samir kaji

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samir kaji

samir kaji

@Samirkaji

CEO of Allocate (https://t.co/tCOIHOo5Xl) Host of the Venture Unlocked podcast, https://t.co/J3J8C4Ims6. My opinions are mine, and not related to Allocate.

Menlo Park, CA Katılım Nisan 2009
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samir kaji@Samirkaji·
I talk to thousands of LPs every year. Here's what I'm seeing right now when it comes to how they're approaching VC. 1) Late-stage co-investments have never been hotter. The top 5-7 names have effectively *unlimited* demand. And that supply/demand imbalance has created three real issues: First, the question of *true* access. Many of the SPVs floating around for these companies are not sanctioned by these companies. Buyer beware. These companies are tight on their cap tables, and access can be gated beyond just capacity. The fee creep is getting egregious. Someone shared with me recently that for a top AI lab, a group was charging 15% upfront, 20% carry, and 30% over a 2X. At those economics, you can take what would be a generational company but a bad investment. Fees are the silent killer of returns in late-stage co-invest, and this risk is now being focused on the logo, but ignoring the fee effects. Additionally, for those who aren't getting access to the top companies must go a tier (or two) below. Very dangerous in a high-intensity / valuation market for AI. As I've mentioned, there will be a lot of expensive mistakes made as we figure out what winners will look like in the future. 2) Capital is flowing to large, established brands. This is the clearest trend right now. LPs are concentrating on the top multi-stage and Series A firms. The logic is straightforward: these are easier to underwrite, and given how extreme the power law has become, investors want exposure to the trophy assets soon after investing. If you're a top 10-20 brand, you're oversubscribed, sometimes in multiples. If you're not, the fundraising environment is a different world. 3) Emerging and emerged managers are in the toughest spot, with a notable exception. Spinouts from top firms and operators with strong brands are moving fast and generally very oversubscribed. For everyone else, the bar has never been higher. I think this is actually where the opportunity is for LPs If they have the time/expertise to do so. The issue isn't that LPs don't know this. Most do. The problem is twofold: the time and difficulty of sourcing and diligencing emerging managers is real, and the hangover from 2019-2021 is still very present. A lot of people tried VC during that era who probably shouldn't have, and the failure rate on those Fund 1s has made the entire segment harder to navigate. Matching supply and demand here has become nearly impossible. Supply (Managers) far exceeds demand due to the issues noted.
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aileenlee@aileenlee·
At the #allocatebeyondsummit watching @Samirkaji in convo with @mamoonha. Giant kudos to Mamoon, @ilyaf & team @kleinerperkins for how they have stewarded the mantle of a a legendary instution so successfully. Generational transition is not easy, and Mamoon has led with brilliance and humility. Big big respect and appreciation 🙏
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samir kaji@Samirkaji·
I lost my mother in 2010 to pulmonary fibrosis and miss her every day. Today is a special. Moms are so special and never take them for granted. Happy Mother's Day, everyone!
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samir kaji@Samirkaji·
There may be 1T+ of demand for Anthropic for this (potential) round. Seeing so much broker activity claiming to have access (I've gotten at least 30 emails this week). Buyer beware. Companies like this are very tight on their cap table, as they should be, and many of these groups are very risky to try to get access. But I have never seen a private company stop the entire world the way Anthropic does when there are reports of a potential round.
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Nichole Wischoff@NWischoff·
Fika hosts the only big GP/LP events worth attending. Huge respect to @TXZhuo and his team for putting in the work to build community.
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Bill Tai@KiteVC·
Fun fact. @Zoom ($ZM ) invested $51M into @AnthropicAI in 2023. At the last round of $380B it’s around a 78x. At current aftermarket of $1T for @AnthropicAI it around 223x or an $11B+ holding. At $ZM market cap of $26B; with ~$9B cash and ~$11B of liquid (and rising) holding of solana:Pren1FvFX6J3E4kXhJuCiAD5aDmGEb7qJRncwA8Lkhw Net of cash and holdings market cap is around $5-$6B. $ZM is roughly a $5B revenue company w ~$1.7B FCF 1-1.1x sales (net of cash and holding) ~3X net cash flow. I need to double check these numbers as they seem totally illogical. Maybe I made a mistake!
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samir kaji@Samirkaji·
Fundamental Truths in VC today (as I see them) 1/ The barbell between large and small firms is as wide as it's ever been. These are genuinely two distinct asset classes now, and LPs should treat them that way. 2/There is no portfolio construction model, whether concentrated or diversified, that rescues a bad portfolio. Construction can extend the right tail and reduce left tail risk, but GPs still have to be in great companies. What the right model looks like depends entirely on where you operate (seed vs. early vs. growth) and what your strengths are (sourcing, access, expertise). 3/Some SPV operators raising capital into the top 5 consensus growth stage names will make more in fees over the next five years than most smaller seed GPs will make in fees/ carry. I ran into someone who has deployed ~$1B at 5% one-time fees and 15% carry -- In the last 12 months. 4/ The valuation gap between AI and non-AI companies is widening fast, and it's most visible at Series C, when category winners start to emerge, and large capital concentrates quickly. 5/From 2022 to 2024, growth VC was ignored. That was a mistake. Prices had come way down, and AI was in its early innings. Now the LP pendulum has swung entirely to growth, but concentrated into consensus names. Given how much these companies can raise, it's not unusual to see a large fund with only 5 to 8 positions. 6/The mid to large end of VC is increasingly taking cues from PE: secondaries, multi-product platforms including PE and credit, and heavy reliance on the wealth channel. The lines are officially blurred. 7/There is a lot of gamesmanship in ARR reporting. Founders are trained to show growth to maintain expectations and valuations. This is getting dangerous and will not end well for many of these companies. 8/No one actually knows how the next few years play out with AI. The honest truth: foundation model companies still need to find a path to sustainable margin, application layer companies are watching moats erode faster than they can build them, and the infrastructure buildout assumes demand that is still largely theoretical. The people who sound most certain are usually the most invested in a particular outcome being true. 9/Investing at $50M to $100M pre-money at seed only works mathematically if you assume you're getting into companies that exit at $10B or more. That's not impossible, but it's not easier just because everything feels hot. We saw exactly this loop play out in 2021. LPs should be asking harder questions about whether the seed funds they're backing are optimized for outcomes (3x or higher).
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Scott@scott___ttocs·
@Samirkaji Hear hear. Too much money flowing to company #14 in every category. How many of these consensus growth portfolios with just 5-8 names actually deliver the right tail Samir mentions?
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Sheel Mohnot@pitdesi·
Private market prices: OpenAI: $721B, down 12% YTD Anthropic: $686B, up 84% YTD from @CaplightData
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samir kaji@Samirkaji·
Truth about venture today We are in peak AI fomo. Growth trajectory drowns out legit durability concerns of most AI companies Family offices playing direct / co invest instead of funds, almost at any cost for top companies. Anthropic is the hottest asset of all time and fees are getting unethical. Vcs know the market is nutty but incentives matter; quick markups, easier raises, and get the right one and the inevitable failures don’t matter (or they do but it takes awhile). One anthropic and you are minted for 10+ years. Even lesser companies can king make someone. This is where irrational becomes rational. Companies growing 2-3x per year largely ignored if a 10x year isn’t clearly coming next. Benchmarks are completely distorted on what’s fundable.\ This is like the internet on steroids. Tech shift is real and it’s inevitable but investing behavior is similar to past cycle - too much, too fast. Winners will be 10-100x bigger but most investors will incinerate tons of capital hoping for the golden goose.
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samir kaji@Samirkaji·
@smi This objectively incorrect. Early stage venture debt is not covenanted debt.
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samir kaji@Samirkaji·
True early stage Venture debt in the classic case doesn’t have financial covenants (and cash sweeps are also rare without a massive reason/legal right). 6 months after funding also doesn’t make sense as bank lenders typically provide when runway is at least 6 months
Jesse Tinsley@JesseTinsley

