Rowdy

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Rowdy

Rowdy

@Rowd_19

Katılım Ocak 2015
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Rowdy
Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@look4landmesser @Alonso_GD “We lost a war” Yeah, like 🇵🇸 . “They were not Greek only” like 🇵🇸. The Turks invaded Anatolia & over time overtook the native population. Millions of Greeks were killed & expelled. You didn’t engage in terrorism since then with the aim of getting back what was once yours.
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Πρίγκιpass - Waterμέλλων 🍉🇵🇸✌️
Πρίγκιpass - Waterμέλλων 🍉🇵🇸✌️@look4landmesser·
@Rowd_19 @Alonso_GD You clearly don't know shit about modern Greek history. We didn't "accept" anything. We lost a war. And no, the lands were not ours. They were *contested* by Greece as parts of the crumbling Ottoman empire. These areas were not Greek-only. We were roughly 1/3 of the population.
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Alonso Gurmendi
Alonso Gurmendi@Alonso_GD·
You take land and expel its inhabitants Eventually the children of the displaced people attack you So you take the land they are in and expel them again So their grandchildren attack So you take that and expel them too This is defined as “a democracy attacked by terrorists”
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@MarcoFoster_ @KyleKulinski Houthis fired on civilian ships, ran a slave economy, and their actions while not really hurting 🇮🇱 made starvation worse in Sudan. You were fine with this. STFU.
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Marco Foster@MarcoFoster_·
Kyle Kulinski: “We’re the terrorists. Benjamin Netanyahu is a terrorist. Donald J. Trump is a terrorist. When we double tapped an elementary school full of 7 to 12-year-old girls, that was terrorism. We’re the terrorists. I don’t give a fuck that you have a finely pressed uniform. That is terrorism. That is ISIS shit. That is Al-Qaeda shit”
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@look4landmesser @Alonso_GD “when we were occupied by Nazis”. The Germans didn’t settle Greece. The Turks took your lands and you’ve accepted it instead of demanding Smyrna and Constantinople back
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Πρίγκιpass - Waterμέλλων 🍉🇵🇸✌️
Πρίγκιpass - Waterμέλλων 🍉🇵🇸✌️@look4landmesser·
@Rowd_19 @Alonso_GD 🤦‍♂️ Israelis had to coexist with Palestinians cause they couldn't expel them all at once however much they'd love to. Coexistence is what breeds resistance. In Asia Minor coexistence was no longer an option. When we were occupied by Nazis we resisted strongly, including bombs
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@look4landmesser @Alonso_GD “because they couldn’t expel them all at once” considering Palestinian population growth you should consider that 🇮🇱 could’ve but chose not to do to Palestinians what 🇹🇷 did to Greeks. But had Israel done so - its security would be as firm as a Turk in Izmir. That’s the lesson?
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@look4landmesser @Alonso_GD I claimed that after the Turks genocided y’all and took your ancestral lands you accepted it, begrudgingly or otherwise, and didn’t try to take back Smyrna by lobbing rockets at it or abducting Turkish toddlers. I don’t know if it’s noble but it’s certainly pragmatic
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Πρίγκιpass - Waterμέλλων 🍉🇵🇸✌️
Πρίγκιpass - Waterμέλλων 🍉🇵🇸✌️@look4landmesser·
@Rowd_19 @Alonso_GD Sounds like you don't understand what you read. You claimed that we were noble enough to accept the clobering of the Turks and our displacement without resistance. That's total bs. We were defenseless, at imminent danger of extinction and had to leave. Survival is not nobility
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@look4landmesser @Alonso_GD “We were heavily defeated in Asia Minor” So the Turks cemented their territory & existence by absolutely clobbering their competition to the point that resistance was futile. Sounds like an argument a rightwing Zionist would make.
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Πρίγκιpass - Waterμέλλων 🍉🇵🇸✌️
Πρίγκιpass - Waterμέλλων 🍉🇵🇸✌️@look4landmesser·
@Rowd_19 @Alonso_GD You've missed the Greek resistance to the Nazis from 1941 to 1945. Also, you make bullshit comparisons. We were heavily defeated in Asia Minor. More than 1 million defenseless ppl were immediately uprooted & transferred to Greece to escape peril, there was no way to stay & fight
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@GoodVibePolitik Phew, thank goodness these bloodthirsty school shooters didn’t get body armor!
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James🔻@GoodVibePolitik·
The iron dome is the equivalent of giving a school shooter body armor so that they are safer as they carry out their slaughter. It emboldens the colony by providing it the means to insulate itself from the consequences of its own violent actions. It is offensive in effect.
Guy Benson@guypbenson

Iron Dome (purely defensive) saves so many innocent lives and AOC is now apparently committed to defunding it. Wrong types of lives that system is saving, it seems.

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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@CoreyWriting I am conflicted. On the one hand, more pushback to an increasingly rightwing, unhinged Israel may be a good thing - for Israel! Stop the crazy train before it crashes. But to your point, I’m not sure intelligent, measured opposition to Israel is what we’re going to get
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@ryangrim Thr story is that the terrorist was wearing an explosive belt, he was caught but they couldn't neutralize the explosive belt because he resisted. He was interviewed about it here: youtu.be/NOHH__72p_0?si… word כפות is being translated as “handcuffed” here but not nec. correct
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Ryan Grim
Ryan Grim@ryangrim·
If this man was Palestinian, Israeli law would mandate he be hanged within 90 days. Instead, he writes Israeli laws.
B.M.@ireallyhateyou

"Unlike you, I was out in the field. I gave an order to shoot a terrorist, with hands cuffed behind his back, in the head." Yesterday at the Knesset, Mickey Levy, a member of so-called "centrist" party Yesh Atid, tried to outflank Jewish Power members from the right, by describing how he ordered the cold-blooded murder of a handcuffed Palestinian, while serving as the Jerusalem District Commander of the Israeli Police during the Al-Aqsa Intifada. This event happened in 2002. Despite being a confessed murdered, Levy continued his career, became the Israeli Police attaché in the US, and later a Member of Knesset, Chairman of the State Audit Committee, Speaker of the Knesset, and Deputy Minister of Finance. Before serving as the Jerusalem District Police Commander, Levy also served as commander of the Judea and Samaria District. In the same year he ordered the murder of a handcuffed Palestinian, Levy received the "Knight for Quality Government" award from the Movement for Quality Government in Israel and the Channel 2 "Person of the Year" award.

