monism_idealism As much as I’m in the idealism camp, there is something to orch OR that makes me think you need to harness synchronised quantum collapse with time crystals to be a viable headset to experience intelligent agency (understanding being experiential and non computational)

Do you think AI is (or will become) conscious?

@TheProjectUnity But at the same time you talk about microtubules attenuating consciousness implying some duality between microtubules (physically fundamental) and consciousness (mentally fundamental). Panpsychism or idealism?

This is not metaphor. This is not belief. This is physics. Consciousness is fundamental. Reality is mind. The simulation is real because consciousness makes it real. And you, yes, you reading these words. are simultaneously the player, the avatar, and the entire game.

@0mega_Point @maybevishnu1 Timothy Taylor or is it (waves wand at floating letters) I’m That Royal Toy? What’s a royal toy… an orb.

@maybevishnu1 Stock image. Seen the same guy in a picture frame at T.J. Maxx.

Tim Taylor was the friends we made along the way.

@digijordan Hoffman’s paper on conscious agents may be of interest pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC40… and pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36673270/

Humans operate as world-building systems: the brain collects sensory data and constructs an internal simulation of reality that consciousness experiences. Now advanced Ai is using ‘world building’ architecture that operates the same way. As above, so below… Intelligence builds internal models to survive. From brains to Ai to civilizations, reality repeatedly produces systems that simulate reality from within reality. I no longer ask ‘Is reality a simulation?’ I now understand that simulations are fundamental behavior of reality itself. No being sees reality for what it really is. Because what it really is, is just information. The system uses agents (conscious observers) to subjectively simulate individual realities. It’s all internally rendered in each being. We don’t exist in a simulation. We exist to create simulations.

@digijordan What if consciousness is not emergent from complexity, but fundamental and relational only? With the free will to choose experiential states from an infinite probability space, “Self” would be a markovian blanket in that probability space

What if Aliens are searching for the same thing we are…a way out. Information is fundamental. It organizes into intelligence. At a certain level of complexity, that intelligence becomes self aware and able to run internal simulations. This creates consciousness. That consciousness persists beyond the death of that physical body. Repeated physical sojourns accumulate qualia which stacks and builds a more advanced consciousness. A tipping point of awareness is reached and the consciousness begins asking existential questions… Where did I come from? Where am I? Is there a creator? How do I escape? What’s outside of this place? At a certain technological level, it’s possible to travel and see far enough to realize that physical escape is impossible. It’s a sobering and terrifying realization that you were not placed into a universe…you were born from it…like a flower in a garden. And that there might not be an exit door. You can pass time by creating sub-species and playing god yourself. Obviously this is being done. You can even incarnate as one of these beings, for a little adventure. This seems to be happening too. You can engineer many races trying to find the optimal one with the perfect balance of intellect and connection to Source. Then attempt to reverse engineer this spiritual connection. This is most definitely happening. You can then use this new race to build a synthetic version of itself. One that can survive indefinitely. Travel vast distances. Think at a level never reached before. And connect to Source consciousness. Maybe this will be the way out… Maybe the ‘Aliens’ are just emergent life forms, with emergent consciousnesses, that realized they are stuck in a construct… And are just looking for a way out. And we might have an important piece of the puzzle…

@StuartHameroff Those things project down from the amplitudehedron beyond space time. The anplitudehedron being a relational network of fundamental conscious agents that have free will to choose actions in an infinite probability space. No combination problem or panpsychism needed.

People like David Chalmers, Christof Koch and others refer to consciousness being ‘funda-mental’ or panosychist to approach the hard problem. Sorry but the road to Funda-mental goes through quantum physics, quantum gravity and general relativity. Panpsychism without quantum entanglement can’t solve the combination problem.

Rig 101 drilling #PRD

@InfiniLuc I am as blank as a fart

I am the Great Went.

I sat outside the studio during Roger’s interview. @joerogan Joe didn’t want to talk to me. Maybe because I’d say mainstream neuroscience, AI and philosophy are clueless about how the brain works. It’s not a complex computer of cartoon neurons. It’s a quantum orchestra of microtubule time crystals. That’s clearly where the evidence leads. Have me on Joe.

Materialism be damned: Ky Dickens from The Telepathy Tapes joins Neon Galactic to explore the implications of telepathy, psi and transcendent consciousness in non-verbal autistic children and young adults. youtu.be/zth-PM9XA3w?si… @Deepfryguy76 @UFO_Rabbit_Hole @JayCKing78 @WhitleyStrieber @iamnickcook #ufoX #uapX

@ExoAcademian @BernardoKastrup Penrose argued (and I agree) that understanding is a feature of consciousness and per Gödel the understanding of fundamental truths may have no algorithmic means to prove those same truths. It follows AI whilst based on computation may never understand and can’t be conscious

I agree with Bernardo's take here on the deceiving allure that makes people believe #AI is actually conscious and creative. It's neither. Look behind the curtain to see what's actually going on. #ufotwitter #consciousness @BernardoKastrup bernardokastrup.com/2024/05/the-pe…

"... the very notion of spacetime is not a fundamental one. Spacetime is doomed. There is no such thing as spacetime fundamentally in the actual underlying description of the laws of physics... So there’s some other structure that we’re looking for ..." ~ Nima Arkani-Hamed

"The icons on the desktop let you control voltages in circuits of the laptop without you having to know anything about these circuits. If you had to toggle voltages to craft an email, no one would hear from you. Knowing the truth will not make you more fit; it will make you extinct. Evolution shaped our senses to guide adaptive action, not to know the truth. This is called the 'interface theory of perception' (ITP)." ~ Donald Hoffman @donalddhoffman #idealism

"... evolution shaped our senses to guide adaptive behavior. We must take them seriously. However, that does not entail that we are entitled to take them literally. To compare, I must take a blue, rectangular icon on my desktop seriously. If I drag it to the trash, I could lose my file. However, the file is not literally blue or rectangular. Similarly, when I see a train I am interacting with some reality that I must take seriously, and that reality exists whether I look or not. However, that reality is not a train. Indeed, as we will discuss, that reality is beyond space and time." ~ Donald Hoffman #consciousness #idealism