Bench raised venture debt in June 2024. Bankrupt because of a covenant breach leading to a surprise cash sweep by end of December 2024. We bought Bench for pennies on the dollar of what the actual enterprise value was. So it’s not all bad just depends what side you end up on 🙃

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samir kaji@Samirkaji·
@smi That's not true venture debt. You're thinking working capital financing from banks (ARR, etc.). Early stage venture debt does not have financial covenants. Maybe milestones. I did it for nearly 20 years.
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samir kaji@Samirkaji·
@Kayodeodeleye That must be a shit non bank lender and that means its not venture debt.
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Kayode@Kayodeodeleye·
@Samirkaji We’re saying the same thing in that NBC which did the refinancing isn’t a traditional venture debt provider.
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samir kaji@Samirkaji·
@Kayodeodeleye Lenders with covenant doing a distressed deal? That’s not how traditional ventured debt lenders operate. Who was the lender?
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Kayode@Kayodeodeleye·
@Samirkaji Company was already in trouble in June of that year. New lender took out former lender from 2021. So not surprising that terms were stricter than classi venture debt as this was semi distressed situation in June
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samir kaji@Samirkaji·
@AnneliesGamble @paulg Agreed. Venture debt is overused and misclassified as insurance (it’s not), but his absolute take here is also incorrect.
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Annelies Gamble@AnneliesGamble·
@paulg This advice really depends on the business model. Maybe true for software only startups. But we raised venture debt for my last company and it was wildly helpful (we were manufacturing parts).
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samir kaji@Samirkaji·
Hard Anti-AI views are too myopic. Humanity has repeatedly gone through massive technological shifts (I.e. agriculture, assembly lines, internet, etc.). Specific jobs disappear, and real ST pain, but new roles emerge (I.e. agr is ~2% of job vs now vs 50% in 1800's).
Lorena Gonzalez Fletcher@LorenaSGonzalez

So…@GarryTan wants to talk shit about me WHILE he has me blocked. I’m all for blocking folks you don’t want to interact with…shit talking me and blocking me…. Hmmm, that takes extra little man energy.

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