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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@nemiphil @ryangrim No. He called it a fascist law promoted by a fascist party and a “thug minister”. So clearly he opposes it.
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nemiphil@nemiphil·
@ryangrim Ok but he's saying the new law is a bad move. He doesn't support it.
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@TVietor08 @KyleKulinski This could’ve been avoided it UNSCR 1701 had been enforced at any point in the past 20 yrs. Why wasn’t it?
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Tommy Vietor
Tommy Vietor@TVietor08·
So an illegal invasion and occupation of another country. Not a "buffer zone" or "security zone" or "incursion" or any other euphemism. It's invading a country, killing people, and taking their territory.
Ariel Oseran أريئل أوسيران@ariel_oseran

Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz announced the IDF will maintain security control over the entire area south of the Litani River in southern Lebanon, including demolishing all homes near the border, to remove “once and for all” the Hezbollah threat to northern Israel. "At the end of the operation, the IDF will be positioned in a security area inside Lebanon - in a defensive line against anti-tank missiles - and will have security control over the entire area up to the Litani River, including the remaining bridges,” Katz said. “The return of over 600,000 residents of the area south of the Litani River will be completely prohibited until the safety and security of residents of the north is ensured, similar to the model of Rafah and Beit Hanoun in the Gaza Strip. We will eliminate Radwan's forces that have infiltrated the area and destroy all weapons located there.*

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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@Gothtos @aradboaz overly vague? Seems not vague at all if you find evidence that someone was murdered because of their ethnicity. But settlers are fine with violence against people for being Arabs and their caucus in Knesset removed it accordingly
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Gothbug
Gothbug@Gothtos·
@Rowd_19 @aradboaz It was taken out because it was overly vague and likely unconstitutional. The law targets terrorist acts with a motive to negate Israel’s existence and that’s fairly reasonable and clear. Those who don’t commit terrorist acts with this aim will be fine.
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Boaz Arad 博雅
Boaz Arad 博雅@aradboaz·
This “progressive” left wing grifter is either knowingly peddling lies or is a complete and utter moron. Most likely both.
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@Gothtos @aradboaz Why was nationalistic violence taken out if not for the concern by the bills authors that too many Jews might be roped in?
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Gothbug
Gothbug@Gothtos·
@Rowd_19 @aradboaz Bills go through all sorts of linguistic changes and edits to withstand judicial review. The wording of the bill was changed after groups like Adalah voiced concern that it would result in discriminatory outcomes and so it was. What’s the issue?
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@Gothtos @aradboaz So why not just amend the law to remove the need for unanimity? Why did the initial bill have reference to nationalistic violence but then it was removed?
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Gothbug
Gothbug@Gothtos·
@Rowd_19 @aradboaz It’s evident that lowering the bar by removing a unanimous 3/3 decision and replacing it with a simple majority and also removing the possibility of an appeal or commutation through this law is intended to permanently dispatch terrorists instead of giving them life.
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@Gothtos @aradboaz “death penalty has always been on the books, just not implemented” So what was the need for this law when there was already one on the books that just needed to be enforced?
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Gothbug@Gothtos·
@Rowd_19 @aradboaz I mean… elimination of Hamas is already Israeli policy. The death penalty has always been on the books, just not implemented. When Israel goes a week without an attack they should revist it. When will that be?
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@Gothtos @aradboaz The courts that the same authors of this bill believe are “leftists” and want to neuter? Sounds like it would’ve been much easier to draft a bill that targeted Hamas and their ilk but that’s not what the authors went for
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Gothbug
Gothbug@Gothtos·
@Rowd_19 @aradboaz The intent is determined through the courts by a series of criteria. Presence of manifestos, communications, etc. that specify the actor’s goal is the elimination of Israel. Targeting of high ranking officials opposed to random violence. Organizational doctrine and affiliation.
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@Gothtos @aradboaz Jihadists like being “martyrs”. One could reduce desirability of taking hostages by simply refusing to concede to swaps or applying DP to members of Hamas or PIJ. So why not just write THAT law?
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Gothbug@Gothtos·
@Rowd_19 @aradboaz The benefit is that carrying out acts of terror against Israel will be punishable by death and thus disincentivized and reduce the desirability of abducting civilians in hopes of a ransom/swap.
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Rowdy@Rowd_19·
@Gothtos @aradboaz and how exactly is “intent to end the existence” shown? I think Kahanists intend to end its existence and replace it with a Halachic state. But we all know in practice it will always be presumed a Jew doesn’t act to end Israel
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Gothbug
Gothbug@Gothtos·
@Rowd_19 @aradboaz No. Terrorism is robustly defined in Israel’s 2016 counter terrorism law. You not knowing what it entails is not an excuse to invent your own set of facts. The bar that triggers the death penalty now is that it must include the intent to “end the existence of the State of IL.”
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